My Husband Didn't Know He Had a Criminal Record.
Oct 20th 2007, 10:43 am
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My Husband Didn't Know He Had a Criminal Record.
My OH has just had his PNC back and it has listed an offence that he didn’t know resulted in him having a criminal record. He thought the offence was a warning only at the time.
Way back in 1990 aged 18½, he was stopped by the police on his way home from college for a routine stop and search. He and his friends who he was dropping off home were told to get out of the car and they were searched there and then.
He and his friends were scared to say the least, their first run in with the police.
End of the day they had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong so he let them get on with their duty.
It was a good cop bad cop combo that stopped them.
The ‘bad cop’ searched his car and found his dads wooden pick axe handle in the car as he's a carpenter.
It had been in the car for ages and he never thought of taking it out, stupidly my OH left it in the car and thought it would be clever to keep it in the car for protection.
He told the officer that he was keeping it for protection as the college he was attending was quite rough at the time. Bingo!! The officer smiled and started taking down his details.
Before he knew it, he was asked to go to court where he pleased guilty straight away and received a £20 fine and £25 court costs and what he thought was a slap on the wrists, nothing more, especially not a criminal record.
It also appears reading here:-
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...%20Records.pdf
that his record will stay on the PNC database for a total 20 years from the date of the offence, hence, another 2½ years.
Since 1990 he has behaved and is of good character, this has been his only run in with the law.
The problem is that he and I assumed that he didn’t have a criminal record therefore, I didn’t state it on our Skilled Visa application.
He has asked his manager for a character reference just in case.
What are the implications of all this as we are on the final stretch now and it has ruined our weekend. Only an England victory against SA tonight will cheer me up.
Thanks.
Way back in 1990 aged 18½, he was stopped by the police on his way home from college for a routine stop and search. He and his friends who he was dropping off home were told to get out of the car and they were searched there and then.
He and his friends were scared to say the least, their first run in with the police.
End of the day they had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong so he let them get on with their duty.
It was a good cop bad cop combo that stopped them.
The ‘bad cop’ searched his car and found his dads wooden pick axe handle in the car as he's a carpenter.
It had been in the car for ages and he never thought of taking it out, stupidly my OH left it in the car and thought it would be clever to keep it in the car for protection.
He told the officer that he was keeping it for protection as the college he was attending was quite rough at the time. Bingo!! The officer smiled and started taking down his details.
Before he knew it, he was asked to go to court where he pleased guilty straight away and received a £20 fine and £25 court costs and what he thought was a slap on the wrists, nothing more, especially not a criminal record.
It also appears reading here:-
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...%20Records.pdf
that his record will stay on the PNC database for a total 20 years from the date of the offence, hence, another 2½ years.
Since 1990 he has behaved and is of good character, this has been his only run in with the law.
The problem is that he and I assumed that he didn’t have a criminal record therefore, I didn’t state it on our Skilled Visa application.
He has asked his manager for a character reference just in case.
What are the implications of all this as we are on the final stretch now and it has ruined our weekend. Only an England victory against SA tonight will cheer me up.
Thanks.
Oct 20th 2007, 10:49 am
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Re: My Husband Didn't Know He Had a Criminal Record.
I think he'll be fine as it was so long ago.
PM me if you want a bit more advice.
PM me if you want a bit more advice.
Oct 20th 2007, 11:15 am
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Re: My Husband Didn't Know He Had a Criminal Record.
My OH has just had his PNC back and it has listed an offence that he didn’t know resulted in him having a criminal record. He thought the offence was a warning only at the time.
Way back in 1990 aged 18½, he was stopped by the police on his way home from college for a routine stop and search. He and his friends who he was dropping off home were told to get out of the car and they were searched there and then.
He and his friends were scared to say the least, their first run in with the police.
End of the day they had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong so he let them get on with their duty.
It was a good cop bad cop combo that stopped them.
The ‘bad cop’ searched his car and found his dads wooden pick axe handle in the car as he's a carpenter.
It had been in the car for ages and he never thought of taking it out, stupidly my OH left it in the car and thought it would be clever to keep it in the car for protection.
He told the officer that he was keeping it for protection as the college he was attending was quite rough at the time. Bingo!! The officer smiled and started taking down his details.
Before he knew it, he was asked to go to court where he pleased guilty straight away and received a £20 fine and £25 court costs and what he thought was a slap on the wrists, nothing more, especially not a criminal record.
It also appears reading here:-
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...%20Records.pdf
that his record will stay on the PNC database for a total 20 years from the date of the offence, hence, another 2½ years.
Since 1990 he has behaved and is of good character, this has been his only run in with the law.
The problem is that he and I assumed that he didn’t have a criminal record therefore, I didn’t state it on our Skilled Visa application.
He has asked his manager for a character reference just in case.
What are the implications of all this as we are on the final stretch now and it has ruined our weekend. Only an England victory against SA tonight will cheer me up.
Thanks.
Way back in 1990 aged 18½, he was stopped by the police on his way home from college for a routine stop and search. He and his friends who he was dropping off home were told to get out of the car and they were searched there and then.
He and his friends were scared to say the least, their first run in with the police.
End of the day they had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong so he let them get on with their duty.
It was a good cop bad cop combo that stopped them.
The ‘bad cop’ searched his car and found his dads wooden pick axe handle in the car as he's a carpenter.
It had been in the car for ages and he never thought of taking it out, stupidly my OH left it in the car and thought it would be clever to keep it in the car for protection.
He told the officer that he was keeping it for protection as the college he was attending was quite rough at the time. Bingo!! The officer smiled and started taking down his details.
Before he knew it, he was asked to go to court where he pleased guilty straight away and received a £20 fine and £25 court costs and what he thought was a slap on the wrists, nothing more, especially not a criminal record.
It also appears reading here:-
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...%20Records.pdf
that his record will stay on the PNC database for a total 20 years from the date of the offence, hence, another 2½ years.
Since 1990 he has behaved and is of good character, this has been his only run in with the law.
The problem is that he and I assumed that he didn’t have a criminal record therefore, I didn’t state it on our Skilled Visa application.
He has asked his manager for a character reference just in case.
What are the implications of all this as we are on the final stretch now and it has ruined our weekend. Only an England victory against SA tonight will cheer me up.
Thanks.
I cant believe he even ended up in Court to begin with. It's a bit like being arrested for thinking about having too many drinks in the pub before driving & then not or saying in passing that you'd like to "kill" someone who has annoyed you. Just a thought NOT an action. Your OH hadn't actually done anything wrong!
I hope things work out for you-I'm sure it will be fine as at the end of the day he didn't do anything wrong and as regards not putting it on the form it is (or was til now) such a distant memory it would be easy to claim forgetfulness.
Oct 20th 2007, 11:34 am
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Re: My Husband Didn't Know He Had a Criminal Record.
OH Here.
Thanks for the replies gang.
Honesty is the best policy therefore I admitted to the offence straight away when I was told that carrying the handle was illegal.
I was also told by these policeman that if I pleaded guilty straight away, which I did, that I'd only receive a fine and a warning as it was my first offence.
At the time I was just glad it was all over and have never thought about the incident until now.
All the jobs I've had since then which required a criminal record checks haven't caused any problems so I just assumed I was in the clear.
I am going to look into the possibility of obtaining the actual report that was filed by these officers. Only for the fact that it will state it was a wooden handle and not a rocket propelled grenade or something of that nature, something which the PNC check fails mention "Offensive Weapon" could mean anything.
May help with the application if anything and help get things into perspective.
Regards.
Thanks for the replies gang.
Honesty is the best policy therefore I admitted to the offence straight away when I was told that carrying the handle was illegal.
I was also told by these policeman that if I pleaded guilty straight away, which I did, that I'd only receive a fine and a warning as it was my first offence.
At the time I was just glad it was all over and have never thought about the incident until now.
All the jobs I've had since then which required a criminal record checks haven't caused any problems so I just assumed I was in the clear.
I am going to look into the possibility of obtaining the actual report that was filed by these officers. Only for the fact that it will state it was a wooden handle and not a rocket propelled grenade or something of that nature, something which the PNC check fails mention "Offensive Weapon" could mean anything.
May help with the application if anything and help get things into perspective.
Regards.
Oct 20th 2007, 12:04 pm
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Why dont you post your thread in the Immigration section, you might get more suitable answers to your question from an agent who frequently visit that site.
Oct 20th 2007, 12:17 pm
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Oct 20th 2007, 2:05 pm
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If its any consolation my hubby has a criminal record for urinating in a public place (he's gonna love me for telling you this - These silly things that you do when you are young!) We declared it and had no problem - we now have a visa!
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Oct 20th 2007, 3:08 pm
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You must be joking, criminal record for public peeing.
What a bunch of b*****ks is that. If thats a "criminal offence" what about driving fast, or not wearing a seatbelt.
What a joke.
What a bunch of b*****ks is that. If thats a "criminal offence" what about driving fast, or not wearing a seatbelt.
What a joke.
Oct 20th 2007, 4:19 pm
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Oct 20th 2007, 4:38 pm
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I was done for being drunk on the Millenium taken away by police at 00.01am !!! ....and my migration agent just asked me to write a letter expaining what happened and that never been in trouble before this or after he said it should be fine ....fingers crossed should get the visa i too didnt write it on the visa application as I thought a conviction was something major like prison but obviously not so....good luck
...and my migration agent just asked me to write a letter expaining what happened and that never been in trouble before this or after he said it should be fine ....fingers crossed should get the visa i too didnt write it on the visa application as I thought a conviction was something major like prison but obviously not so....good luck
Oct 20th 2007, 5:15 pm
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Andy was eighteen too, but he did pee on the Mansion House doorstep! Last time we went to Oz we declared it on the arrivals form and they immigration officers were all P***ing themselves laughing! (obviously not in a public place )
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