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Old May 10th 2016, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Oh ffs can you two just get a room and **** it out of your systems please?
You sound peed of for some reason. Simplest thing to do would be to of course, would be to entertain yourself by browsing posts that meet your requirements and ignore those that don't.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Your inability to get the name right, is perhaps suggestive of other ill founded conclusions.


Hardly a very significant contributor to BE over recent years, but let that pass. You may well just have noted the far more dominant contributors, day in and day out, spewing their ideological agendas, but chose to focus on derisive comments towards this poster. More suggestive of you and your preconceived notions than based on any reality.


Why wouldn't I remain in Australia and give reality assessments of the situation on the ground here in Perth. Something obviously you have nothing to contribute with regards to.
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This off topic personal bickering really puts me off posting on this site.
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Originally Posted by Still Game
This off topic personal bickering really puts me off posting on this site.
You and lots of others. Unfortunately this is pretty much where the Australia forum is at these days and has been for some time. You may have found them already, but there are other forums out there which are more niche, have a specific state by state section - you're probably far more likely to get sensible answers about Perth there!
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Fully agree on the tedious nature of this thread. So how's Perth then? Another stat that surfaced recently being the increased number on last year with regards to the closure of small business here. A big jump in figures as more go under. QLD second in line but still a bit behind.


730 Report last night suggested coffee prices are in decline at some cafes. Not around my manor unfortunately, but rather suggestive of the times.
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Fully agree on the tedious nature of this thread. So how's Perth then? Another stat that surfaced recently being the increased number on last year with regards to the closure of small business here. A big jump in figures as more go under. QLD second in line but still a bit behind.


730 Report last night suggested coffee prices are in decline at some cafes. Not around my manor unfortunately, but rather suggestive of the times.
WA first, QLD second.

Yep that would be reliance on mining as the chief industry.

Probably NT 3rd right?
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I shouldn't bother maestro. I don't expect your violin playing being any improvement on your politics.
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WA first, QLD second.

Yep that would be reliance on mining as the chief industry.

Probably NT 3rd right?


Resource melt down. You may well be on to something there. Although the resource states will naturally be most impacted, I doubt any state will escape the loss of revenue.
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Originally Posted by Still Game
This off topic personal bickering really puts me off posting on this site.
Originally Posted by bcworld
You and lots of others. Unfortunately this is pretty much where the Australia forum is at these days and has been for some time. You may have found them already, but there are other forums out there which are more niche, have a specific state by state section - you're probably far more likely to get sensible answers about Perth there!
Precisely why I tend to post in The Lounge and the other countries' forums these days.
SG if you want to discuss Perth then feel free to PM me. I've been here 9 years and I think I have a fairly balanced view of the place. Don't love it but don't hate it either.
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Resource melt down. You may well be on to something there. Although the resource states will naturally be most impacted, I doubt any state will escape the loss of revenue.
Nah we are fine over here thanks
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Any advice on Perth required from the OP feel free to PM me. I far out do in time spent here than the post above bar one. You will get a 'full ' no punches pulled account, the good a d the warts.
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Nah we are fine over here thanks
Not really. It may not be impacting you personally but it is certainly impacting NSW and the rest of Australia. Government tax receipts are down meaning more deficit and more tax on investments. NSW state royalties are down on depressed coal price and mines closing

In my field, design engineering, things are busy in Sydney but rates and salaries remain depressed (in fact, I still earn more here than I could there) - and what this tells us is that supply must be rising. This makes sense as engineers and designers are moving back to the east coast from the west and the ones that remained are staying put. New migrants are choosing Sydney rather than Perth

Economics 101

Make no mistake - the whole of Australia is being affected
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Not really. It may not be impacting you personally but it is certainly impacting NSW and the rest of Australia. Government tax receipts are down meaning more deficit and more tax on investments. NSW state royalties are down on depressed coal price and mines closing

In my field, design engineering, things are busy in Sydney but rates and salaries remain depressed (in fact, I still earn more here than I could there) - and what this tells us is that supply must be rising. This makes sense as engineers and designers are moving back to the east coast from the west and the ones that remained are staying put. New migrants are choosing Sydney rather than Perth

Economics 101

Make no mistake - the whole of Australia is being affected
Engineering salaries based around infrastructure are going great guns in Sydney.

That said, if you don't move companies you probably won't see a rise, but if you do, there's a big shortage of good people and salaries are good.
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Engineering salaries based around infrastructure are going great guns in Sydney.

That said, if you don't move companies you probably won't see a rise, but if you do, there's a big shortage of good people and salaries are good.
Not so in design engineering. In one of the fields that I work in, HV power (infrastructure basically) there is plenty of work in Sydney. Salaries are a joke though and I could still earn more here

In the UK its going gangbusters and rates are rising dramatically

Simple supply and demand equation in both cases - there is no other factor when it comes to the cost of labour. Economics 101
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Not so in design engineering. In one of the fields that I work in, HV power (infrastructure basically) there is plenty of work in Sydney. Salaries are a joke though and I could still earn more here

In the UK its going gangbusters and rates are rising dramatically

Simple supply and demand equation in both cases - there is no other factor when it comes to the cost of labour. Economics 101
What are the rates you are seeing in all 3 locations? On the job boards I'm sort of seeing 60-80 in Syd and 35-45 in London. I know guys in Sydney getting way more than the advertised price through word of mouth and who they know.
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