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buchanan Apr 6th 2009 12:02 am

Milk
 
We have been drinking skimmed milk for many years now, bit since moving to Aus 10 weeks ago we are struggling to find it in most supermarkets, there is one that stocks it but the shop is rubbish to go there for your weekly shop so we don't use it. Does anyone understand the types of milk, the colours of lids ( there is no consistency with them) and what is Hilo milk??

northernbird Apr 6th 2009 12:26 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 7455631)
We have been drinking skimmed milk for many years now, bit since moving to Aus 10 weeks ago we are struggling to find it in most supermarkets, there is one that stocks it but the shop is rubbish to go there for your weekly shop so we don't use it. Does anyone understand the types of milk, the colours of lids ( there is no consistency with them) and what is Hilo milk??

In my supermarket there is hi lo which I think is comparable to semi skimmed which in Woolworths is usually green bottle. There is one in the red container which is skimmed and then a pale blue one called Tone no fat.

Vash the Stampede Apr 6th 2009 12:35 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 7455631)
We have been drinking skimmed milk for many years now, bit since moving to Aus 10 weeks ago we are struggling to find it in most supermarkets, there is one that stocks it but the shop is rubbish to go there for your weekly shop so we don't use it. Does anyone understand the types of milk, the colours of lids ( there is no consistency with them) and what is Hilo milk??

HiLo is high calcium, low fat milk.

Skimmed milk should be easy to find in any supermarket; look for names like "Shape", "Pura Tone", "Skimmer", and "Skinny Milk". These are all brands of skimmed milk.

I don't think you'll find "semi-skimmed" milk; it seems to be a UK novelty.

MartinLuther Apr 6th 2009 1:05 am

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Milk marked as No Fat is skimmed milk.

Milk marked as Low Fat (or Lite) is semi-skimmed.

There is no standard colour scheme for the different types (although white top usually indicates full fat).

Certainly where we live there is plenty of choice and availability of skimmed and semi-skimmed. Semi-skimmed is usually close in price to full fat but skimmed is about twice the price.

Rob12paws Apr 6th 2009 1:37 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 7455631)
We have been drinking skimmed milk for many years now, bit since moving to Aus 10 weeks ago we are struggling to find it in most supermarkets, there is one that stocks it but the shop is rubbish to go there for your weekly shop so we don't use it. Does anyone understand the types of milk, the colours of lids ( there is no consistency with them) and what is Hilo milk??


Where are you? I buy my milk at a small local shop here in Rockingham - organic, non-homogenised full fat or skimmed - gorgeous...:thumbup:

ABCDiamond Apr 6th 2009 2:45 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 7455631)
Does anyone understand the types of milk,

Too much choice to understand it, I just drink the first option....

Regular Milk / Whole Milk / Full Cream Milk

Full fat milk on average contains at the most 3.8 percent milk fat and at least 3.2 percent milk fat. Whole milk has a rich creamy texture. Whole milk contains the most fat it is recommended for toddlers and children because it increases their bone density. Teenagers and young adults continue to drink full cream milk because they prefer the taste or want or need to gain weight. Adults trying to lose weight should avoid regular milk is because of its higher fat content.

Reduced Fat Milk

Reduced fat milk contains approximately 2 percent milk fat. If you are trying to change from drinking full cream milk but finding it difficult then reduced fat milk is a good option. However, unless your diet is very low in fat then reduced fat milk is still too high in fat to help you lose those extra kilos. Reduced fat milk is excellent for teenagers and young adults who want to maintain their weight.

Low Fat Milk

Milk has less than 1.5 percent milk fat which is why most people find it the most appealing compromise. Low fat milk has all the same nutritional benefits of higher fat milks and even has added calcium so it is ideal for teenagers and adults who are watching their weight.

Skim Milk/No Fat Milk

Skim milk has as much fat removed as possible and contains no more than 0.5 percent milk fat. Milk solids are added to give flavour, however, some people find that no fat milk is too thin and watery. No fat milk has all the nutrients but half the calories whole milk. Skim milk is the ideal choice for adults who want the goodness of milk and are on a low fat diet. Skim milk must not be consumed by toddlers or children under the age of five.

Buttermilk/ Cultured Milk

Buttermilk is made by adding a lactic-acid culture to pasteurised skim or low fat milk. Buttermilk has a tangy flavour which makes it great for baking. Buttermilk is commonly used for baking pancakes and muffins. Buttermilk was originally a by-product of butter making, but is now made by culturing milk. Sometimes a small amount of butter is added for a smoother flavour and texture. Buttermilk is not usually fortified with vitamins A and D.

Modified Milk

Modified Milk can be protein or calcium enriched, iron fortified, low in lactose or contain plant sterols which lower cholesterol. Modified milk is made to specially cater for certain dietary requirements. Modified milks specifies who it is targeted to and explains the benefits on its packaging. Modified milk with extra calcium is great for menopausal women, elderly people and those who need extra calcium, especially those at risk of developing osteoporosis.

Fortified Milk
Whole or low fat milk that has nutrients added. For example Omega-3 fatty acids and Vitamin D which are not naturally found nutrients.

Ultrafiltration (UF) Milk

This type of milk is enriched with protein and calcium.

Calcium Enriched Milk

This type of milk has even more calcium packed into a glass of milk. No fat or low-fat milk is generally modified. Calcium enriched milk contains about 500 milligrams of added calcium per cup which means it is excellent for menopausal women, elderly people and those who need extra calcium, especially those at risk of developing osteoporosis.

Flavoured Milk

Flavours can be added to regular, reduced fat, skim, modified and longlife milk. Some types of flavours have been sweetened with low kilojoules sweeteners but most have a lot of added sugar which equals added kilojoules.

Malted Milk

Malt is often added to milk and is a common flavour added to milkshakes. You can buy malt and honey and a range of flavours all ready packaged from your supermarket or you can buy the powder and make you own milk drinks.

Acidophilus Milk

Acidophilus milk has the same nutritional value as the milk it is made from. Acidophilus milk is usually skim milk with bacterium lactobacillus acidophilus added to it. Acidophilus milk is good for our digestive systems and can help combat intolerances. Acidophilus milk helps restore beneficial bacteria to the intestines after taking antibiotics. Acidophilus milk is good for you if you have or have had travellers' diarrhoea.

Lactose Reduced Milk

Lactose is an enzyme found naturally in milk. Lactose reduced milk is an option for those with a lactose intolerance.

http://www.dairyfoods.com.au/milk/

and of course A2 Milk

:lol:

kporte Apr 6th 2009 3:00 pm

Re: Milk
 
You're really milking it now ABC!

moneypenny20 Apr 6th 2009 3:33 pm

Re: Milk
 
There's tons of choice in Woolies - all different types. The coloured lids are not uniform across brands though. Just look for Lite and if in doubt, ask in the dairy section. That's what we did - just explain you've just arrived in the country and the labelling is different to what you're used to.

ray2gill Apr 6th 2009 4:01 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 7455631)
We have been drinking skimmed milk for many years now, bit since moving to Aus 10 weeks ago we are struggling to find it in most supermarkets, there is one that stocks it but the shop is rubbish to go there for your weekly shop so we don't use it. Does anyone understand the types of milk, the colours of lids ( there is no consistency with them) and what is Hilo milk??

I know what you mean. We buy Dairy Farmers No Fat Skim (pink top) as it is the only one I have found which is purely pasteurized all the others have things added and include homoganised (excuse spelling) milk.

The same with fruit juice. We can't buy the cartons of pure fruit juice concentrate with just water added. They all have gum and vitamins and other things added. They are additive mad here.

Petals Apr 6th 2009 6:54 pm

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Gosh where is this supermarket we have such an array of stuff non milk, milk, a whole huge cabinet full of the stuff.

Don't you know its soy you have to drink these days and light at that :D

SillyOldBag Apr 6th 2009 7:03 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7457988)
I know what you mean. We buy Dairy Farmers No Fat Skim (pink top) as it is the only one I have found which is purely pasteurized all the others have things added and include homoganised (excuse spelling) milk.

The same with fruit juice. We can't buy the cartons of pure fruit juice concentrate with just water added. They all have gum and vitamins and other things added. They are additive mad here.

I've been a skimmed milk drinker for years and I have found that Dairy Farmers No Fat Skimmed milk (pink top) is the one I prefer. It's only since I came here that I have discovered that I am fussy about it - in the UK I really didn't care!

moneypenny20 Apr 6th 2009 11:47 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7457988)
The same with fruit juice. We can't buy the cartons of pure fruit juice concentrate with just water added. They all have gum and vitamins and other things added. They are additive mad here.

Well I've just checked the two cartons of both orange juice and breakfast juice (Berri and Original) and neither of them have gum and other stuff added. The orange has vitamin C but that's it.

sparkleauz Apr 7th 2009 12:01 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7457843)
Too much choice to understand it, I just drink the first option....

Regular Milk / Whole Milk / Full Cream Milk

Full fat milk on average contains at the most 3.8 percent milk fat and at least 3.2 percent milk fat. Whole milk has a rich creamy texture. Whole milk contains the most fat it is recommended for toddlers and children because it increases their bone density. Teenagers and young adults continue to drink full cream milk because they prefer the taste or want or need to gain weight. Adults trying to lose weight should avoid regular milk is because of its higher fat content.

Reduced Fat Milk

Reduced fat milk contains approximately 2 percent milk fat. If you are trying to change from drinking full cream milk but finding it difficult then reduced fat milk is a good option. However, unless your diet is very low in fat then reduced fat milk is still too high in fat to help you lose those extra kilos. Reduced fat milk is excellent for teenagers and young adults who want to maintain their weight.

Low Fat Milk

Milk has less than 1.5 percent milk fat which is why most people find it the most appealing compromise. Low fat milk has all the same nutritional benefits of higher fat milks and even has added calcium so it is ideal for teenagers and adults who are watching their weight.

Skim Milk/No Fat Milk

Skim milk has as much fat removed as possible and contains no more than 0.5 percent milk fat. Milk solids are added to give flavour, however, some people find that no fat milk is too thin and watery. No fat milk has all the nutrients but half the calories whole milk. Skim milk is the ideal choice for adults who want the goodness of milk and are on a low fat diet. Skim milk must not be consumed by toddlers or children under the age of five.

Buttermilk/ Cultured Milk

Buttermilk is made by adding a lactic-acid culture to pasteurised skim or low fat milk. Buttermilk has a tangy flavour which makes it great for baking. Buttermilk is commonly used for baking pancakes and muffins. Buttermilk was originally a by-product of butter making, but is now made by culturing milk. Sometimes a small amount of butter is added for a smoother flavour and texture. Buttermilk is not usually fortified with vitamins A and D.

Modified Milk

Modified Milk can be protein or calcium enriched, iron fortified, low in lactose or contain plant sterols which lower cholesterol. Modified milk is made to specially cater for certain dietary requirements. Modified milks specifies who it is targeted to and explains the benefits on its packaging. Modified milk with extra calcium is great for menopausal women, elderly people and those who need extra calcium, especially those at risk of developing osteoporosis.

Fortified Milk
Whole or low fat milk that has nutrients added. For example Omega-3 fatty acids and Vitamin D which are not naturally found nutrients.

Ultrafiltration (UF) Milk

This type of milk is enriched with protein and calcium.

Calcium Enriched Milk

This type of milk has even more calcium packed into a glass of milk. No fat or low-fat milk is generally modified. Calcium enriched milk contains about 500 milligrams of added calcium per cup which means it is excellent for menopausal women, elderly people and those who need extra calcium, especially those at risk of developing osteoporosis.

Flavoured Milk

Flavours can be added to regular, reduced fat, skim, modified and longlife milk. Some types of flavours have been sweetened with low kilojoules sweeteners but most have a lot of added sugar which equals added kilojoules.

Malted Milk

Malt is often added to milk and is a common flavour added to milkshakes. You can buy malt and honey and a range of flavours all ready packaged from your supermarket or you can buy the powder and make you own milk drinks.

Acidophilus Milk

Acidophilus milk has the same nutritional value as the milk it is made from. Acidophilus milk is usually skim milk with bacterium lactobacillus acidophilus added to it. Acidophilus milk is good for our digestive systems and can help combat intolerances. Acidophilus milk helps restore beneficial bacteria to the intestines after taking antibiotics. Acidophilus milk is good for you if you have or have had travellers' diarrhoea.

Lactose Reduced Milk

Lactose is an enzyme found naturally in milk. Lactose reduced milk is an option for those with a lactose intolerance.

http://www.dairyfoods.com.au/milk/

and of course A2 Milk

:lol:


Not much of a choice then! :lol:

shorrock Apr 7th 2009 4:54 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by Rob12paws (Post 7455890)
Where are you? I buy my milk at a small local shop here in Rockingham - organic, non-homogenised full fat or skimmed - gorgeous...:thumbup:

This is the ONLY way that Milk should be. There really is a significant difference with Organic. Also Organic lasts longer due to the process they put it through.

It's usually double the price but it is well worth it.

PoppetUK Apr 7th 2009 6:36 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7457988)
I know what you mean. We buy Dairy Farmers No Fat Skim (pink top) as it is the only one I have found which is purely pasteurized all the others have things added and include homoganised (excuse spelling) milk.

The same with fruit juice. We can't buy the cartons of pure fruit juice concentrate with just water added. They all have gum and vitamins and other things added. They are additive mad here.

Agree with u. I liked the bit on the current affairs programme the other night which said if your great great grand mother would recognize it then it's not food! How many aisles does that rule out. I felt much more supported with additive free food choices in the UK. Here I am a freak. All the parents were being educated about the content of food. I sense it will be another 5 years before the baby aisle is questioned here. I bet child dentists make a fortune here to!

PoppetUK Apr 7th 2009 6:46 am

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Originally Posted by shorrock (Post 7459860)
This is the ONLY way that Milk should be. There really is a significant difference with Organic. Also Organic lasts longer due to the process they put it through.

It's usually double the price but it is well worth it.

Are you talking Malibu fresh? If you are it cost me $7 last week. U are right it is lovely but buying organic is expensive here because there aren't the consumers and competition driving prices down.

I really don't like the idea of giving my kids milk where cows are given drugs. After all you go to lengths to avoid medications whilst breast feeding etc. Some dairy farms even give drugs to Increase supply. I'm skeptical at how good the white stuff is.

Wish I could find soy yoghurt without sugar in the supermarket.

Vash the Stampede Apr 7th 2009 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 7460151)
I liked the bit on the current affairs programme the other night which said if your great great grand mother would recognize it then it's not food! How many aisles does that rule out.

Well, it completely rules out soy milk. :lol:


I bet child dentists make a fortune here to!
Not really. We have fluoridated water, so our children's teeth tends to be in better condition. :D

jad n rich Apr 7th 2009 9:18 am

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 7460151)

Agree with u. I liked the bit on the current affairs programme the other night which said if your great great grand mother would recognize it then it's not food!


Milk here can be horribly tampered with:eek: there is a milk for kids, enriched I believe is the speel, it tastes like FISH:eek: Thought kids were winding me up till I took a mouthful and nearly vomited.

The other one is calcium enriched, erm yes but I dont want my milk to taste like chalk with syrup and be thick as evaported milk.

Also watch some of the cheaper soy milks, some are full of cooking oil!!

Bernieboy Apr 7th 2009 10:40 am

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Sod milk drink:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

the plumber Apr 7th 2009 10:45 am

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God give me strength.......:confused:

winging pom alert......

ABCDiamond Apr 7th 2009 12:55 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by sparkleauz (Post 7458916)
Not much of a choice then! :lol:

Wait till a cheese thread appears.... then see what I come up with.... :rofl:

OzSheila Apr 7th 2009 1:23 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 7460650)
Milk here can be horribly tampered with:eek: there is a milk for kids, enriched I believe is the speel, it tastes like FISH:eek: Thought kids were winding me up till I took a mouthful and nearly vomited.

Yes, they put fish oil in to make our kids "smarter". Do it with bread too - got caught out last week. It's disgusting and I don't know how anyone could eat/drink the stuff. Mind you they do the same in the UK. STOP tampering with our food I say!!!

ray2gill Apr 7th 2009 6:15 pm

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Originally Posted by the plumber (Post 7460851)
God give me strength.......:confused:

winging pom alert......

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen;)

ray2gill Apr 7th 2009 6:16 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7461160)
Wait till a cheese thread appears.... then see what I come up with.... :rofl:

What about Pate??? Have they never heard of it here??

ray2gill Apr 7th 2009 6:19 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by OzSheila (Post 7461194)
Yes, they put fish oil in to make our kids "smarter". Do it with bread too - got caught out last week. It's disgusting and I don't know how anyone could eat/drink the stuff. Mind you they do the same in the UK. STOP tampering with our food I say!!!

Does anyone know if GM food is permitted here? I would be very wary of buying anything soya as 90% of the worlds soya is GM now, thanks to the USA and Monsanto.

ABCDiamond Apr 7th 2009 7:26 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7461683)
What about Pate??? Have they never heard of it here??

I eat Pate here. Not often, but I get it at Woolworths.

Vash the Stampede Apr 7th 2009 7:48 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by OzSheila (Post 7461194)
Yes, they put fish oil in to make our kids "smarter".

No, they don't put fish oil in milk. Nor does this have anything to do with making kids "smarter". They give the fish oil to cows, for the purpose of raising the Omega 3 levels in their milk. This is done for reasons of human health.

Here's a article from the Scotsman in 2005:

A "SUPERMILK" containing Omega 3 fatty acids derived from oily fish is to go on sale this week.

It is produced by cows which are given a special fish oil blend along with their normal feed. A 250ml serving contains ten times more of the Omega 3 acids known as DHA and EPA than regular milk but is said to taste the same.

Omega 3 fatty acids tackle heart disease and ensure healthy nails, hair and skin.
Source.

Needless to say, you cannot actually taste fish oil in the milk, because there is no fish oil in the milk and Omega 3 does not taste of fish. And needless to say, Omega 3 is a naturally occurring fatty acid; it is not an artificial additive.


Do it with bread too - got caught out last week. It's disgusting and I don't know how anyone could eat/drink the stuff.
The Omega 3 in your food is tasteless and odourless. Whatever you think you're tasting, it is not Omega 3.


Mind you they do the same in the UK.
Yes, they do.

Vash the Stampede Apr 7th 2009 7:51 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7461689)
Does anyone know if GM food is permitted here? I would be very wary of buying anything soya as 90% of the worlds soya is GM now, thanks to the USA and Monsanto.

GM food is permitted in Australia, but only after it has been approved by Food Standards Australia New Zealand. All GM foods must be clearly labelled as GM foods. This is a mandatory requirement.

More info here.

sr71 Apr 7th 2009 8:11 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 7460151)
I bet child dentists make a fortune here to!

Any Brit commenting on another nations teeth is on very shaky ground ;)

crap coffee Apr 7th 2009 8:59 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by Rob12paws (Post 7455890)
Where are you? I buy my milk at a small local shop here in Rockingham - organic, non-homogenised full fat or skimmed - gorgeous...:thumbup:

nz Organic milk tastes like sh't..... it tastes like water....:thumbdown:

Organic tend to be nicer taste... but Hell No.

haven't tried Oz organic milk though....

well I only drink UHT here...:eek:.. It's rich, sweet and tasty enough for me....AND no yucky smell... unlike regular fresh milk... VEry GOod..:thumbup::rofl::D

crap coffee Apr 7th 2009 9:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7461885)
GM food is permitted in Australia,

That's TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad:

thought Not in NZ...f***ing hell.

jad n rich Apr 7th 2009 9:41 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by crap coffee (Post 7462074)
That's TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad:

thought Not in NZ...f***ing hell.

And it does not always have to be labelled, many items such as sugar, cooking oil and other processed foods do not have to admit they have GM products in them. That is OZ, I dont know about NZ.

jad n rich Apr 7th 2009 9:48 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7461872)
.



Needless to say, you cannot actually taste fish oil in the milk, because there is no fish oil in the milk and Omega 3 does not taste of fish. And needless to say, Omega 3 is a naturally occurring fatty acid; it is not an artificial additive.



The Omega 3 in your food is tasteless and odourless. Whatever you think you're tasting, it is not Omega 3.



Go to Coles or woolworth and buy the purple labelled milk with pictures of very happy small children ( all that fish I guess :rofl: )

Take glass, pour milk, give to child:lol: wait for reaction, OMG it tastes like a MULLET MILKSHAKE.

Calmly remove glass, accuse child of gross over reacting, drink some yourself, OMG MLLET MILKSHAKE.

Great product if you ever encounter friends or relatives children you hate:rofl:

WelshSarah Apr 7th 2009 9:58 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7461683)
What about Pate??? Have they never heard of it here??


You are joking arent you...:) Please say you are!!

MartinLuther Apr 7th 2009 10:00 pm

Re: Milk
 
The kids used to eat Rice Kirspies in the UK but I can't find them here. Do you think I should buy them at the UK shop? :unsure:

ABCDiamond Apr 7th 2009 10:22 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 7462153)
And it does not always have to be labelled, many items such as sugar.

Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ)

GM food products on sale in Australia and New Zealand - either as a whole food or as an ingredient in a processed food - must have their GM status identified if introduced genetic material or protein is present in the final food. This identification will appear on the packaging label or near the food if it is unpackaged.

So, a typical ingredients list for a food containing a GM ingredient could be:
Ingredients: wheat flour, water added, yeast, soya flour (genetically modified), vegetable oil, sugar, emulsifiers (471, 472E), preservative (282), enzyme amylase.

There are, however, some exceptions.

Products that do not need to be labelled include:
  • highly refined food, such as sugar or cottonseed oil, where the refining process removes any GM material
  • processing aids and food additives, where there is no GM material present in the final food
  • flavours which are present in an amount less than 0.1 per cent (1 in 1000 parts) in the final food
  • food prepared in restaurants or takeaways shops.
A food may also contain up to one per cent of unintended GM product

OzSheila Apr 7th 2009 10:52 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7461872)
No, they don't put fish oil in milk. Nor does this have anything to do with making kids "smarter". They give the fish oil to cows, for the purpose of raising the Omega 3 levels in their milk. This is done for reasons of human health..

Not correct.
http://www.ferret.com.au/c/Tetra-PAK...y-milk-n688050

Vash the Stampede Apr 7th 2009 11:10 pm

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Originally Posted by OzSheila (Post 7462322)

Well, well. So the UK dairies do put fish oil in their milk. You learn something new every day. And that's from 2005, I see.

Tastes like ordinary milk, too. Always a bonus.

PoppetUK Apr 7th 2009 11:58 pm

Re: Milk
 

Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7461689)
Does anyone know if GM food is permitted here? I would be very wary of buying anything soya as 90% of the worlds soya is GM now, thanks to the USA and Monsanto.

I was recently reading a book by an Australian nutritionist and although I can't be certain I think GM food is allowed. We've not had soya yoghurt since leaving the UK. I really don't trust food here though.

Ginger3710 Apr 8th 2009 4:20 am

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Originally Posted by ray2gill (Post 7461683)
What about Pate??? Have they never heard of it here??

I can get pate at every supermarket I shop at ie IGA, Woolies, Coles, Franklins. I guess it depends where you live, I'm in Sydney. If your local supermarket doesn't stock it, why not ask the manager if they will stock some. Often they will do that.


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