immortalbeast

Hi,

Decided on Melbourne or Perth to emigrate to but have a dilema.

I am MCSE trained (microsoft certified systems engineer) and am going to get training to be a fully qualified electrician (always wanted to).

Which of these are in more demand in either perth or melbourne?

Also which is the better paid and more secure?

Matt

Wendy

Where are you going to train to be an electrician, the UK or Australia?

immortalbeast

Well was thinking of the uk , but would in australia. How would i be able to get over there to do the training though?

I have a partner and 2 kids so have them to think about.

Matt

Wendy

Well if you do the training in the UK, then you would need 7 years experience to get the ARTC which you'll need for a licence, so based on that I would say anything other than an electrician would be better if you did it there.

Here's the application form for an ARTC just to show you what you would be required to know and do to get it. http://www.workplace.gov.au/NR/rdonl...ck9Oct2007.pdf

When you've got an ARTC, then you also need to go to Tafe and do a wiring rules course, the cost, length and process for this varies from state to state.

If you did the training here, then it would take 4 years.

Based on all that, I would say look at the process and what amount of experience you need for the other job you said

immortalbeast

7 years? They dont make it easy do they?

MCSE needs 6yrs so ive been told (hence the reason i was going to train for electrician as i thought it was only 1yr experience needed.

So what others are there that are on the MODL and only need 1yr experience?

Matt

Wendy

Well, it's only 2 years experience for Vetassess - the body that assesses you for migration so you'd get that no problem (probably). But you would have to undergo more training here to gain a licence as the TRA just wouldn't issue you with an ARTC with only 2 years experience.

Of course just now, no-one is 100% sure that Vetassess applicants will actually still have to do the ARTC, but it's more than 90% likely they will.

I don't know what is on the MODL that would only need 1 year - but veer away from trades related jobs as they will need a lot more than that.

Buzzy--Bee

How many years experience as an MCSE do you have? Do you have a degree?

Buzzy

comet555

It was briefly discussed on another thread.

The poster has just under 1 year of IT experience. They haven't said if they have a degree yet or not, I have asked though.

dshole

I hate to say it, but are you a decent MCSE that is actually interested in IT/Computers? The last thing the IT industry needs is another paper qualified "professional" that does not know the first thing about it.

Geelong Gent

As much as the industry does no longer require geeks who sit in a room all day playing with gadgets but providing no real solutions.

paddyo

Well, now you are looking at it from a personal viewpoint rather than answering the OP's question.
For the OP's question the electrician route would be the longest and, if no experience, the hardest. The MCSE, paper qual or experienced is of no consequence, and would be the shorter and IMHO easier qual to get.
But, its not just the quals here, what the OP requires is the full spec of entry requirements detailing not just the trade quals but relavent experience required as well. If the OP has nil experience in either then he may as well become a sheep shearer!!
As for degrees, of what consequence are they in this question? A degree tells a future employer is that you have been able to study and gain knowledge to a certain standard, it certainly does NOT inform a future employer as to the persons experience or social/employment skill sets.

comet555

The degree is important actually. His education backround will determine whether he can get a positive skills assessment.

kevinbloomfield

MCSE $100 an hour self employed, sparky $60

paddyo

Well if that is correct then fair call. I have a degree but personally find any assosciation with them snobbish and really irritates me that someone, who has had neither opportunity or funds to obtain a degree can be debarred through the narrow thinking of others. My philosophy is experience counts far more than early youthful education, the University of Life is my favorite alumni!! ah...thats better...rant over!!

@boy

Not if it's an MCSE with only 1 years experience in IT.