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We are currently living in Sydney and looking at a potential move to Melbourne.
We are looking at areas around Melbourne where I can get a house for <$500k: Looking at 3/4 bedroom house that doesn't require too much work/modernisation, i.e. can move straight in. Not too fussed about land, just want an outdoor eating/patio area and enough space for a trampoline. Though prefer to stay away from townhouse and the strata School is important, so a decent public school not too far away that has before/after school club. Would be nice to have parks/ovals/guides or the like not too far away for 7yr old daughter. Got a car so shops at least 10-15mins drive away. Near transport links to the city as want to stay a one car family and get train to work. Would be nice to be less than an hours drive away from a decent beach. We have been looking at price only and the following areas are within budget: Laverton, Hoppers Crossing, Werribee, Sunshine, Ardeer, Deer Park,Melton,Albion, St Albans, Can anyone suggest any others and give any feedback good or bad on the ones above. Thanks, WW |
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St Albans is potentially the worst Suburb in Australia and all the surburbs you mentioned are awful places. There the bottem of the barrel in Melbourne. In Australia and the prices of Melbourne property IMO are very little compared to sydney. You either have the money to be in a good area to send your kids your school or you don't. Thats the Australian dream 2000 mate.
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592672)
St Albans is potentially the worst Suburb in Australia and all the surburbs you mentioned are awful places. There the bottem of the barrel in Melbourne. In Australia and the prices of Melbourne property IMO are very little compared to sydney. You either have the money to be in a good area to send your kids your school or you don't. Thats the Australian dream 2000 mate.
Tip try around here, It's definitely the best part of Sunshine. http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=C Dammit link Wrong.... type in Cornwall rd/Devonshire rd/Monash st's Sunshine in the above and look around that area..... have a look at street view for a feel of the area... nice tree lined streets. Tricky part will be the School, I'm sure there would be at least one decent school there. |
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Sunshine is roamed by vietnamese gangs, St Albions has the highest gun overnship in Australia 1/2 houses apparently, Werribee has one of the most awful bogan cultures in Australia. and Hoppers crossing is full of Indian students who fear for their lives. Been some real high profile gang rapes in the areas that were mentioned recently as well. Also all these areas you mentioned haev about 100 000 somalian refugees who according to a police officer I spoke to at Uni last year all arm themsevles with firearms.
Honestly day or night I wouldn't visit most of the areas that the OP mentioned. As someone said though sunshien is probably the best if their were a best one. St Albans to Broadmeadows imo is the worst part of Australian cities. Reduce the size of your house and go for location like the rest of the country is and is being forced to doing these days. Melbourne is just as expensive as Sydney the price of property and cost of living are no different. You go to Melbourne for the culture and sports, you don't go there because Sydney is too expensive and you think you can get a better value for money because you won't |
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The Ozzie locals call it scumshine, personally I have no comment.
I think you could buy in nicer areas, even in the new estates you could pick something up for $500k, look at Point Cook area. PC is not everyones taste, some hate new builds (Mc Mansions), some think it's too flat, others think its just boring, but personally I think it is 100% better than the suburbs you have on your list and there are some good primary schools around. How far do you want to be from the city, if you are happy with an hours commute you could find yourself in a very nice suburb for your $500k. |
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592755)
Also all these areas you mentioned haev about 100 000 somalian refugees who according to a police officer I spoke to at Uni last year all arm themsevles with firearms.
Exaggerating much? A 2006 census by the Victorian Multicultural Commission found there were 4,313 Somalia-born residents in Australia, with 2624 in Victoria. And even if Somali refugees had taken every single place on the humanitarian program since then and all of them had settled in your list of suburbs there still wouldn't be anything close to 100,000. In 2008-9 there were 456 offshore visas granted to Somalis. |
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I remember reading something that in 2009 they canned the quota after it hit 150 000
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592835)
I remember reading something that in 2009 they canned the quota after it hit 150 000
Humanitarian Program figures 2006–07 13 017 2007–08 13 014 2008–09 13 507 2009–10 13 750 ...less than half of those numbers are refugees. |
Re: Melbourne
Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592835)
I remember reading something that in 2009 they canned the quota after it hit 150 000
I reckon the whole refugee quota is no more than 15k/year. |
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I'll look for it when I have time. I spoek to a police officer who told me that around 200 000 live in that area. An annual quote of 15 000 is bullshti though. It's a lot mroe than that!
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592856)
I'll look for it when I have time. I spoek to a police officer who told me that around 200 000 live in that area. An annual quote of 15 000 is bullshti though. It's a lot mroe than that!
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Re: Melbourne
Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592755)
Sunshine is roamed by vietnamese gangs, St Albions has the highest gun overnship in Australia 1/2 houses apparently, Werribee has one of the most awful bogan cultures in Australia. and Hoppers crossing is full of Indian students who fear for their lives. Been some real high profile gang rapes in the areas that were mentioned recently as well. Also all these areas you mentioned haev about 100 000 somalian refugees who according to a police officer I spoke to at Uni last year all arm themsevles with firearms.
Honestly day or night I wouldn't visit most of the areas that the OP mentioned. As someone said though sunshien is probably the best if their were a best one. St Albans to Broadmeadows imo is the worst part of Australian cities. Reduce the size of your house and go for location like the rest of the country is and is being forced to doing these days. Melbourne is just as expensive as Sydney the price of property and cost of living are no different. You go to Melbourne for the culture and sports, you don't go there because Sydney is too expensive and you think you can get a better value for money because you won't I've got friends that live in Sunshine, we got out there a lot, never seen these Vietnamese gangs that your alluding too. I do agree St Albans is bad though. The worst suburb in the North is either Dallas or Coolaroo, although the Worst Suburb in Melbourne is either Noble Park or Doveton .... they probably all interchange. I'd give the title of the worst places to live in Victoria to places like Moe and Benalla. Benalla has close to the worst school in Victoria. There's no more than 20,000 Somalians in the whole of Australia, so the 100,000 that you quote is hopefully a typo. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111118108007 |
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592755)
Sunshine is roamed by vietnamese gangs, St Albions has the highest gun overnship in Australia 1/2 houses apparently, Werribee has one of the most awful bogan cultures in Australia. and Hoppers crossing is full of Indian students who fear for their lives. Been some real high profile gang rapes in the areas that were mentioned recently as well. Also all these areas you mentioned haev about 100 000 somalian refugees who according to a police officer I spoke to at Uni last year all arm themsevles with firearms.
Honestly day or night I wouldn't visit most of the areas that the OP mentioned. As someone said though sunshien is probably the best if their were a best one. St Albans to Broadmeadows imo is the worst part of Australian cities. Reduce the size of your house and go for location like the rest of the country is and is being forced to doing these days. Melbourne is just as expensive as Sydney the price of property and cost of living are no different. You go to Melbourne for the culture and sports, you don't go there because Sydney is too expensive and you think you can get a better value for money because you won't |
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Tip to OP try Glenroy, and around Glenroy West Primary, thats definitely a good school. You should be able to buy something around there for 500K.
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You didnt mention how far from the CBD you would prefer to be, but what about:
Ferntree gully Upwey Lilydale (just over an hour to the beach) Belgrave/Tecoma About an hour travel to the CBD. All have stations with excellent access to the CBD, good schools, plenty of open spaces, play areas, etc etc. Large shopping centres close by, and you can find something quite nice for the max 500k bracket. heres one in Upwey http://www.realestate.com.au/propert...pwey-106484658 and this one is down the road from us to give you an example of moving just a bit further out. http://www.realestate.com.au/propert...bulk-106505224 It is Monbulk, so you would need to have 2 cars, but you get a lot more bang for your buck up this way, and this house is 2 minutes from the primary school. |
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 8592894)
I've lived in the Northern Subs for 30 years now, Broadmeadows is nowhere near as rough as it used to be. Between St Albans and Broadmeadows are places Like Maribyrnong, the Maribyrnong river part of Avondale Heights, Essendon Strathmore, Oak Park and then Broadmeadows.... of which Oak Park is part off. Tullamarine and particuarly Niddrie are both OK suburbs as well.
I've got friends that live in Sunshine, we got out there a lot, never seen these Vietnamese gangs that your alluding too. I do agree St Albans is bad though. The worst suburb in the North is either Dallas or Coolaroo, although the Worst Suburb in Melbourne is either Noble Park or Doveton .... they probably all interchange. I'd give the title of the worst places to live in Victoria to places like Moe and Benalla. Benalla has close to the worst school in Victoria. There's no more than 20,000 Somalians in the whole of Australia, so the 100,000 that you quote is hopefully a typo. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111118108007 I'm just going on what I was told. There is over 20 000 in Perth now so considering Melbournes size of almost 5 million including greater Melbourne its reasonable I think. But a alwasy I'm happy to be proven wrong. Also comparing the suburbs to listed to the suburbs of the OP is ludicrious and totally different to living in that Area. It's a different world Secondly how can you possibe reccommend these suburbs to anyone. |
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592994)
I'm just going on what I was told. There is over 20 000 in Perth now so considering Melbournes size of almost 5 million including greater Melbourne its reasonable I think. But a alwasy I'm happy to be proven wrong.
Also comparing the suburbs to listed to the suburbs of the OP is ludicrious and totally different to living in that Area. It's a different world Secondly how can you possibe reccommend these suburbs to anyone. Altona is missing off of the list as well, if you can get as close to the beach as possible then thats not a bad area either.... try around Cherry Lake. Niddrie is almost an upmarket suburb... especially for the North, and geographically smack in the middle of St Albans and Broadmeadows. |
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Thanks all for your comments, certainly given us plenty to look at.
The areas we have found are basically (following train line): Newport to Werribee Sunshine to Melton Sunshine to Sydenham Glenroy to Broadmeadows Coburg to Uppfield Reservoir to Epping Rosanna to Greensbrough Heatherdale to Lilydale/Belgrave Noble Park to Dandenong Carrum to Aspendale |
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Might be worth having a look at South Frankston or Mount Eliza?
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Try Taylors Lakes and surrounding suburbs.
Very nice suburb, peaceful and quiet with a huge shopping complex- Watergarden Shopping Mall.:) See link: http://britvics.org/topic/97121/?author=18180 http://localvoices.realestate.com.au...lakes/overview http://www.*************/forum/victor...melbourne.html http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...3031435AAX1vwp |
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Originally Posted by Weebie
(Post 8592994)
I'm just going on what I was told. There is over 20 000 in Perth now so considering Melbournes size of almost 5 million including greater Melbourne its reasonable I think. But a alwasy I'm happy to be proven wrong.
Also comparing the suburbs to listed to the suburbs of the OP is ludicrious and totally different to living in that Area. It's a different world Secondly how can you possibe reccommend these suburbs to anyone. |
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8597704)
Doveton is bad due to it's low socio-economic status. It's not necessarily the unsafest suburb if that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by knn
(Post 8597698)
Try Taylors Lakes and surrounding suburbs.
Very nice suburb, peaceful and quiet with a huge shopping complex- Watergarden Shopping Mall.:) See link: http://britvics.org/topic/97121/?author=18180 http://localvoices.realestate.com.au...lakes/overview http://www.*************/forum/victor...melbourne.html http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...3031435AAX1vwp |
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