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Old May 22nd 2013, 12:54 pm
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What if you don't die but become incapacitated?

Some suggest, in addition to a will, set up a Living Revocable Trust with a disability clause. http://wills.about.com/od/overviewof...osoftrusts.htm

Is this something appropriate in Australia?

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Old May 22nd 2013, 11:35 pm
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What if you don't die but become incapacitated?

Some suggest, in addition to a will, set up a Living Revocable Trust with a disability clause. http://wills.about.com/od/overviewof...osoftrusts.htm

Is this something appropriate in Australia?
This involves setting up a trust, quite expensive, with annual fees to be considered.
Then of course there will come the question of Capital Gains Tax [CGT] on property if it is sold at any time, as it would no longer come under the provision of CGT free as it is owned by a trust.

Other than that, it is an excellent idea. One I have previously thought about and discounted due to the costs and the CGT implications.

But maybe it is worth more exploration again.
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Old Jun 8th 2013, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by astera
How do joint bank accounts work in Australia? Let's take the "either or" type where one person can deposit/withdraw without the other's signature/approval needed.

In case one person passes away, will the other person automatically become the sole account owner of the funds without the need for any will/estate proceedings?

Here in Singapore it works this way so a lot of people have joint accounts to prevent the other being locked out/having to go through all the painful formalities in case something happens (of course I am aware that if something happens to both then that is a problem).
Depends on state/territory, but in general a joint bank account will automatically pass to the other party without the need for a will.

Other jointly held assets, such as real estate, may also transfer this way, but it depends on whether it's structured as a "joint tenancy" or "tenancy in common". You'd need state-specific legal advice to know more.

Even if some of your assets are held jointly, you still need a will to deal with anything else. You also need to consider guardianship for children and a living will to deal with medical issues if you become incapacitated. Again - a lot of this is going to be state-specific.

If you have a will in Singapore, it may be acceptable in the Australian state courts as an out-of-jurisdiction basis (again - discuss with lawyer) but as soon as you re-establish residence in Australia, you should normally replace it with a state/territory will. If you are leaving assets in Singapore, you should check if Singapore will accept an Australian will for probate. If so, you should not normally need to keep a parallel will in Singapore.
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Old Jun 9th 2013, 4:50 am
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My parents had a joint account where either could sign. When Dad died, Mum went to the bank with his Death Cert and had the account name changed to just her name. She didn't have to do anything else. She was his sole beneficiary in his Will anyway, but it meant that she still had access to money with no issues. They were advised to do this by the solicitor who drew up their wills. This was in 2008 in WA.
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