I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Apr 27th 2005, 2:08 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by BAY
Yes, BUT he didn't have them and the intelligence information said there was NO concrete evidence that he had them. Despite this he LIED to parliament and to us that he had WMD that could be deployed in 45 minutes. Whats the matter with people like you that believe everything that President Bliar says.
He LIES on everything from crime figures, NHS waiting lists, school/deducation exam grades, immigration figures etc etc. The list is endless and still people like you believe him and will vote for him
He LIES on everything from crime figures, NHS waiting lists, school/deducation exam grades, immigration figures etc etc. The list is endless and still people like you believe him and will vote for him
Apr 27th 2005, 2:09 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by hutchy
Well said Z3M. Lets all piss on the PM now. We're all experts now after the event. Follow what the UK press tells you idiots what to think. Do you really think your coming to a land where the politicians are all that different. We went to war here on the same premis and I for one believe that the Iraqi people are better off without Saddam. Things in Iraq will get better but you smug twats will continue to say he lied. Who really gives a ****. If you don't want him to be PM then vote (democracy) him out of office.
Remember the 5,000 kurds who died in 1988 in Saddam's chemical attack. Of course not, the press have'nt mentioned that have they!!!
Remember the 5,000 kurds who died in 1988 in Saddam's chemical attack. Of course not, the press have'nt mentioned that have they!!!
Apr 27th 2005, 2:10 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by s/nurse
well said, and don't think for one minute the other parties would not of done the same. It's politics folk. personally tony blair over micheal howard....I would prefer to have a NHS as it is rather than a severely depleted NHS....the tories did NOT have a good record...REMEMBER :scared:
Apr 27th 2005, 2:14 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by BAY
So two wrongs make a right ? Because other politicians may lie that makes it ok for Blair to lie ? What strange morals you have 
What strange morals you have there isnt a alternative............
plus now my grandmother doesnt have worry about utilitiy bills anymore.... remember quite a lot of good stuff has happened in the last few years....
plus whoever is in wont make everybody happy its impossible..... the war would have happened whoever was in power at the time..
Apr 27th 2005, 2:19 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
All politicians lie. They have to lie alot of the time to protect the country`s interests.... it`s like dealing with kids... you have to lie to them sometimes too (Santa, sex, tooth fairy, babies etc).
I don`t think the war in Iraq was about Saddam.... if that was the case we`d be in Zimbabwe kicking ass as well. It was about Oil. Keeping the Oil region stable and also Iraq`s Oil. And you know what... I agree with that. To keep Britain, US and Aus etc strong the Oil has to be protected for the future... otherwise we could all be hald at ransom in the next 50 years.
War isn`t great, but sometimes it`s a necessary evil to protect a country`s interests (which means protecting it`s people). There are LOADS of wars in history which were only to protect a country`s interests, and loads more excuses to go to war than the real reasons. Britain is an expert at creating excuses to go to war (just ask the Indians).
Yeah they lied. You`d lie too if you were in their position and knew the FULL story of what could happen in the next 50 years if you didn`t act.
Where I don`t agree with his lying is with the amount of taxes and bugger-all to show for it. Council tax is a rip-off, the transport system is always a bodge on the verge of collapse, the hospitals are still in crisis, teaching is a joke, housing is unnafordable, immigration policy is the biggest joke of all and more british people are leaving the country every year.
I don`t think the war in Iraq was about Saddam.... if that was the case we`d be in Zimbabwe kicking ass as well. It was about Oil. Keeping the Oil region stable and also Iraq`s Oil. And you know what... I agree with that. To keep Britain, US and Aus etc strong the Oil has to be protected for the future... otherwise we could all be hald at ransom in the next 50 years.
War isn`t great, but sometimes it`s a necessary evil to protect a country`s interests (which means protecting it`s people). There are LOADS of wars in history which were only to protect a country`s interests, and loads more excuses to go to war than the real reasons. Britain is an expert at creating excuses to go to war (just ask the Indians).
Yeah they lied. You`d lie too if you were in their position and knew the FULL story of what could happen in the next 50 years if you didn`t act.
Where I don`t agree with his lying is with the amount of taxes and bugger-all to show for it. Council tax is a rip-off, the transport system is always a bodge on the verge of collapse, the hospitals are still in crisis, teaching is a joke, housing is unnafordable, immigration policy is the biggest joke of all and more british people are leaving the country every year.
Apr 27th 2005, 2:24 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by sassy
there isnt a alternative............
plus now my grandmother doesnt have worry about utilitiy bills anymore.... remember quite a lot of good stuff has happened in the last few years....
plus whoever is in wont make everybody happy its impossible..... the war would have happened whoever was in power at the time..
plus now my grandmother doesnt have worry about utilitiy bills anymore.... remember quite a lot of good stuff has happened in the last few years....
plus whoever is in wont make everybody happy its impossible..... the war would have happened whoever was in power at the time..
) , increased taxes, 500,000 economic migrants, etc etc .The point about Iraq is not that we went to war but that Blair LIED about the evidence supporting right to go to war. Do you not care that Blair lied ?
Apr 27th 2005, 2:36 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by BAY
Do you not care that Blair lied ?
I was lied to for 18 years by the tories
What's the difference?I will still vote Labour.
G
Apr 27th 2005, 2:49 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
All of them are liars they only speak what you want to hear at election time , when do you ever get the mps calling at your house to see how your doin ask if theres anything they can do for you . Thats right you dont because they dont give a shit about anything as long as there lining there own pockets. FU++ EM ALL and the royal family sponging layabouts all of them getting millions to sit on there arse or strut about there land.
Apr 27th 2005, 3:30 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by hutchy
Do you really think your coming to a land where the politicians are all that different.
Apr 27th 2005, 3:51 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by Grayling
Couldn't care less.
I was lied to for 18 years by the tories What's the difference?
I will still vote Labour.
G
I was lied to for 18 years by the tories
What's the difference?I will still vote Labour.
G
Besides - what's the alternative? Howard???? the Lib Dems?????! What a joke.
Apr 27th 2005, 4:08 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Tell him to pop round my place, I've got a fist with his name on it!!
Apr 27th 2005, 4:16 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by BAY
So two wrongs make a right ? Because other politicians may lie that makes it ok for Blair to lie ? What strange morals you have
What strange morals you have and they never lie do they?
Apr 27th 2005, 4:18 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by sassy
there isnt a alternative............
plus now my grandmother doesnt have worry about utilitiy bills anymore.... remember quite a lot of good stuff has happened in the last few years....
plus whoever is in wont make everybody happy its impossible..... the war would have happened whoever was in power at the time..
plus now my grandmother doesnt have worry about utilitiy bills anymore.... remember quite a lot of good stuff has happened in the last few years....
plus whoever is in wont make everybody happy its impossible..... the war would have happened whoever was in power at the time..
Apr 27th 2005, 4:24 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by Stormz
All politicians lie. They have to lie alot of the time to protect the country`s interests.... it`s like dealing with kids... you have to lie to them sometimes too (Santa, sex, tooth fairy, babies etc).
I don`t think the war in Iraq was about Saddam.... if that was the case we`d be in Zimbabwe kicking ass as well. It was about Oil. Keeping the Oil region stable and also Iraq`s Oil. And you know what... I agree with that. To keep Britain, US and Aus etc strong the Oil has to be protected for the future... otherwise we could all be hald at ransom in the next 50 years.
War isn`t great, but sometimes it`s a necessary evil to protect a country`s interests (which means protecting it`s people). There are LOADS of wars in history which were only to protect a country`s interests, and loads more excuses to go to war than the real reasons. Britain is an expert at creating excuses to go to war (just ask the Indians).
Yeah they lied. You`d lie too if you were in their position and knew the FULL story of what could happen in the next 50 years if you didn`t act.
Where I don`t agree with his lying is with the amount of taxes and bugger-all to show for it. Council tax is a rip-off, the transport system is always a bodge on the verge of collapse, the hospitals are still in crisis, teaching is a joke, housing is unnafordable, immigration policy is the biggest joke of all and more british people are leaving the country every year.
I don`t think the war in Iraq was about Saddam.... if that was the case we`d be in Zimbabwe kicking ass as well. It was about Oil. Keeping the Oil region stable and also Iraq`s Oil. And you know what... I agree with that. To keep Britain, US and Aus etc strong the Oil has to be protected for the future... otherwise we could all be hald at ransom in the next 50 years.
War isn`t great, but sometimes it`s a necessary evil to protect a country`s interests (which means protecting it`s people). There are LOADS of wars in history which were only to protect a country`s interests, and loads more excuses to go to war than the real reasons. Britain is an expert at creating excuses to go to war (just ask the Indians).
Yeah they lied. You`d lie too if you were in their position and knew the FULL story of what could happen in the next 50 years if you didn`t act.
Where I don`t agree with his lying is with the amount of taxes and bugger-all to show for it. Council tax is a rip-off, the transport system is always a bodge on the verge of collapse, the hospitals are still in crisis, teaching is a joke, housing is unnafordable, immigration policy is the biggest joke of all and more british people are leaving the country every year.
Apr 27th 2005, 4:29 am
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Re: I've just seen Tony Bliar, lucky me!
Originally Posted by BAY
What , like increased violent crime, increased anti social behaviour, a better NHS (thats a laugh ) , increased taxes, 500,000 economic migrants, etc etc .
The point about Iraq is not that we went to war but that Blair LIED about the evidence supporting right to go to war. Do you not care that Blair lied ?
) , increased taxes, 500,000 economic migrants, etc etc .The point about Iraq is not that we went to war but that Blair LIED about the evidence supporting right to go to war. Do you not care that Blair lied ?
and at least we have an NHS and by the way IT IS so much better, you think you would get better treatment if you paid for it privately....you really need to take of those rose tinted spectacles.....some people vote for the good of the country as a whole and not just for themselves.
