Is Moving To Australia Still Worth It In 2017/18
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The Troub has trumped you yet again. /Its called knowledge of the subject referred to. If you only read the segments that appear to endorse your point of view, you will never arrive at a thought out conclusion to support your statement.
It will always be and remain sound bites. Nothing more.
It will always be and remain sound bites. Nothing more.
You tripped rather than trumped.
Again ... where do you read this crap?
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So as I said, he might have had a good year in sales, got a bonus, sold equity etc. The $700k a year is probably a one off.
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if you know much about the finance industry it has high burn out and requires a 'high performance' to remain. Don't blame me if you are not au fait with requirements in the area.
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If your government job is far easier, stick to it and accept it.
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You don't know then what I term the financial industry. one thing burn out in the extreme form is a regular feature. Self destructive tendencies are certainly not uncommon.
As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
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As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
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You don't know then what I term the financial industry. one thing burn out in the extreme form is a regular feature. Self destructive tendencies are certainly not uncommon.
As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
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You don't know then what I term the financial industry. one thing burn out in the extreme form is a regular feature. Self destructive tendencies are certainly not uncommon.
As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
As for government jobs, I see you are not very au fait with that area either. There is rather a lot of stress in large segments of that area with cutbacks, increased work loads and the usual bull shite, inflicting a lot of staff in many areas of working life these in and out of government.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
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I would not deny that their are stressful government jobs. I am referring to yours. For starters at the top, the PM. Look stressful enough for minimal pay? That is not going to be for all and the best are going to be hard to find. The Singapore model is far better.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
Being an infantry soldier in Afghanistan is stressful
Being a nurse in an emergency room is stressful
Being a policeman confronting some asshat loaded on ice is stressful
Being a bureaucrat, sitting is air-conditioned office, on an above average salary, with excessive super, with virtually zero chance of being dismissed for incompetence, possessing minimal work ethic yet constantly complaining and doing work that is of little use to anyone but some other bureaucrat, is not stressful
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Yes
Being an infantry soldier in Afghanistan is stressful
Being a nurse in an emergency room is stressful
Being a policeman confronting some asshat loaded on ice is stressful
Being a bureaucrat, sitting is air-conditioned office, on an above average salary, with excessive super, with virtually zero chance of being dismissed for incompetence, possessing minimal work ethic yet constantly complaining and doing work that is of little use to anyone but some other bureaucrat, is not stressful
Being an infantry soldier in Afghanistan is stressful
Being a nurse in an emergency room is stressful
Being a policeman confronting some asshat loaded on ice is stressful
Being a bureaucrat, sitting is air-conditioned office, on an above average salary, with excessive super, with virtually zero chance of being dismissed for incompetence, possessing minimal work ethic yet constantly complaining and doing work that is of little use to anyone but some other bureaucrat, is not stressful
Some of the verbal abuse is water off a duck's back to an ex soldier, for example. In the case of a cop, he or she knows that he or she has the moral high ground so it's easy to not take it too seriously.
Work in finance is often well rewarded and not stressful if it's not linked to mgmt or point of delivery. Infact, this is where the trickle-down effect is alive and well, Mr T, - analysts earning 150k a year plus to read and reply to emails using their knowledge.
Talk about cutbacks is hard to conclude- the private sector also suffers from not enough of a headcount - so public sector employees are not special. But if you know people are working well, that is more important.
I was talking to my GP friend the other day and he admitted that the work I do is in fact far more technical and more involved in terms of prioritisation, budgets, planning than much of the work many of his medic friends do at all sorts of levels and in all sorts of areas. We were both quite surprised infact.
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I've worked in many an ops room over the years at some fairly high levels , and again, lot of opportunity for stress which is self-induced. But everyone is in the same boat which makes it a lot easier. Briefing a VIP or senior polly seems stressful if you are 21. When you are 45 it's actually quite easy.
As for firies - water off a duck's back. You are doing a well paid job which many queue for. Ambos are the same. I do believe there needs to be support in place - but much of the spt is of course the close knit team.
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I would not deny that their are stressful government jobs. I am referring to yours. For starters at the top, the PM. Look stressful enough for minimal pay. That is not going to be for all and the best are going to be hard to find. The Singapore model is far better.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
But people have choices. If it suits you, get on with it, if it does not, change it. Relying on others to do it for you will get you no where.
Never mind about me. Stress comes in many shapes and forms. The most protracted stress coming from a position of vulnerability. Being in such a position can be very hard to find relief from. Neither are the best in the top positions. Do you really believe that? The Singapore model is not far better. What aspects excite you about it? The authoritarian democracy?
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Yes
Being an infantry soldier in Afghanistan is stressful
Being a nurse in an emergency room is stressful
Being a policeman confronting some asshat loaded on ice is stressful
Being a bureaucrat, sitting is air-conditioned office, on an above average salary, with excessive super, with virtually zero chance of being dismissed for incompetence, possessing minimal work ethic yet constantly complaining and doing work that is of little use to anyone but some other bureaucrat, is not stressful
Being an infantry soldier in Afghanistan is stressful
Being a nurse in an emergency room is stressful
Being a policeman confronting some asshat loaded on ice is stressful
Being a bureaucrat, sitting is air-conditioned office, on an above average salary, with excessive super, with virtually zero chance of being dismissed for incompetence, possessing minimal work ethic yet constantly complaining and doing work that is of little use to anyone but some other bureaucrat, is not stressful
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It does have its moments of stress rest assured. Usually revolves around back stabbers, inept department heads, leap froggers, as well as some dead wood. Hardly unique though. But the trick is to get in line for a big pay out and return part time as a consultant on far more money of course.
In government employment, the dead wood are very hard to get rid of given self-imposed restrictions on firing. Policies encourage government employees to game the system - I personally know someone who got a $200k+ in hand settlement from the WA government because he was 'bullied' and placed under undue stress. In reality, he's a lazy and incompetent f**ker
As for the consultant thing, nice gig if you can get it (above guy certainly has done) and as long as the taxpayer is picking up the tab who gives a shit eh
Banning consultants from being financed by the taxpayer is the way to go - and in the jurisdictions where this has been implemented, there has generally been little drop in performance and output