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MartinLuther Mar 19th 2010 10:38 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 8433339)
Thought you meant that. And I think that is a bit mean me old mucker.:rofl:

UK - longer days. Even if the temp was 13-16 in both, the temperature would hit that for many more hours in the UK June than in the Melbourne June, and the Melbourne night could be a lot colder. Nice try!

Sorry - didn't know what came over me, knew it was just for kicks.:blink::p

But in the grand scheme of things it's about the closest match :D

BadgeIsBack Mar 19th 2010 10:45 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8433336)
I don't think 32C days are referred to as 'warm'.

London has a July average max of 22C & Melbourne a January average of 26C - but Melbourne's warmer months last a lot longer.

This January in Melbourne was average 27.5C.

Sure the average is an average. But many days are way over 27 odd - (naturally).


Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8433336)
I don't think 32C days are referred to as 'warm'.

Are you saying that it would not be considered hot or warm? What I am saying is that it is understated...which is where we might be in agreement.

Quite often on the forecast, a day - I can't remember the exact band now - this is where I get myself in trouble - which might be 30 something will be described as a warm day. The word hot is not bandied about willy-nilly is what I am saying.

In the UK anything over 30 would be a rarity and considered hot (despite scorchers in recent years) and your grandmother would be checking her will and her money in her tin under the bed. It would be all over the newspapers and every news photographer would be standing by every public fountain in Hyde Park for the first opportunity to get their bikini shot for the day.

BadgeIsBack Mar 19th 2010 10:48 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 8433348)
But in the grand scheme of things it's about the closest match :D

Welll.......actually...see what you mean.....you can't match a 22 degree day with a 32 degree day can you...

But you can match the mid teens max....I'll give it to you!

manx2010 Mar 19th 2010 11:53 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 
Am really worried now that I might have made a mistake by choosing Melbourne, the weather sounds cold. I would hate to move thousands of miles from cold & wet to another version of cold and wet! Please someone be more clear, is Melbourne as cold as described here?

bcworld Mar 19th 2010 12:00 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8433486)
Am really worried now that I might have made a mistake by choosing Melbourne, the weather sounds cold. I would hate to move thousands of miles from cold & wet to another version of cold and wet! Please someone be more clear, is Melbourne as cold as described here?

Melbourne is neither cold or wet - it has half the rainfall of Brisbane.

Yes it has some unpleasant days - so does everywhere.

Melbourne has what feels to me like a 'real' summer - with long warm light evenings to go with it.

MartinLuther Mar 19th 2010 12:51 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8433486)
Am really worried now that I might have made a mistake by choosing Melbourne, the weather sounds cold. I would hate to move thousands of miles from cold & wet to another version of cold and wet! Please someone be more clear, is Melbourne as cold as described here?

It gets cool in winter. It also tends to cool off at night. The number of days requiring a heavy coat has been about 10 in the last 6 years. Normally in winter you'd be okay in a fleece. You will need a duvet for nights for at least 3/4 of the year. You can get very hot days in summer but again they're not the predominant feature of summer. Most summer days you're looking at high teens maybe low 30s. But night time temps will be high teens. In winter you will be looking at high teens for the day and high single digits at night. In Autumn the days will mostly be low 20s day low teens at night and something similar for spring but with more rainy days. We need more rainy days. Super hot days (high 30s and 40s) are nearly always low humidity. (I think I've experienced 1 exception to this in the last 6 years.)

The weather is changeable but not unpredictable. You can get a huge variation of temps between days and even within a day. I've seen the cool change drop the temps by more than 22 degrees in about 2 hours. One day may be 42 the next may be 22.

manx2010 Mar 19th 2010 1:14 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 
Oh that's not so bad. I guess cold is relative; it must feel very cold for any one from other parts of oz but those temperatures aren't so low compared to UK. I know we rain for sustainance of life but i've just about had enough of rain!

MartinLuther Mar 19th 2010 1:18 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8433607)
Oh that's not so bad. I guess cold is relative; it must feel very cold for any one from other parts of oz but those temperatures aren't so low compared to UK. I know we rain for sustainance of life but i've just about had enough of rain!

It may sound weird but generally most people* are pleased when it rains here. And we're not all farmers! :D

* Obviously stuckinblighty is not in this camp :D

MartinLuther Mar 19th 2010 1:24 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 
A bizarre feature that I've seen a few times here (about 5 or 6 in the last 6 years) is where a warm change comes in the evening. A few years back New Year's Eve was in the high 20s but from about 6pm the temps rose, hitting 40 about mid-night. :blink:

BadgeIsBack Mar 19th 2010 4:50 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8433486)
Am really worried now that I might have made a mistake by choosing Melbourne, the weather sounds cold. I would hate to move thousands of miles from cold & wet to another version of cold and wet! Please someone be more clear, is Melbourne as cold as described here?

It's cold as in, 'oh I am standing outside in my shirt and jeans and I think I need to put on a jumper/fleece'.

It's not cold as in, - 'I'll literally get frostbite if I stand here too long'. It's not bone-chillingly cold - if it feels that way, it's because your metabolism has not kicked in, it's 6am and you got out of bed only 30mins before.

I've never used a winter coat - only at stadia. Never used a scarf, nor gloves.

29palms Mar 19th 2010 10:05 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8433486)
Am really worried now that I might have made a mistake by choosing Melbourne, the weather sounds cold. I would hate to move thousands of miles from cold & wet to another version of cold and wet! Please someone be more clear, is Melbourne as cold as described here?

Jesus man, where on earth do you think you are moving to?

Did you see the news last February, Bush fires swept through the outskirts of Melbourne with devistating effects - -Now does that sound like it would happen in Barron in Furness? Melbourne was the hottest place on earth that day 46.4 Degrees! This happens regulary here in Victoria subject to extreme temperatures and dry conditions, the only other places on the planet similar are California and Greece.

When people say Melbourne is Cold, they refer to the fact on Australian standards in Winter, Melbourne is gernerally colder than most other cities, but that would be comparible to a spanish Winter not a British one.

Have a look at our weather since Nov-March

November Average - 27.1
December Average - 25.9
Jan Average - 27.5
Feb Average - 28.2
March Average (to date) - 26.8

These are just averages, every one of these months will see heatwaves where temp can be in the high 30's or early 40's for a few days. but also what Melbourne is famous, by the next day cooler days can kick in where the temp will probably be in the low 20's which is cooler (not cold), belive me it can be a relief sometimes.

If you want year round warm weather I suggest you move to Brisbane, but be aware it has far less character than melbourne as the change in seasons refelects on the personality of a city!

BadgeIsBack Mar 19th 2010 10:21 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by 29palms (Post 8434173)
Jesus man, where on earth do you think you are moving to?

Did you see the news last February, Bush fires swept through the outskirts of Melbourne with devistating effects - -Now does that sound like it would happen in Barron in Furness? Melbourne was the hottest place on earth that day 46.4 Degrees! This happens regulary here in Victoria subject to extreme temperatures and dry conditions, the only other places on the planet similar are California and Greece.

When people say Melbourne is Cold, they refer to the fact on Australian standards in Winter, Melbourne is gernerally colder than most other cities, but that would be comparible to a spanish Winter not a British one.

Have a look at our weather since Nov-March

November Average - 27.1
December Average - 25.9
Jan Average - 27.5
Feb Average - 28.2
March Average (to date) - 26.8

These are just averages, every one of these months will see heatwaves where temp can be in the high 30's or early 40's for a few days. but also what Melbourne is famous, by the next day cooler days can kick in where the temp will probably be in the low 20's which is cooler (not cold), belive me it can be a relief sometimes.

If you want year round warm weather I suggest you move to Brisbane, but be aware it has far less character than melbourne as the change in seasons refelects on the personality of a city!

I reckon he's got the idea now.

bcworld Mar 19th 2010 10:57 pm

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by 29palms (Post 8434173)
November Average - 27.1
December Average - 25.9
Jan Average - 27.5
Feb Average - 28.2
March Average (to date) - 26.8

Worth pointing out that at least 3 of these are warmer than (long term) average.

And seeing as he was interested in cold you could give him the rest of the last 12 months to complete the picture.

Avg Max/Min

October - 19.9 / 10.6
September - 18.6 / 9.9
August - 16.9 / 9.2
July - 15.2 / 8.2
June - 15.6 / 7.7
May - 17.9 / 9.6
April - 21.0 / 11.6

...6 months below 20C, if that's your idea of cold...head north!

manx2010 Mar 20th 2010 3:15 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by 29palms (Post 8434173)
Jesus man, where on earth do you think you are moving to?

Did you see the news last February, Bush fires swept through the outskirts of Melbourne with devistating effects - -Now does that sound like it would happen in Barron in Furness? Melbourne was the hottest place on earth that day 46.4 Degrees! This happens regulary here in Victoria subject to extreme temperatures and dry conditions, the only other places on the planet similar are California and Greece.

When people say Melbourne is Cold, they refer to the fact on Australian standards in Winter, Melbourne is gernerally colder than most other cities, but that would be comparible to a spanish Winter not a British one.

Have a look at our weather since Nov-March

November Average - 27.1
December Average - 25.9
Jan Average - 27.5
Feb Average - 28.2
March Average (to date) - 26.8

These are just averages, every one of these months will see heatwaves where temp can be in the high 30's or early 40's for a few days. but also what Melbourne is famous, by the next day cooler days can kick in where the temp will probably be in the low 20's which is cooler (not cold), belive me it can be a relief sometimes.

If you want year round warm weather I suggest you move to Brisbane, but be aware it has far less character than melbourne as the change in seasons refelects on the personality of a city!

can't be any clearer than this! It makes me wonder why people, especially those from uk make melly sound horribly chilly.I rest my case and wont listen to any more negative comments about the weather in mel. I'll wait and see for myself!
By the way,am female in case the comment "...he's got the idea..." was referring to me!

MartinLuther Mar 20th 2010 9:07 am

Re: Melbourne or Brisbane
 

Originally Posted by manx2010 (Post 8434605)
can't be any clearer than this! It makes me wonder why people, especially those from uk make melly sound horribly chilly.I rest my case and wont listen to any more negative comments about the weather in mel. I'll wait and see for myself!
By the way,am female in case the comment "...he's got the idea..." was referring to me!

I think it comes as a surprise to some that it can be quite cool in winter. The same peeps are probably surprised that Nice in the south of France can have ice on the roads in winter. Which (to them) makes it the same weather as the UK.


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