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ellen1 Jan 21st 2003 2:53 am

migration agents uk
 
hi
does anyone know of any good migrant agencies in or around Nottingham uk? will they give free advise if your not planning on applying till next year?
cheers

mashiraz Jan 21st 2003 4:23 am

Re: migration agents uk
 
Hi me again...

Don't know of any in the local area, but you need to ensure they are registed by the mara. Link: http://www.themara.com.au

Also some advise on here and are good and helpful, but not local: Try:
http://www.gomatilda.com/home.cfm
http://www.austimmigration.com.au

You should also plan to attend Emigrate show in March for advice, information and to meet some of them.
Link
http://www.outboundpublishing.com/cg...howitem=000001

Do some research, Cheers
Mash..



Originally posted by ellen1
hi
does anyone know of any good migrant agencies in or around Nottingham uk? will they give free advise if your not planning on applying till next year?
cheers

Grub Jan 21st 2003 4:57 am

Re: migration agents uk
 
Having been bitten terribly by Four Corners (Cheshire) and found ourselves 2700k short and still no visa after 2 years, i would suggest really looking around.
Find out what their success rates are and how qualified are their staff? (ie have they any idea!)
Also consider someone who works on a no win no fee basis (one of the moderators used this method and got through quickly and effectively). They have a vested interest as they have alot to lose if you dont get through.
the average price seems to be about 800 pounds. Dont be fooled by people like 4 Corners- the more you spend in this case does not mean the better service you get- believe me!

Good luck!

Nicky

cyclops3 Jan 21st 2003 1:56 pm

Re: migration agents uk
 

Originally posted by Grub
Having been bitten terribly by Four Corners (Cheshire) and found ourselves 2700k short and still no visa after 2 years, i would suggest really looking around.
Find out what their success rates are and how qualified are their staff? (ie have they any idea!)
Also consider someone who works on a no win no fee basis (one of the moderators used this method and got through quickly and effectively). They have a vested interest as they have alot to lose if you dont get through.
the average price seems to be about 800 pounds. Dont be fooled by people like 4 Corners- the more you spend in this case does not mean the better service you get- believe me!

Good luck!

Nicky
Nicky

Thanks for this bit of info.
I am dismayed as I am beginning the process of applying for Oz through 4 Corners in Cheshire.
4 Corners proudly state that 99% (or whatever it is) of people applying through them were successsful.
Do you think that they are just slow or really don't care about service and their reputation once they your money is in the bank ?

PS / I hope you do get a positive result soon !

Mike

Grub Jan 21st 2003 11:37 pm

Re: migration agents uk
 
I am sure that we have been unfortunate but considering they have affected both my sisters and my case it seems a bit coincidental. My sister went through sponsored (my uncle has been in Perth for 30 years). She needed 2 yrs out of the previous three in employment before lodgment. As she had been travelling this would have meant she satisified the criteria in April 01 but Helen Brereton (both our case officer) lodged them in Dec 00. When they had their case opened in July they had an outright rejection. They have now had to pay a fortune to get a 457 which means they still dont have PR. When we had our case opened in Dec we were told by the High Commission that we were short of 12 months experience. Again- Helen had lodged us without all the info that we needed. We (after a 2 year wait) are now at the back of yet another 3 month postal queue. We have sacked the agents who are refusing a refund because as far s they are concerned they have done a job. Well all i can say is if i did that bad a job then i would be more than happy to refund my client to save embarrassment.

Just watch them and if you can change agents (ie get your money back ) then do. They are expensive and as far as we are concernced- a waste of money.

PS they are also terrible at correspondence. After lodgement in May 01 we never heard from them again. We have done virtually all the work oursleves. Including phoning the HC, getting out own medicals and police checks done etc.

I am sorry that i cant be more positive but they have screwed with our lives and i find that unforgivable.

If you can change agents my sister used a fab one in Perth who is excellent and not expensive. I also have another good one who my mum used in Urmston who again i would highly recommenf and cost 1/3 of the price. Lovely people and take their jobs very personally!


Originally posted by cyclops3
Nicky

Thanks for this bit of info.
I am dismayed as I am beginning the process of applying for Oz through 4 Corners in Cheshire.
4 Corners proudly state that 99% (or whatever it is) of people applying through them were successsful.
Do you think that they are just slow or really don't care about service and their reputation once they your money is in the bank ?

PS / I hope you do get a positive result soon !

Mike

cyclops3 Jan 23rd 2003 12:05 am

Re: migration agents uk
 
Thanks for this
I am committed already - signed up as 4 C were recommended by someone at work.
I have taken notes however and thanks for this info - at least making a pest of myself from the beginning may have the desired effect !
I sympathise with your experience - it takes unnecessary chunks out of your life and I agree it was unforgivable.
Do you mind if I bother you for the details for the Perth and Urmstom ? Hope it doesn't come to that !

Good Luck



Originally posted by Grub
I am sure that we have been unfortunate but considering they have affected both my sisters and my case it seems a bit coincidental. My sister went through sponsored (my uncle has been in Perth for 30 years). She needed 2 yrs out of the previous three in employment before lodgment. As she had been travelling this would have meant she satisified the criteria in April 01 but Helen Brereton (both our case officer) lodged them in Dec 00. When they had their case opened in July they had an outright rejection. They have now had to pay a fortune to get a 457 which means they still dont have PR. When we had our case opened in Dec we were told by the High Commission that we were short of 12 months experience. Again- Helen had lodged us without all the info that we needed. We (after a 2 year wait) are now at the back of yet another 3 month postal queue. We have sacked the agents who are refusing a refund because as far s they are concerned they have done a job. Well all i can say is if i did that bad a job then i would be more than happy to refund my client to save embarrassment.

Just watch them and if you can change agents (ie get your money back ) then do. They are expensive and as far as we are concernced- a waste of money.

PS they are also terrible at correspondence. After lodgement in May 01 we never heard from them again. We have done virtually all the work oursleves. Including phoning the HC, getting out own medicals and police checks done etc.

I am sorry that i cant be more positive but they have screwed with our lives and i find that unforgivable.

If you can change agents my sister used a fab one in Perth who is excellent and not expensive. I also have another good one who my mum used in Urmston who again i would highly recommenf and cost 1/3 of the price. Lovely people and take their jobs very personally!

tipper Jan 23rd 2003 2:58 am

good un.
 
hi try ian harrop i wouild recomend him all day.
website ianharrop.co.uk.

cheers tipper.

JayneTee Jan 23rd 2003 9:01 am

Re: good un.
 

Originally posted by tipper
hi try ian harrop i wouild recomend him all day.
website ianharrop.co.uk.

cheers tipper.
We'd recommend him as well!

copykat Feb 4th 2003 5:39 am

I've just signed with 4corners (end of January), and paid my £3000.
They seem very professional, and offered me a full refund if I did not get the visa.
I have since changed my destination from Oz to NZ, due the hideous wait to get to Oz. They did not have a problem with that.
However, they did say that I would have have a job prior to going, but they thought that they would be able to arrange this.

I'd be interested to hear about any problems or success stories with 4Corners. It would give me something to look out for!!

fishyben Feb 4th 2003 5:58 am


I've just signed with 4corners (end of January), and paid my £3000.
does that £3000 include the costs of the various forms, or is it just their fees ? and did they want all the dosh upfront ?

copykat Feb 4th 2003 6:13 am


Originally posted by fishyben
does that £3000 include the costs of the various forms, or is it just their fees ? and did they want all the dosh upfront ?
That is just their fee. Not sure what what forms it includes, but I still have to pay the ACS for my skills assessment.
I paid upfront & got 10% discount. Else you must pay over 6 months.

fishyben Feb 4th 2003 7:03 am

:eek: £3000 @"%£~# :eek: thats seems alot just for fees, I went with Ian Harrop, his fee is £1050 also with 100% refund if you dont get in, + TRA and Aplication form fees are on top.

ace ventura Feb 4th 2003 7:03 am

Re: migration agents uk
 

Originally posted by ellen1
hi
does anyone know of any good migrant agencies in or around Nottingham uk? will they give free advise if your not planning on applying till next year?
cheers
hi ellen,i applied last year with WWW.globalvisas.co.uk they seem pretty good,plus they do no visa no fee:)

Grub Feb 4th 2003 8:07 am

That's interesting- I paid 4 C up front and got no discount whatsoever and we are still waiting after paying them in July 2000 (yes- that's 2000). We were also NOT offered the No win No Fee that you were lucky enough to get.

I'm not bitter.

Nicky


Originally posted by copykat
That is just their fee. Not sure what what forms it includes, but I still have to pay the ACS for my skills assessment.
I paid upfront & got 10% discount. Else you must pay over 6 months.

denhim Feb 4th 2003 8:42 am

im using http://tig.net.au/contactus.html they`re based in Perth and ive found them extremely helpful and cheaper than some u.k agents.

heading downunder 2002 Feb 4th 2003 10:29 am

I am astounded at the price some of these agents are charging. We used Ian Harrop and Associates, Zeno to be precise and he was fantastic. Including all our TRA assesment fees and application fee came to no more than about £2,000.

pudnut Feb 4th 2003 6:49 pm

I'm using Wessex Migration based in the south of the UK and I'm very impressed with them. They have a vast knowledge of the procedures and nothing is too much effort for them, I'm frequently phoning or emailing them with queries and they always have the time to talk to me. I have found them very efficient. Because they are a fairly small firm you get the personal touch and their fees are very reasonable compared to what other people are charging.

Iwould higly recommend them.

Pudnut

Alan Collett Feb 4th 2003 7:57 pm

Me too ...!

Best regards.





Originally posted by heading downunder 2002
I am astounded at the price some of these agents are charging. <snip>

Alan Collett Feb 4th 2003 8:12 pm

I've never heard of them before ... do they have a website? Is the agent registered?

Just as an observation here, and recognising that not all Registered Agents are professional, I would always encourage someone who is considering appointing an agent to engage a person or company who is Registered with the Migration Agents Registration Authority or who has a significant amount of experience dealing with visa applications from the other side of the desk (ie with the Australian Department of Immigration). And that means the person handling your visa application at all times should have these skills - it is not unknown for matters to be delegated within certain companies to those less well versed in what is required in terms of a visa application.

So ask who will be preparing your visa application (and skills assessment application if relevant), who will be dealing with any queries on your skills assessment and visa applications, and for details of his/her qualifications and previous experience in these areas.

Registered Agents in particular are required to attend courses to maintain their technical competence, and to acquire sufficient points under a system of Continuing Professional Development to enable them to re-register with the MARA each year. Those who aren't registered have no such requirement, and as such there might be a concern that they are not fully up to date with the regular and ongoing changes to Migration Law and procedures.

Best regards.




Originally posted by pudnut
I'm using Wessex Migration based in the south of the UK and I'm very impressed with them. They have a vast knowledge of the procedures and nothing is too much effort for them, I'm frequently phoning or emailing them with queries and they always have the time to talk to me. I have found them very efficient. Because they are a fairly small firm you get the personal touch and their fees are very reasonable compared to what other people are charging.

Iwould higly recommend them.

Pudnut

kevmitch Feb 4th 2003 10:34 pm


Originally posted by Alan Collett
Me too ...!

Best regards.
Don't be getting any ideas Alan !!!

Seroiusly though, this sounds very expensive for the service (sic) offered. What may be sensible for new migrants on this site would be a comparison of costs for various classes of visa by various Migration Agents.

If anyone wants to let me know what they've been charged and/or quoted I'll happily collate the info onto a spreadsheet for future use (send a personal e-mail if you prefer - that way keeping client confidentiality intact)

Kev

wolfens_wife Feb 5th 2003 10:06 pm


Originally posted by Grub
That's interesting- I paid 4 C up front and got no discount whatsoever and we are still waiting after paying them in July 2000 (yes- that's 2000). We were also NOT offered the No win No Fee that you were lucky enough to get.

I'm not bitter.

Nicky
We also are using 4 corners. I think because they advertise in newspapers etc. We all get roped in thinking :
"Wow a new life in OZ £3000 is nothing to pay" .....If only we had known
:rolleyes:
After reading this forum 3 months after applying for PR we realised we have been diddled. My main concern now is that they get us there. For £3000 we didn't even get a crummy Christmas Card!
My husband (wolfen) phoned them up and told them to look at this forum to show them what a bad reputation they had. They didn't even know this forum (apparently) existed. So far fingers crossed they have been very good. We have warned them though that they have a reputation of messing things up and we dont want to be one of them!!!
For straight forward applications I would advise to do it yourself.

Cheers

Mich
ps. Good luck Grub with new baby... our 3rd boy is due in 5 weeks :scared:

Grub Feb 6th 2003 8:18 am

And I bet you dont look like the picture!!! (or not anymore anyway!). I am stocking up on preggas clothes from Next Directory at the mo as they could be foul in Oz!

Re 4 Corners- they are lying b*... as I got into heaps of trouble as they saw my postings on the website and figured that Grub from Cheshire was me (at first they thought it was my sis and husband but they havent figured out their posting name yet!!). Anyway--- I just hope that they have learnt their lessons from us (mind you we are still 3 grand down and no visa!)

Best wishes

Nicky

ps. Good luck Grub with new baby... our 3rd boy is due in 5 weeks :scared: [/QUOTE]
:mad:

OH yeh - and good luck with the bambino- 3 boys- aaaaaaaaah!

madmorgans Feb 6th 2003 8:31 am

Hi Grub...


Congrats on the bub!!

I was pregnant with my daughter when we went on holiday last year (Melbourne).
Bump grew by the day so had a need for new clothes.. Myers had an excellent range of clothes for those with bumps and also MUCH cheaper than here, buy a few from next and then treat yourself - you deserve it!!

Hope you are with your family soon.

Love simone, phil & erin x

Grub Feb 6th 2003 8:34 am

Cheers- I was wondering if they sold ok stuff over there- right- I wont buy too much this end then- it's way too big for me anyway!! (mind you the wine belly fills it quite nice!)

Good luck with Melbourne- that was my first choice too!

Love

Nic, Dean and Kaelan


Originally posted by madmorgans
Hi Grub...


Congrats on the bub!!

I was pregnant with my daughter when we went on holiday last year (Melbourne).
Bump grew by the day so had a need for new clothes.. Myers had an excellent range of clothes for those with bumps and also MUCH cheaper than here, buy a few from next and then treat yourself - you deserve it!!

Hope you are with your family soon.

Love simone, phil & erin x

hibee Feb 6th 2003 9:00 am

Four Corners
 
Hi Guys,
Just thought i would put my tuppence worth in about Four Corners ,
At first they seemed very proffesional and we were impressed
We approached them as they had a small office in Edinburgh around march 2000 . we got all the info from them regarding how to do the work references etc , trade assesment.
After we filled in all the forms and got my trade assesed all they were interested was the money , they booked us in with a financial consultatnt in jan 2001 , which was a con to get you to take out life insurance .
We wre stuck in the queue at London due to IT Fast Tracking like a lot of people and never heard anything from 4c during this period , after a lot of frustrating phone calls we blew our top with them.
this made no difference as they had our money!!!!!!!!!!!
Around March 2001 i discovered this website and got more in info in about a week than i did from 4c .
As you will all know it can be a very frustrating time and 4c were still no help when i called .
i eventually phoned Australia house myself and got things moving
although all the paperwpork had to go via 4c .
I wish i had know about this website earlier as i would have saved a fortune.
As speaking to people who immigrated at the same time as me none of them paid anything near what i was charged by 4c

SO MY ADVICE IS LOOK NO FURTHER THAN GO MATILDA OR ANY OTHER ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED DO NOT USE 4C!!!!!!!!!!

Grub Feb 6th 2003 9:05 am

Re: Four Corners
 
]
Hi Hibee

How's Geelong (I used to live in Corio)
Thanks for your view on 4C. Just out of interest did you compain about them. I am planning to as I feel if they continue to get away with this then more people will be in this web site for years to come saying the same thing. Your observations on 4C were the same as us. We lodged May 2001 though they had all our money in July 2000 (we paid up front). I am very angry and bitter about the way we were treated- ie take the money and run.

PM me please

Thanks

Nicky
]

Originally posted by hibee
Hi Guys,
Just thought i would put my tuppence worth in about Four Corners ,
At first they seemed very proffesional and we were impressed
We approached them as they had a small office in Edinburgh around march 2000 . we got all the info from them regarding how to do the work references etc , trade assesment.
After we filled in all the forms and got my trade assesed all they were interested was the money , they booked us in with a financial consultatnt in jan 2001 , which was a con to get you to take out life insurance .
We wre stuck in the queue at London due to IT Fast Tracking like a lot of people and never heard anything from 4c during this period , after a lot of frustrating phone calls we blew our top with them.
this made no difference as they had our money!!!!!!!!!!!
Around March 2001 i discovered this website and got more in info in about a week than i did from 4c .
As you will all know it can be a very frustrating time and 4c were still no help when i called .
i eventually phoned Australia house myself and got things moving
although all the paperwpork had to go via 4c .
I wish i had know about this website earlier as i would have saved a fortune.
As speaking to people who immigrated at the same time as me none of them paid anything near what i was charged by 4c

SO MY ADVICE IS LOOK NO FURTHER THAN GO MATILDA OR ANY OTHER ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED DO NOT USE 4C!!!!!!!!!!

madmorgans Feb 6th 2003 9:12 pm

Surely you guys could all try to sue Four Corners, you have obviously signed some sort of contract with them.

Go for it, get some legal aid and sue the asses off them.

And remember to let Watchdog know, they might get your money back......fingers crossed.

Love simone

Grub Feb 8th 2003 2:48 am

I have threatened them with it Simone but after all the hassle we have had I just dont know whether I can be bothered. Also- it may be tricky as we are hopin to leave UK in March. I think I will phone my solicitor and enquire though as it irks me enormously that they get away with such a rip off. I think cos you see the big ads in Australia News etc you think they must be good. I just wish we had shopped around or found this website first!

Live and learn!


Originally posted by madmorgans
Surely you guys could all try to sue Four Corners, you have obviously signed some sort of contract with them.

Go for it, get some legal aid and sue the asses off them.

And remember to let Watchdog know, they might get your money back......fingers crossed.

Love simone

dmf Feb 8th 2003 4:57 am

We would also recommend Ian Harrop - has been very helpful.

thewoods Feb 9th 2003 7:13 am

Hi
We are using Sharon Rakus from Kensington
so far we have not had a problem - she charges 1200 in different stages you can get her on [email protected]


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