Just read this in my paper..........
#46
Re: Just read this in my paper..........
Personally it annoyed me because he was obviously playing the system. If he was so good, why didn't he get PR initially. I'd say the reason was because he knew he'd get refused because of the son's health issues. Some would (and did) say good for him but it bugged me. I got over it quite quickly though
I agree there is a shortage of Dr's - however there are many people who have skills and the means with which to look after their disabled children yet they can't even apply for a visa as they'd be told no from the start. This guy bucked the system and got in.
Whilst I love Australia as they look out for the under dog, at the same time a lot of decisions are based on emotional blackmail. I've seen some people get away with all sorts just because they are mates or they have become emotional at their time of need and people feel sorry for them. Maybe I'm too hard, but emotional blackmail don't work for me I'm afraid
#47
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Re: Just read this in my paper..........
As someone who came on a 457, who also has a disabled son, and now has PR I can assure you that 'playing the system' as you like to call it is NOT an option. If DIAC choose to grant you PR in these circumstances its because they think you will be an addition to Australia and not a drain on Australia's precious resources... resources that I contribute substantially too and, in the case of my son, can claim absolutely zero back for at least a decade..
#48
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Now I dont know exactly what KPMG do from day today, however....
I thought these kind of companies in their insolvency practise, official receivership roles and 'winding up' ailing companies or the dreaded 'management consultancy' clearout have made a living out of turfing unfortunate people out on their ar*es with little warning. Whilst hiding behind the label of 'streamlining', 'future proofing the organisation', 'maximising efficiency' etc etc.
I could be wrong..
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I thought these kind of companies in their insolvency practise, official receivership roles and 'winding up' ailing companies or the dreaded 'management consultancy' clearout have made a living out of turfing unfortunate people out on their ar*es with little warning. Whilst hiding behind the label of 'streamlining', 'future proofing the organisation', 'maximising efficiency' etc etc.
I could be wrong..
HKA
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KPMG are a financial audit, tax and advisory service, with quite a few people on 6 figure+ salaries. It is by no means one of companies that are going broke, as they would be in boom times for their field, ie winding up companies. They provide financial adminsitrators and auditors for companies, eg firms such as Kleenmaid, that have gone broke. www.kpmg.com.au
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#49
Re: Just read this in my paper..........
This 1st story about the high flyer sounds a bit iffy. (IMO) maybe her work wasn't up to their standards and this was their way of ousting her.Appears very strange she was escorted off the premises by security staff,but not having been employed in this type of field it may be what happens,sensitive info etc.
Don't think i would have bought a property with only being on a temp visa to start with,sounds like she got too carried away and didn't think of the big picture.She maybe lied in her resume and teleconference interviews as to the depth of her experience,maybe she put herself over as a know it all and rubbed someone up the wrong way,not a team player.Who knows.
My sil emigrated a few years ago,she was head of one dept in sheffield to do with unemployment benefits (dont know exactly,didn't real interest me).She worked for the AU goverment on the case to do with the payout at Joondalup council (apparently his resume was a lie and the amount he was getting as a payout).
Although sil knew the term of her employment was coming to an end she refused point blank to look for something lower,it had to be same salary etc.No looking at different states either.She sat at home until she was forced to go back to UK because of lack of money.
Can't understand why this woman didn't look for something in a different state,maybe she did but it wasn't in her story,you would think they would have brought that fact up also.
Don't think i would have bought a property with only being on a temp visa to start with,sounds like she got too carried away and didn't think of the big picture.She maybe lied in her resume and teleconference interviews as to the depth of her experience,maybe she put herself over as a know it all and rubbed someone up the wrong way,not a team player.Who knows.
My sil emigrated a few years ago,she was head of one dept in sheffield to do with unemployment benefits (dont know exactly,didn't real interest me).She worked for the AU goverment on the case to do with the payout at Joondalup council (apparently his resume was a lie and the amount he was getting as a payout).
Although sil knew the term of her employment was coming to an end she refused point blank to look for something lower,it had to be same salary etc.No looking at different states either.She sat at home until she was forced to go back to UK because of lack of money.
Can't understand why this woman didn't look for something in a different state,maybe she did but it wasn't in her story,you would think they would have brought that fact up also.
#50
Re: Just read this in my paper..........
As someone who came on a 457, who also has a disabled son, and now has PR I can assure you that 'playing the system' as you like to call it is NOT an option. If DIAC choose to grant you PR in these circumstances its because they think you will be an addition to Australia and not a drain on Australia's precious resources... resources that I contribute substantially too and, in the case of my son, can claim absolutely zero back for at least a decade..
#51
Re: Just read this in my paper..........
KPMG are a financial audit, tax and advisory service, with quite a few people on 6 figure+ salaries. It is by no means one of companies that are going broke, as they would be in boom times for their field, ie winding up companies. They provide financial adminsitrators and auditors for companies, eg firms such as Kleenmaid, that have gone broke. www.kpmg.com.au
#52
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This left me, as far as I was concerned, trapped in Oz with no chance of ever being able to stay long term. That absolutely coloured my view of Oz for a long time and not for the better... but my company in Oz have a different way of doing things than the UK arm. They backed me to the hilt, the fact that I was the company employee of the year certainly helped, but they put me in for PR with a promise that I would get it and backed it with letters to DAIC from the CEO, CIO and Head of Operations.
I still had plenty of hoops to jump through before formally submitting the application, with the migration agent saying I should expect it to take two years as a minimum and several appeals to Ministers as well.
In the event it took six days and that includes the weekend. !!
As I said earlier though, we are subject to some pretty severe cost saving measures regarding any costs relating to my sons disabilities. Basically he will be entitled to nothing for a decade after the PR was granted, but that's the same for anybody in this position.
#53
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I came on a 457 for what was supposed to be a temp (two year) assignment with a promise of my job being held open in the UK for my return... no sooner had I arrived in Oz than the UK end of my company renaged on the deal and chopped the entire team I worked with and moved the jobs to India.
This left me, as far as I was concerned, trapped in Oz with no chance of ever being able to stay long term. That absolutely coloured my view of Oz for a long time and not for the better... but my company in Oz have a different way of doing things than the UK arm. They backed me to the hilt, the fact that I was the company employee of the year certainly helped, but they put me in for PR with a promise that I would get it and backed it with letters to DAIC from the CEO, CIO and Head of Operations.
I still had plenty of hoops to jump through before formally submitting the application, with the migration agent saying I should expect it to take two years as a minimum and several appeals to Ministers as well.
In the event it took six days and that includes the weekend. !!
As I said earlier though, we are subject to some pretty severe cost saving measures regarding any costs relating to my sons disabilities. Basically he will be entitled to nothing for a decade after the PR was granted, but that's the same for anybody in this position.
This left me, as far as I was concerned, trapped in Oz with no chance of ever being able to stay long term. That absolutely coloured my view of Oz for a long time and not for the better... but my company in Oz have a different way of doing things than the UK arm. They backed me to the hilt, the fact that I was the company employee of the year certainly helped, but they put me in for PR with a promise that I would get it and backed it with letters to DAIC from the CEO, CIO and Head of Operations.
I still had plenty of hoops to jump through before formally submitting the application, with the migration agent saying I should expect it to take two years as a minimum and several appeals to Ministers as well.
In the event it took six days and that includes the weekend. !!
As I said earlier though, we are subject to some pretty severe cost saving measures regarding any costs relating to my sons disabilities. Basically he will be entitled to nothing for a decade after the PR was granted, but that's the same for anybody in this position.
Glad it worked out for you mate
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Re: Just read this in my paper..........
Looks like a bit of a blackmail attempt to me. Give the government enough bad publicity and they will be forced to let you stay.
IMO you have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. It is unfortunate that she lost her job (for what ever reason??), but that is the risk you take. Nobody owes her anything, she made the decision to come and thus must accept the current situation.
So stop whining, go back to the UK and get on with your life.
IMO you have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. It is unfortunate that she lost her job (for what ever reason??), but that is the risk you take. Nobody owes her anything, she made the decision to come and thus must accept the current situation.
So stop whining, go back to the UK and get on with your life.
#55
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I have to agree with VASH on this its not news that if you lose your 457 job you are sent home.
Besides being sent back to the Uk is not like a death sentence or anything.
"I really don't want to go back for those reasons, and the weather's not great, you are kept indoors so much of the time.
Oh the humanity ... its rain its not f**king lethal ...buy a coat you stupid woman.
Sorry I should stop drinking and take myself to bed.
As for the car sleeping couple they should go cap in hand to the British embassy and ask to be sent home. Failing that go to DIAC and ask to be deported. Once back in the UK they might have a better chance of social assistance.
Besides being sent back to the Uk is not like a death sentence or anything.
"I really don't want to go back for those reasons, and the weather's not great, you are kept indoors so much of the time.
Oh the humanity ... its rain its not f**king lethal ...buy a coat you stupid woman.
Sorry I should stop drinking and take myself to bed.
As for the car sleeping couple they should go cap in hand to the British embassy and ask to be sent home. Failing that go to DIAC and ask to be deported. Once back in the UK they might have a better chance of social assistance.
#56
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Looks like a bit of a blackmail attempt to me. Give the government enough bad publicity and they will be forced to let you stay.
IMO you have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. It is unfortunate that she lost her job (for what ever reason??), but that is the risk you take. Nobody owes her anything, she made the decision to come and thus must accept the current situation.
So stop whining, go back to the UK and get on with your life.
IMO you have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth. It is unfortunate that she lost her job (for what ever reason??), but that is the risk you take. Nobody owes her anything, she made the decision to come and thus must accept the current situation.
So stop whining, go back to the UK and get on with your life.
The legal fact of the matter is that an employer HAS to cover the costs of the return of the 457 sponsored employee to their native country on completion of or termination of employment.