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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10317818)
What for believe the majority and not you, yer funny you are. :rofl:
obviously not as funny as you then:rofl::rofl: |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10317821)
Oh cut out the sniping guys please.
To the OP - There are thousands of views on here about the similarities and differences between nursing in the two countries; remember that both countries have good and bad hospitals in both countries, and everyone's experience is different. The only way to really know, as I'm sure every migrant nurse will tell you, is to try it. Hopefully he will leave the thread and it can get back on track, cheers to those with the helpful input, so far it sounds almost the same. |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10317839)
Hopefully he will leave the thread and it can get back on track, cheers to those with the helpful input, so far it sounds almost the same.
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Grayling
(Post 10317840)
I will post where I like:)
We have been asked to cut out the sniping, there's a good fellow. :thumbsup: |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10317845)
We have been asked to cut out the sniping, there's a good fellow. :thumbsup:
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10317839)
Hopefully he will leave the thread and it can get back on track, cheers to those with the helpful input, so far it sounds almost the same.
What i asked for was an end to the sniping. |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10317866)
No-one needs to "leave the thread" - Grayling has plenty of valuable experience of the health system in Aus and is welcome to contribute it the same as anyone else.
What i asked for was an end to the sniping. Fair enuf. |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Just to re-post asking for any nurses currently working in Australia and with previous experience working in the UK, is it the same, different, slightly better, slightly worse?
Cheers for any replies. |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10317927)
Just to re-post asking for any nurses currently working in Australia and with previous experience working in the UK, is it the same, different, slightly better, slightly worse?
Cheers for any replies. OMG, I have to agree with greyling.... Its just as hard here and its even more of a slog... Less intellectually stimulating, less "rewarding" for many who are uk trained.... Where we may have complained that there was too much paperwork, we also had "evidence based practice" "nurse led" and "reflective pratice"...."clinical discussions with our medical and allied health professiona colleagues" And "professionalism" we worked with Drs who respected what we did and our contribution and our knowledge.... And we respected theirs.... I have not seen an abundance of any of these in more than one clinical envornment that I have worked in since arriving 5 years ago In WA we dont have HCAs or auxillaries used to the same capacity, so the slog/drudge/shit scraping/basic stuff is all done by the qualified, registerd staff... No I'm not too posh to wash... But really, does it an effective use of skilled nursing hours for an RN to shower/ bedbath 5 patients? Really??? If you of the opinion that RNs are above themselves and need to get back to "real hands on nursing" fine, great, dandy.... Go for it..... As for less work and easier? Jeez H christ on a bike, my life on the wards in the uk was almost sedantary in comparrison to the wards here.... Your wife needs to know, if she has additional nursing qualifications they mostly mean bugger all here... Anything extra she has done, which was the norm in the uk, is pretty useless as australia .. If it aint australian, it aint worth the paper its written on.... career Progression is still very much based on how long an arse has been sat on a seat and who your friends are within an organisation... Long and short...its a very different nursing culture, some fit in fine, others feel like they have stepped back 20 years .... Depends what kind of nurse your wife is as to whether she will a, like it and b, like it for any length of time... Sorry, what was your question again? |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by eddie007
(Post 10318188)
OMG, I have to agree with greyling....
Its just as hard here and its even more of a slog... Less intellectually stimulating, less "rewarding" for many who are uk trained.... Where we may have complained that there was too much paperwork, we also had "evidence based practice" "nurse led" and "reflective pratice"...."clinical discussions with our medical and allied health professiona colleagues" And "professionalism" we worked with Drs who respected what we did and our contribution and our knowledge.... And we respected theirs.... I have not seen an abundance of any of these in more than one clinical envornment that I have worked in since arriving 5 years ago In WA we dont have HCAs or auxillaries used to the same capacity, so the slog/drudge/shit scraping/basic stuff is all done by the qualified, registerd staff... No I'm not too posh to wash... But really, does it an effective use of skilled nursing hours for an RN to shower/ bedbath 5 patients? Really??? If you of the opinion that RNs are above themselves and need to get back to "real hands on nursing" fine, great, dandy.... Go for it..... As for less work and easier? Jeez H christ on a bike, my life on the wards in the uk was almost sedantary in comparrison to the wards here.... Your wife needs to know, if she has additional nursing qualifications they mostly mean bugger all here... Anything extra she has done, which was the norm in the uk, is pretty useless as australia .. If it aint australian, it aint worth the paper its written on.... career Progression is still very much based on how long an arse has been sat on a seat and who your friends are within an organisation... Long and short...its a very different nursing culture, some fit in fine, others feel like they have stepped back 20 years .... Depends what kind of nurse your wife is as to whether she will a, like it and b, like it for any length of time... Sorry, what was your question again? As well as putting the nurse educators back on the floor to cover crisis levels of staff shortages and reallocating Clinical Nurse Specialists to become hands on pt load carrying ward nurses... Any of that sound familiar to anyone who works in the NHS???? |
Re: Nursing in Australia.
Sounds no different then, my wife is on her feet ALL her shift like I have said, she usually eats her tea at home after a Late shift, it is none stop and patient contact is at a bare minimum. I was trying to find out if it was any easier, it appears it isn't, but it can't be any worse as far as my wife is concerned, cheers for the input.
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10318207)
Sounds no different then, my wife is on her feet ALL her shift like I have said, she usually eats her tea at home after a Late shift, it is none stop and patient contact is at a bare minimum. I was trying to find out if it was any easier, it appears it isn't, but it can't be any worse as far as my wife is concerned, cheers for the input.
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by eddie007
(Post 10318214)
You dont get the finer points of what I posted, because you arent in the trade, but she will, when she gets here.....
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pit Bull.
(Post 10318217)
Which hospital in Australia are you working in, clearly one to avoid.
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Re: Nursing in Australia.
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10318226)
I don;t think its unique to where Eddie has worked, I've been reading posts like that, and hearing it from friends, for the last 9 years.....
Its not. In fact its a whole different bucket of shit... And it stinks |
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