My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Feb 17th 2006, 7:16 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Well there went the thread children.....thanks for sharing your well reasoned and argued name calling.
Sigh.
Sigh.
Feb 17th 2006, 7:26 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Centurion
Well there went the thread children.....thanks for sharing your well reasoned and argued name calling.
Sigh.
Sigh.
(who made you the professor)?
It was JUST another Hum Drum thread about what was so good/ bad about OZ anyway!!!
Fret not!
Feb 17th 2006, 7:31 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Centurion
Well there went the thread children.....thanks for sharing your well reasoned and argued name calling.
Sigh.
Sigh.
Feb 17th 2006, 7:34 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Twin Peaks
Ditto.....someone always has to ruin a good thread.
I rest my case!
(perhaps you should check back to see WHO ruined it)?
Feb 17th 2006, 7:38 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Centurion
Well there went the thread children.....thanks for sharing your well reasoned and argued name calling.
Sigh.
Sigh.
Ditto, are some are so threatened by a open discussion on aus they have revert to crap to end it.
Feb 17th 2006, 7:47 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Wol
I mostly agree but I would like to think we are growing away from the "my country is best" attitudes of the past and looking at ourselves more as inhabitants of a planet.
Gung-ho nationalism can be very destructive in the long term if it means you are blinkered as to the way other countries have forged ahead.
Australia is a great country with huge potential, but just lying around in the sun smoking unusual materials and saying the "lucky" country is best won't make it happen if other countries are actually working harder and doing a lot better.
Gung-ho nationalism can be very destructive in the long term if it means you are blinkered as to the way other countries have forged ahead.
Australia is a great country with huge potential, but just lying around in the sun smoking unusual materials and saying the "lucky" country is best won't make it happen if other countries are actually working harder and doing a lot better.
Brilliant post, too many people in australia are affected by the disadvantage of distance, and a media that focuses only on 'us'. Many peoples view is distorted by this, if aussies had better access to the rest of the world more would be more vocal about what goes on here.
Feb 17th 2006, 7:47 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Oh, here we go..............
The 'usual suspects'!................
Feel free to carry on the thread as if I wasn't here - I'll happily butt out! I'm only here to have fun!
The 'usual suspects'!................
Feel free to carry on the thread as if I wasn't here - I'll happily butt out! I'm only here to have fun!
Feb 17th 2006, 8:06 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by FluffyTheCampfireSlayer
Oh, here we go..............
The 'usual suspects'!................
Feel free to carry on the thread as if I wasn't here - I'll happily butt out! I'm only here to have fun!
The 'usual suspects'!................
Feel free to carry on the thread as if I wasn't here - I'll happily butt out! I'm only here to have fun!
Feb 17th 2006, 8:19 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by FluffyTheCampfireSlayer
A nice, intelligent response there - just what I expected!
Just what kind of
are you?
Just what kind of
are you?
Feb 17th 2006, 8:41 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by leigh&ivan
Sad to hear your experience is not a happy one & I admire you for giving it a chance & trying to stick it out. I was going to ask the same as Alan & Sam, would you not consider another state? Not all states are the same are they??
We're planning on going to Perth & my understanding is that the cost of living there is alot cheaper than the UK
Anyone in Perth who could comment on the cost of living please?
Leigh
We're planning on going to Perth & my understanding is that the cost of living there is alot cheaper than the UK
Anyone in Perth who could comment on the cost of living please?
Leigh
There will be those who find the cost of living in Perth cheaper than the UK and those that find it more expensive.
Trouble is that you haven't got the choice of shops to vary the prices in OZ. In the UK you have cheaper supermarkets like Aldi and Lidl and Foodgiant, theres more expensive ones like Adsa, Summerfield, Tesco, Co-op, Sainburys, Waitrose and Marks and Spencers. (blimey what a choice!). In Oz there isnt that kind of choice so prices are pretty similar.
Comparing prices with the UK I would say we found them to be about the same but when you're earning $'s shopping seems more expensive.
We certainly didn't have money to spend on luxuries like we do here. I think if people are honest about their new lives in Oz no matter where they are living they will tell you they are financially worse off than they were in the UK (odd exeption). Maybe we would have got financially better off over time but in the 16 months we were there things didn't get easier.
Just our version of things
Feb 17th 2006, 8:44 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by leigh&ivan
Sad to hear your experience is not a happy one & I admire you for giving it a chance & trying to stick it out. I was going to ask the same as Alan & Sam, would you not consider another state? Not all states are the same are they??
We're planning on going to Perth & my understanding is that the cost of living there is alot cheaper than the UK
Anyone in Perth who could comment on the cost of living please?
Leigh
We're planning on going to Perth & my understanding is that the cost of living there is alot cheaper than the UK
Anyone in Perth who could comment on the cost of living please?
Leigh
Feb 17th 2006, 8:49 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
It's swings and roundabouts; some things cheaper, but others more expensive.
I was born and bred in Perth, but have lived in the UK for just over two years now. My experience has been that many things are cheaper in the UK (such as electrical goods, groceries and second-hand cars) but you pay a lot more for other things. The range of products is also impressive; Britain's proximity to Europe grants access to a far wider market, with lower shipping costs. I have been very impressed with the wide variety and lower prices that I've found over here.
But in my experience the quality of fresh food in the supermarkets is inferior to the Australian equivalent; fortunately, my missus buys our greens from a local farm shop at prices that even Tesco can't beat.
I was born and bred in Perth, but have lived in the UK for just over two years now. My experience has been that many things are cheaper in the UK (such as electrical goods, groceries and second-hand cars) but you pay a lot more for other things. The range of products is also impressive; Britain's proximity to Europe grants access to a far wider market, with lower shipping costs. I have been very impressed with the wide variety and lower prices that I've found over here.
But in my experience the quality of fresh food in the supermarkets is inferior to the Australian equivalent; fortunately, my missus buys our greens from a local farm shop at prices that even Tesco can't beat.
Aunty who lives in Perth came over at Christmas and was very impressed with all the choice. Food shopping took her to another dimension! She was so impressed with the clothes she bought her wedding outfit for her daughters wedding !!!
Feb 17th 2006, 8:55 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by janeyray
I agree with you, I think the difference between the UK and Perth is that the UK has loads more choice and variety so you can choose how much you want to pay.
Aunty who lives in Perth came over at Christmas and was very impressed with all the choice. Food shopping took her to another dimension! She was so impressed with the clothes she bought her wedding outfit for her daughters wedding !!!
Aunty who lives in Perth came over at Christmas and was very impressed with all the choice. Food shopping took her to another dimension! She was so impressed with the clothes she bought her wedding outfit for her daughters wedding !!!
Its just that when we were there I couldnt believe how much better the choice of fruit and veg was, especially in the markets and the meat was certainly cheaper than here. I am talking 2003 btw!!
Feb 17th 2006, 8:55 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by janeyray
There will be those who find the cost of living in Perth cheaper than the UK and those that find it more expensive.
Trouble is that you haven't got the choice of shops to vary the prices in OZ. In the UK you have cheaper supermarkets like Aldi and Lidl and Foodgiant, theres more expensive ones like Adsa, Summerfield, Tesco, Co-op, Sainburys, Waitrose and Marks and Spencers. (blimey what a choice!). In Oz there isnt that kind of choice so prices are pretty similar.
Comparing prices with the UK I would say we found them to be about the same but when you're earning $'s shopping seems more expensive.
We certainly didn't have money to spend on luxuries like we do here. I think if people are honest about their new lives in Oz no matter where they are living they will tell you they are financially worse off than they were in the UK (odd exeption). Maybe we would have got financially better off over time but in the 16 months we were there things didn't get easier.
Just our version of things
Trouble is that you haven't got the choice of shops to vary the prices in OZ. In the UK you have cheaper supermarkets like Aldi and Lidl and Foodgiant, theres more expensive ones like Adsa, Summerfield, Tesco, Co-op, Sainburys, Waitrose and Marks and Spencers. (blimey what a choice!). In Oz there isnt that kind of choice so prices are pretty similar.
Comparing prices with the UK I would say we found them to be about the same but when you're earning $'s shopping seems more expensive.
We certainly didn't have money to spend on luxuries like we do here. I think if people are honest about their new lives in Oz no matter where they are living they will tell you they are financially worse off than they were in the UK (odd exeption). Maybe we would have got financially better off over time but in the 16 months we were there things didn't get easier.
Just our version of things
Feb 17th 2006, 9:15 pm
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Re: My take on OZ, 6 months in.
Originally Posted by possoms
Hi Janeyray can you eleborate on what you mean by more choice of food? do you mean convienience stuff??
Its just that when we were there I couldnt believe how much better the choice of fruit and veg was, especially in the markets and the meat was certainly cheaper than here. I am talking 2003 btw!!
Its just that when we were there I couldnt believe how much better the choice of fruit and veg was, especially in the markets and the meat was certainly cheaper than here. I am talking 2003 btw!!
We found the price of meat not really that much cheaper than the UK, maybe because we weren't earning that much? Maybe it just seemed expensive? we certainly found that the supermarkets here (UK) have more choice of foods like yogurts and cheese. Can't remember what we missed out on exactly but can remember thinking each time we went shopping, 'oh I wish they had such and such'
Spoilt for choice I feel in the UK supermarkets now.