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Olibeneli Mar 14th 2005 4:04 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by darkless
I am not usually one to do this, but given that it shocked me so much, I thought it was worth posting. I am certainly not making any indication that I think OZ is worse (or in fact better) than the UK, more that sh1t happens everywhere

http://abc.net.au/news/items/200503/1321978.htm?wa

Dave

There you are then......get attacked in Perth and you only end up in a coma. Get attacked in London and they nearly take your head off but your dead for sure - ergo, Oz is better than UK.

Seriously though - I agree that crap happens all over the world.....I just want to avoid most of it.

sme Mar 14th 2005 4:10 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli
I just want to avoid most of it.

Me too :) Big jessie :D

darkless Mar 14th 2005 4:12 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli
There you are then......get attacked in Perth and you only end up in a coma. Get attacked in London and they nearly take your head off but your dead for sure - ergo, Oz is better than UK.

Seriously though - I agree that crap happens all over the world.....I just want to avoid most of it.

I suspect that it simpy isn't possible to avoid this in most 'developed' countires. I think it is all about what you are used to. In the UK I lived in a fairly quiet commuter town in Essex - lots and lots of antisocial behaviour problems (from teenagers etc), but rarely much more than that.

Here in Perth you hear about gun crimes, meat cleaver attacks etc.

What you have to realise is the difference in town size/population etc etc.

Personally I think it depends on your previous situation - I hear plenty of cars race along the main road near us (doing more like 120 in a 70 zone), but as yet I havent uttered the phrase 'bloody hoons' - although no doubt I will do in the future ;-)

Dave

Stormz Mar 14th 2005 4:14 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by darkless
I am not usually one to do this, but given that it shocked me so much, I thought it was worth posting. I am certainly not making any indication that I think OZ is worse (or in fact better) than the UK, more that sh1t happens everywhere

http://abc.net.au/news/items/200503/1321978.htm?wa

Dave

I`ll see that, and I`ll raise you...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005120915,00.html

darkless Mar 14th 2005 4:23 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Stormz
I`ll see that, and I`ll raise you...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005120915,00.html

humm :confused: first sun and page 3 fix since Jan :confused: how i miss home :rolleyes:

Stormz Mar 14th 2005 4:31 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 
www.newsnow.co.uk is the best news resource for the world

Pollyana Mar 14th 2005 7:57 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli

Anything like this go on in Brisbane ?. I know there are gangs....but blimey.

In Brisbane?? No chance. Didn't anyone tell you theres no crime in Australia? :p

(Polly places rose tints firmly on nose :D )

Siren & Brian Mar 14th 2005 8:38 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 
[QUOTE=Olibeneli][COLOR=Navy]Man dies after being 'beheaded'
QUOTE]



Yeah I reckon the man would die in Brisbane if he was beheaded.

MrsDagboy Mar 14th 2005 8:52 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli

Seriously though - I agree that crap happens all over the world.....I just want to avoid most of it.


In that case, after reading some of the stuff on here in the last few weeks, you'd best avoid Perth then! :eek: :scared:

tonyk38 Mar 14th 2005 11:54 pm

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli
Are you sure.......can you provide examples of serial killers that are sane ?
I would have thought that it is a requirement to be mad to be a serial killer, but then I could be bonkers myself ;) :D :D

Yes I'm certain.

Most psychopaths (such as one on our ward right now) show no trace of mental illness. No depression, mania, psychosis, nothing. They usually have personality disorders. You could look at it as a legal definition if that helps, or just that 'evil' is evil. Of course you can have a mental illness and a personality disorder, but the two don't necessarily go together.

You asked me for examples......Adolf Hitler is a pretty good example, although he showed evidence of psychosis towards the end of the war, commanding imaginary armies and so on. Harold Shipman is another. Again, he appears to have had a breakdown at the time of his trial, but when assessed by psychiatrists originally, seemed to know exactly what he was doing when he killed all those people.

Personality disorders are weird, fascinating and often very disturbing in the way they present, but they are not all serial killers! In fact, this is a relatively common condition and sadly afflicts many folks who have been abused as children for example. People who self-harm through cutting or eating disorders are commonly lumped in this category.

Disclaimer: The above is a simplification of complex issues and is not meant to offend anyone. Nevertheless, my central tenet remains true. :)

JackTheLad Mar 15th 2005 12:08 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by tonyk38
Yes I'm certain.

Most psychopaths (such as one on our ward right now) show no trace of mental illness. No depression, mania, psychosis, nothing. They usually have personality disorders. You could look at it as a legal definition if that helps, or just that 'evil' is evil. Of course you can have a mental illness and a personality disorder, but the two don't necessarily go together.

You asked me for examples......Adolf Hitler is a pretty good example, although he showed evidence of psychosis towards the end of the war, commanding imaginary armies and so on. Harold Shipman is another. Again, he appears to have had a breakdown at the time of his trial, but when assessed by psychiatrists originally, seemed to know exactly what he was doing when he killed all those people.

Personality disorders are weird, fascinating and often very disturbing in the way they present, but they are not all serial killers! In fact, this is a relatively common condition and sadly afflicts many folks who have been abused as children for example. People who self-harm through cutting or eating disorders are commonly lumped in this category.

Disclaimer: The above is a simplification of complex issues and is not meant to offend anyone. Nevertheless, my central tenet remains true. :)

While I bow to your superior knowledge on Mental illness, can I just say: Adolf was drugged up to the eyeballs in his last few years and so was at the complete mercy of his doctors. Especially after the assasination attempt.

I'm not defending him, just think he was messed up from the start, and being given all the painkillers, morphine, speed, and god knows what, made him irrational at the end.

Cheers,
JTL

cadman Mar 15th 2005 12:15 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 
It should be noted that the guy allegedly shouted "you've had this coming for 20 years" before he cut off the other bloke's head so clearly knew his victim.

In true classic style a Police spokeperson said they believed the crime was not a random attack! Duh! :rolleyes:

Cadman

sme Mar 15th 2005 12:23 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by cadman
It should be noted that the guy allegedly shouted "you've had this coming for 20 years" before he cut off the other bloke's head so clearly knew his victim.

In true classic style a Police spokeperson said they believed the crime was not a random attack! Duh! :rolleyes:

Cadman


......and also should be noted that they (the police) don't think there is a past history of mental illness !

Olibeneli Mar 15th 2005 12:42 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by tonyk38
Yes I'm certain.

Most psychopaths (such as one on our ward right now) show no trace of mental illness. No depression, mania, psychosis, nothing. They usually have personality disorders. You could look at it as a legal definition if that helps, or just that 'evil' is evil. Of course you can have a mental illness and a personality disorder, but the two don't necessarily go together.

You asked me for examples......Adolf Hitler is a pretty good example, although he showed evidence of psychosis towards the end of the war, commanding imaginary armies and so on. Harold Shipman is another. Again, he appears to have had a breakdown at the time of his trial, but when assessed by psychiatrists originally, seemed to know exactly what he was doing when he killed all those people.

Personality disorders are weird, fascinating and often very disturbing in the way they present, but they are not all serial killers! In fact, this is a relatively common condition and sadly afflicts many folks who have been abused as children for example. People who self-harm through cutting or eating disorders are commonly lumped in this category.

Disclaimer: The above is a simplification of complex issues and is not meant to offend anyone. Nevertheless, my central tenet remains true. :)

Thank you for the above - you have educated me.....I could ask now how we define someone as being mad, but does it take one to know one ?? :D :D

(Sorry.....couldn't resist)

jugsy Mar 15th 2005 3:27 am

Re: Nice !.........Does this happen in Brisbane?
 

Originally Posted by Olibeneli
Thank you for the above - you have educated me.....I could ask now how we define someone as being mad, but does it take one to know one ?? :D :D

(Sorry.....couldn't resist)

Apparently so yes. I am a psych nurse and one of my general nurse friends told me, in all seriousness, that she had heard the majority of mental health nurses were mad themselves :scared:
Well you know what they say - you don't have to be mad to work here but it helps :D


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