It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
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Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Don't know if this might make you feel better but the simple fact is that probably most of the Asian ladies working in the packing factory have been here for a while and are Australian citizens.
He will be just a poor recently arrived immigrant without permanent residence so he might be overestimating his chances by a country mile.
He will be just a poor recently arrived immigrant without permanent residence so he might be overestimating his chances by a country mile.
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Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Hi all
I only had 1 or 2 glasses of wine last night... or was that 7 or 8?? Anyway thanks for your replies I just felt I had to talk to someone, you know what I mean, just had to vent off at someone that maybe understood as friends at home just seem to think “oh your moving to OZ then? be just like Neighbours or Home and Away, lucky you!” Arggghhh!
Anyway here is the sober version... it’s a long one sorry!
The stupid thing in all of this is me and OH were not even rowing, no raised voices or nothing, I don’t do rows anyway not my style, I’m laid back! Before we went to OZ we had spent months well I had, researching OZ in general and then the area the job came up in, I knew it was remote but felt I had to see it for myself as no matter how much research you do, when you see something/somewhere in the reality you know whether its right or wrong for you. Whilst at the interview OH employer asked who had been sending the emails (we had zillions of emails back and forth prior to going) and we said me, he said that I was obviously on top of my game as the email content had shown I had done my homework, so that made me feel good. Whilst in OZ I asked everybody I met about living cost, schools, what there is for the kids to do, the area, what people do at the weekends, the weather, job opportunities for me, I got the local papers. I did the same on the way out, we had a stop over in Melbourne and stayed with my friend, then on the way home we had 2 days in Adelaide and a day in Sydney, same thing I asked everybody everything! So I don’t feel I went with the attitude “I know I’m not going to like it”. Whilst there we went to the local school, which was great and I liked it. It seems that most people send their kids to boarding school in Adelaide once the kids reach 14/15 years of age. This is something I personally would not want to do, but it seems most do it as it gives the kids a better finishing education. The kids are mine not OH’s. We also were taken to view a house by OH’s employer who said we could rent it from them, it was to say the least dated and hadn’t been touched since the 70’s! It certainly had potential but needed a lot of work doing to it! I’m no snob by the way and can make do and make ends meet, I was a single mum for 4 years and know how to survive! Life is good now though.. cough cough!
We had obviously been talking non stop all the time in OZ and since getting home. I was mulling it all over and said to OH that I had concerns about the wage as it’s the 457 Visa basic! Realistically I don’t think that’s enough to live on, and I’m careful with money and don’t have a lavish lifestyle, we save when we need things! OH said he would work 60-70 per week to make sure we had enough money, he does that here in the UK and I never see him! One of the reasons to make such a move is to better your life style or at least see the prospect of making it better? And then working towards that, so yes if he had to work those hours to start with then fine but not all the time!
The town itself is remote, please don’t have ago at me, remote just isn’t for me, we are all different, so to those that live in remote areas no offence meant! I went in all the shops to see what they had to offer and we went to both the nearest towns hour and a half away and both of them had more choice, but still small, one of them I liked and mentioned I could live there as it just had a nicer feel to it, OH agreed he could travel so all seemed ok. Then when we mentioned it to people, we got the “no one drives that road after dark, too many roo’s and trucks!” We did actually drive it in the dark and saw one truck and no roo’s!
So there I am talking to OH, being honest and saying what my gut is thinking and feeling! I’m concerned about the wages and having enough money to live on, the area I feel is too remote for me, the kids schooling in later years... but I love OZ so can we compromise and find another job that he likes and would be happy in and in an area that has more opportunities for the kids and me! Surely that’s not the only job in OZ??. So anyway he had his paddy and packed his stuff in a black sack, took his keys off the keyring, shouted abuse at me, said his mum was going to sort everything out for him get an agent and get his visa and off to OZ he is going to find Loveyou Longtime in the packing factory! Oh! and apparently she will be greatful to have him, unlike me!
That was a few days a go and I’ve not heard from him since! I’ve not contacted him either. I’m actually more upset about the fact I’m now not going to OZ, as I want to! I wanted to do some more research and see if we could of found a compromise, as for our relationship I feel that’s over and to be honest I’m not sad. That makes me sound so heartless which I'm not at all, just lots of other things over the last few months that have happenend made me realise and reasess a lot of things! On our trip it was clear we had very different ideas of what we wanted out of life and liked to do, all of which were discussed before going. My opinions and thoughts did stay solid as they were in the UK.
So for now I’m taking some time to think and spend some time with my sons as being away from then was hell, I’ve never been away from them! I’ve already checked the DIAC and I just about have enough points to go alone if I choose too.
I don’t regret my trip at all I had a fantastic time, for me it’s been life changing already! I know what ever I choose to do it will be because it’s right for me and my sons and we will be happy.
Good luck and be happy! If you want the rainbow you have to put up with the rain!
PS Get a dating forum going, what a great way to meet like minded people with the same dream.... where do I sign up??
I only had 1 or 2 glasses of wine last night... or was that 7 or 8?? Anyway thanks for your replies I just felt I had to talk to someone, you know what I mean, just had to vent off at someone that maybe understood as friends at home just seem to think “oh your moving to OZ then? be just like Neighbours or Home and Away, lucky you!” Arggghhh!
Anyway here is the sober version... it’s a long one sorry!
The stupid thing in all of this is me and OH were not even rowing, no raised voices or nothing, I don’t do rows anyway not my style, I’m laid back! Before we went to OZ we had spent months well I had, researching OZ in general and then the area the job came up in, I knew it was remote but felt I had to see it for myself as no matter how much research you do, when you see something/somewhere in the reality you know whether its right or wrong for you. Whilst at the interview OH employer asked who had been sending the emails (we had zillions of emails back and forth prior to going) and we said me, he said that I was obviously on top of my game as the email content had shown I had done my homework, so that made me feel good. Whilst in OZ I asked everybody I met about living cost, schools, what there is for the kids to do, the area, what people do at the weekends, the weather, job opportunities for me, I got the local papers. I did the same on the way out, we had a stop over in Melbourne and stayed with my friend, then on the way home we had 2 days in Adelaide and a day in Sydney, same thing I asked everybody everything! So I don’t feel I went with the attitude “I know I’m not going to like it”. Whilst there we went to the local school, which was great and I liked it. It seems that most people send their kids to boarding school in Adelaide once the kids reach 14/15 years of age. This is something I personally would not want to do, but it seems most do it as it gives the kids a better finishing education. The kids are mine not OH’s. We also were taken to view a house by OH’s employer who said we could rent it from them, it was to say the least dated and hadn’t been touched since the 70’s! It certainly had potential but needed a lot of work doing to it! I’m no snob by the way and can make do and make ends meet, I was a single mum for 4 years and know how to survive! Life is good now though.. cough cough!
We had obviously been talking non stop all the time in OZ and since getting home. I was mulling it all over and said to OH that I had concerns about the wage as it’s the 457 Visa basic! Realistically I don’t think that’s enough to live on, and I’m careful with money and don’t have a lavish lifestyle, we save when we need things! OH said he would work 60-70 per week to make sure we had enough money, he does that here in the UK and I never see him! One of the reasons to make such a move is to better your life style or at least see the prospect of making it better? And then working towards that, so yes if he had to work those hours to start with then fine but not all the time!
The town itself is remote, please don’t have ago at me, remote just isn’t for me, we are all different, so to those that live in remote areas no offence meant! I went in all the shops to see what they had to offer and we went to both the nearest towns hour and a half away and both of them had more choice, but still small, one of them I liked and mentioned I could live there as it just had a nicer feel to it, OH agreed he could travel so all seemed ok. Then when we mentioned it to people, we got the “no one drives that road after dark, too many roo’s and trucks!” We did actually drive it in the dark and saw one truck and no roo’s!
So there I am talking to OH, being honest and saying what my gut is thinking and feeling! I’m concerned about the wages and having enough money to live on, the area I feel is too remote for me, the kids schooling in later years... but I love OZ so can we compromise and find another job that he likes and would be happy in and in an area that has more opportunities for the kids and me! Surely that’s not the only job in OZ??. So anyway he had his paddy and packed his stuff in a black sack, took his keys off the keyring, shouted abuse at me, said his mum was going to sort everything out for him get an agent and get his visa and off to OZ he is going to find Loveyou Longtime in the packing factory! Oh! and apparently she will be greatful to have him, unlike me!
That was a few days a go and I’ve not heard from him since! I’ve not contacted him either. I’m actually more upset about the fact I’m now not going to OZ, as I want to! I wanted to do some more research and see if we could of found a compromise, as for our relationship I feel that’s over and to be honest I’m not sad. That makes me sound so heartless which I'm not at all, just lots of other things over the last few months that have happenend made me realise and reasess a lot of things! On our trip it was clear we had very different ideas of what we wanted out of life and liked to do, all of which were discussed before going. My opinions and thoughts did stay solid as they were in the UK.
So for now I’m taking some time to think and spend some time with my sons as being away from then was hell, I’ve never been away from them! I’ve already checked the DIAC and I just about have enough points to go alone if I choose too.
I don’t regret my trip at all I had a fantastic time, for me it’s been life changing already! I know what ever I choose to do it will be because it’s right for me and my sons and we will be happy.
Good luck and be happy! If you want the rainbow you have to put up with the rain!
PS Get a dating forum going, what a great way to meet like minded people with the same dream.... where do I sign up??
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Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
This is very true, and thank you for taking the time to read my post so thoroughly!
However, you missed this part....
We had obviously been talking non stop all the time in OZ and since getting home.
I, yes I, was being honest about how I felt, isn't that what your supposed to do, be honest? So no the feelings and thoughts in my post were not a We!
And OH has made it very clear to me that there is on We!
However, you missed this part....
We had obviously been talking non stop all the time in OZ and since getting home.
I, yes I, was being honest about how I felt, isn't that what your supposed to do, be honest? So no the feelings and thoughts in my post were not a We!
And OH has made it very clear to me that there is on We!
#39
Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Fair play to you for being so positive! You're obviously a very strong person and I applaud you too for sticking to your guns and being true to your gut feeling. And frankly, if you qualify for a visa in your own right then stuff him, get your visa and go live where YOU want to live, how YOU want to live and what feels right for you and your kids.
And yes, it should be all about YOU as at the end of the day, you have to look out for number 1 and in your case, the kids too. He's hardly been reasonable so why go out of your way and go against your guy instinct to indulge him?!
Best of luck to you!
Tx
And yes, it should be all about YOU as at the end of the day, you have to look out for number 1 and in your case, the kids too. He's hardly been reasonable so why go out of your way and go against your guy instinct to indulge him?!
Best of luck to you!
Tx
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Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Oh Yes,
There is a young lady on here called "Daunted". She went it alone with her kids. From what i can gather, i do not know her personally, but she is as happy a Larry, worked out fine! Check her posts out, a confidence builder, just need a positive attitude!
Keith
There is a young lady on here called "Daunted". She went it alone with her kids. From what i can gather, i do not know her personally, but she is as happy a Larry, worked out fine! Check her posts out, a confidence builder, just need a positive attitude!
Keith
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#43
Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
If he wants an Eastern European of any sort he needs to Polish up his act somewhat.
#44
Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Greenlaker, I just wanted to say, go for it on your own as you've got the points. With a positive attitude such as yours, I'm sure you'll make a success od it.
I think you may need the permission from the childrens father to take them out of the country though, but it can be done as a few on this forum have managed it.
I wish you all the best for the future
Julie. x
I think you may need the permission from the childrens father to take them out of the country though, but it can be done as a few on this forum have managed it.
I wish you all the best for the future
Julie. x
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Re: It'a all ended in tears.. i'm going nowhere!
Drove there in the night twice and it was a roo every 500m, pretty much crawl speed.
Blow Hole is a fantastic place to fish.