squeezzii

it seems there is a new pope chaps... congrats to all ye catholics (if thats the right thing to say-no offence meant)

Steve2438

Strange.......

If the pope is the same as god...but on earth...how come they found another in a week...does that mean there are lots of gods waiting in the wings

fraser

Strange that millions of people will hang on to every word of a man voted in by 115 old fogeys

chaval

who says he is same as god..but on earth ??...

Steve2438

The Pope is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the successor to Peter, first amongst the disciples of Jesus. The Pope is consider infalliable. He is the word and power of God on Earth...

but are you trying to tell me he is God

fraser

Was he not a former hitler youth.

chaval

I wasnt suggesting anything....probably not best to kick off a big debate regarding religion here....but if we did im sure someone might bring up a confilct of issues argument vis a vis the historical corruption of the Catholic Church whilst doing Gods work on earth ??

cheers

Steve2438

To true better not go around up setting the catholic's had we...but the there is this...

WHO DOES THE POPE CLAIM TO BE?

The following is a brief outline of some of the claims of the Pope. These are facts which should be studied and their implications thought through very carefully indeed. There is no misrepresentation - Rome speaks for herself.

1) "We the Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, prostrate at the feet of your Holiness, humbly offer you our warmest congratulations on the occasion of the Golden Jubilee of your ordination to the priesthood… our thoughts go back to that great event fifty years ago by which your Holiness was taken from amongst men and appointed for men in the things that pertain to God, was made a minister of Christ and a dispenser of His mysteries, received power over the real and mystical body of our Saviour and became a mediator between God and man - another Christ." Address to Pope Pius Xll in 1949:-

Note: Although we are including these offending words ("a mediator between God and men - another Christ") in relation to the Pope…if you read the address carefully, they actually refer to him as a mere priest…and so is believed of every priest including your local "Father" But they do but "set the scene" for the blasphemies to come.

2) Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: "We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God." (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c.3)

3) The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth." (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)

4) Pope Nicholas said of himself: "I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do…wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ." (Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661)

5) The RC New York catechism states: "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth."

6) The title "Lord God the Pope" - these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome. "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)

Father A. Pereira acknowledged: "It is quite certain that Popes have never disapproved or rejected this title "Lord God the Pope" for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome by Gregory XIII."

Writers on Canon Law say: "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." (Barclay Cap. XXVII p. 218 Cities Petrus Bertanous, Pius V)

7) Pope Nicholas I declared that "the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)

8) Speaking the name of the Pope (a rhetorical device) Cardinal Manning said: "I acknowledge no civil superior, I am the subject of no prince, and I claim more than this, I claim to be the supreme judge on earth and director of the consciences of men, I am the last supreme judge of what is right and wrong." (Sermon in the Pro Cathedral, Kensington, Tablet Oct 9, 1864)

Two Scriptures come to mind as I read these various claims of the Pope.

[1] "…Simon…bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that he was some great one…" (Acts 8:9)

[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:2-4)

A WORD TO ROMAN CATHOLIC READERS:

We do not write these things in hatred of you or your co religionists. All we have done is highlight the teaching of your church. The fact that these things are not much talked about today does not render them obsolete or untrue. Rome has her own reasons for keeping them back - but they still constitute the claims which your church makes. If they horrify you as they horrify me…then is it not time that you considered your position? To remain inside is to endorse by your presence these claims. God says: "Come out of her my people that ye be not partaker of her plagues." (Revelation 18:4) We are not asking you to become a Protestant i.e. to merely embrace a party name or to fight a party war. Millions of sincere church going Protestants are damned because they "lack one thing" - a personal, saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Many years ago, Cardinal Manning said: "The Catholic Church is either the masterpiece of Satan or the Kingdom of the Son of God." Cardinal Newman acknowledged: "If not divinely appointed, it is doctrinally the essence of antichrist."

These two high ranking and noted Roman clerics have stripped back the issue to the very wire. Read again and ponder the claims of the various Popes and answer the issue for yourself.

God said:

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another… (Isaiah 42:8)

THE END

chaval

Crikey u type quick

Steve2438

Yeah sorry about that...heheheheh

pompeywill

I'm surprised anyone takes this Pope nonsense seriously after all the paedophile allegations a few years back.
The catholic church was on its knees (pardon the pun)

fraser

1.1 billion sheep who take it very seriously it's the largest and oldest cult on the planet

Steve2438

Me to...... people are easily lead...full of C%%$

chaval

let alone the Albigensian Crusade !!..lol

moneypenny20

Here we go again: "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"