I'm back and I'm proud
#46
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Wilf
I try to read a fair bit when the wife does not want another spice rack putting up or the garden sweeping, but apart from being in classes with the young women I am not sure I could take a university class. If I was starting over now and needed to work now I would think about it but otherwise it is just for the edjumacation, as you would say, and I can do that at home. I like reading the life stories of great people to see where I went wrong and if they start that then I may sign up.
Are you a university graduate or a school of life, with school colours of black and blue type like me?
I try to read a fair bit when the wife does not want another spice rack putting up or the garden sweeping, but apart from being in classes with the young women I am not sure I could take a university class. If I was starting over now and needed to work now I would think about it but otherwise it is just for the edjumacation, as you would say, and I can do that at home. I like reading the life stories of great people to see where I went wrong and if they start that then I may sign up.
Are you a university graduate or a school of life, with school colours of black and blue type like me?
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Megalania
State school to year 10, thereafter school of hard knocks. I don't think that is to be recommended for too many Aussies these days simply because the degreed like to hire their own. OK if you make your own way. I have had some success with inventions/patents (which I will not mention futher). Its a narrow ridge on a difficult mountain but have you thought of turning your hand to invention? (Beware of R&D and marketing costs.)
State school to year 10, thereafter school of hard knocks. I don't think that is to be recommended for too many Aussies these days simply because the degreed like to hire their own. OK if you make your own way. I have had some success with inventions/patents (which I will not mention futher). Its a narrow ridge on a difficult mountain but have you thought of turning your hand to invention? (Beware of R&D and marketing costs.)
#48
Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Megalania
It seems to me that most PhDs are undertaken either as a form of entertainment or as an academic meal ticket.
I think too many people are relying on formal edjumication and not enough are educating / researching themselves. With all the information resources available today, an intelligent person needs only to be able to open the right book (etc) to the right page and read/comprehend as a good starting point.
Those established areas where the public is at risk need certified workers (eg construction / medicine).
It seems to me that most PhDs are undertaken either as a form of entertainment or as an academic meal ticket.
I think too many people are relying on formal edjumication and not enough are educating / researching themselves. With all the information resources available today, an intelligent person needs only to be able to open the right book (etc) to the right page and read/comprehend as a good starting point.
Those established areas where the public is at risk need certified workers (eg construction / medicine).
My reasons were to keep myself employed and my family provided for as the Australian radio and telecommunications industry spat me out in the era of economically rationalised regurgitations. I have failed the fortune telling trade and am left with only a few choices.
The promise was there, Lucent were ramping up with major network builds, OneTel, Vodaphone, Orange and others were planning for big spends. Australia was re-entering the space technology field with FedSat. Queensland was to be the aerospace technology centre for excellence, with Boeing the major draw.
It has all come to nought, and am now too old to re-invent myself. My skills are in demand in the US. Indeed I have permanent immigrant visas in hand for myself, wife and 2 kids.
This is based on my skills (not just my education), I have no job offer in the US, and yet they have given us visas based on the premise that my coming to the US is in the national interest. You may not know it but to be granted a "National Interest Waiver", outside of the US, without a job offer is a very difficult task.
I am not blowing my trumpet nor complaining, merely saying that my country (for whatever reason) no longer values my skills, but the US have recognised my potential and granted me the right to live and work there freely because they consider that it is in their national interest to do so.
I feel sad about that...
Last edited by Florida_03; Jun 9th 2003 at 10:53 am.
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Florida_03
I am not blowing my trumpet nor complaining, merely saying that my country (for whatever reason) no longer values my skills, but the US have recognised my potential and granted me the right to live and work there freely because they consider that it is in their national interest to do so.
I feel sad about that...
I am not blowing my trumpet nor complaining, merely saying that my country (for whatever reason) no longer values my skills, but the US have recognised my potential and granted me the right to live and work there freely because they consider that it is in their national interest to do so.
I feel sad about that...
#50
Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by pommie bastard
Australia knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Australia knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
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Originally posted by lee/jane
It would be nice if you could give your reasons for coming back, ie your job and family etc.
It would be nice if you could give your reasons for coming back, ie your job and family etc.
Lee/Jane - if you do a search on my name you'll probably find plenty of comments from me on our reasons for returning. Essentially it boiled down to three factors: work, family and distance from Europe.
Of course there are great things about Australia and we are very fond of the place, but the "big three" I've just listed far outweighed the things we liked about Australia, such as sunshine/beaches/open space, which in our minds added up to superficial reasons for committing to live somewhere. As I've said before, everyone is different and we have friends who went to Australia at the same time as us and they love living there as those aspects of Australian life that my wife and I regard as "superficial" are regarded by them as the absolute keys to happiness.
All I would say is, go there with open eyes, accept that for the reasons I have cited it is not for everyone and that it is perfectly acceptable for it not to be for you. Be proud of your choices, wherever they lead you.
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Florida_03
You may be right...but I still love my country...
You may be right...but I still love my country...
#53
Originally posted by Herman
Thanks everyone for the replies, many of which made me chuckle. (PS. "Herman" is a pseudonym, but I'm thinking of a permanent name change!).
Lee/Jane - if you do a search on my name you'll probably find plenty of comments from me on our reasons for returning. Essentially it boiled down to three factors: work, family and distance from Europe.
Of course there are great things about Australia and we are very fond of the place, but the "big three" I've just listed far outweighed the things we liked about Australia, such as sunshine/beaches/open space, which in our minds added up to superficial reasons for committing to live somewhere. As I've said before, everyone is different and we have friends who went to Australia at the same time as us and they love living there as those aspects of Australian life that my wife and I regard as "superficial" are regarded by them as the absolute keys to happiness.
All I would say is, go there with open eyes, accept that for the reasons I have cited it is not for everyone and that it is perfectly acceptable for it not to be for you. Be proud of your choices, wherever they lead you.
Thanks everyone for the replies, many of which made me chuckle. (PS. "Herman" is a pseudonym, but I'm thinking of a permanent name change!).
Lee/Jane - if you do a search on my name you'll probably find plenty of comments from me on our reasons for returning. Essentially it boiled down to three factors: work, family and distance from Europe.
Of course there are great things about Australia and we are very fond of the place, but the "big three" I've just listed far outweighed the things we liked about Australia, such as sunshine/beaches/open space, which in our minds added up to superficial reasons for committing to live somewhere. As I've said before, everyone is different and we have friends who went to Australia at the same time as us and they love living there as those aspects of Australian life that my wife and I regard as "superficial" are regarded by them as the absolute keys to happiness.
All I would say is, go there with open eyes, accept that for the reasons I have cited it is not for everyone and that it is perfectly acceptable for it not to be for you. Be proud of your choices, wherever they lead you.
I seem to remember from one of your old posts about thinking about starting a family.
You have no idea what now awaits you...
Good luck.
AndyH.
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Originally posted by Herman
Thanks everyone for the replies, many of which made me chuckle. (PS. "Herman" is a pseudonym, but I'm thinking of a permanent name change!).
Lee/Jane - if you do a search on my name you'll probably find plenty of comments from me on our reasons for returning. Essentially it boiled down to three factors: work, family and distance from Europe.
Of course there are great things about Australia and we are very fond of the place, but the "big three" I've just listed far outweighed the things we liked about Australia, such as sunshine/beaches/open space, which in our minds added up to superficial reasons for committing to live somewhere. As I've said before, everyone is different and we have friends who went to Australia at the same time as us and they love living there as those aspects of Australian life that my wife and I regard as "superficial" are regarded by them as the absolute keys to happiness.
All I would say is, go there with open eyes, accept that for the reasons I have cited it is not for everyone and that it is perfectly acceptable for it not to be for you. Be proud of your choices, wherever they lead you.
Thanks everyone for the replies, many of which made me chuckle. (PS. "Herman" is a pseudonym, but I'm thinking of a permanent name change!).
Lee/Jane - if you do a search on my name you'll probably find plenty of comments from me on our reasons for returning. Essentially it boiled down to three factors: work, family and distance from Europe.
Of course there are great things about Australia and we are very fond of the place, but the "big three" I've just listed far outweighed the things we liked about Australia, such as sunshine/beaches/open space, which in our minds added up to superficial reasons for committing to live somewhere. As I've said before, everyone is different and we have friends who went to Australia at the same time as us and they love living there as those aspects of Australian life that my wife and I regard as "superficial" are regarded by them as the absolute keys to happiness.
All I would say is, go there with open eyes, accept that for the reasons I have cited it is not for everyone and that it is perfectly acceptable for it not to be for you. Be proud of your choices, wherever they lead you.
Anyway welcome back - ahh sense of reason.
How's the UK? In your opinion has it changed that much since you last lived there?
Cheers
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Originally posted by Ceri
Herman, welcome back (to this forum). I though you were going to Czechoslovakia or something with your wife.(?)
Anyway welcome back - ahh sense of reason.
How's the UK? In your opinion has it changed that much since you last lived there?
Cheers
Herman, welcome back (to this forum). I though you were going to Czechoslovakia or something with your wife.(?)
Anyway welcome back - ahh sense of reason.
How's the UK? In your opinion has it changed that much since you last lived there?
Cheers
You are right, our long term plan is to buy land in the Czech Republic, build log cabins and rent to tourists (we would do it in the UK but we dont have the £2 million required!).
We spent 2 weeks on holiday there as soon as we returned and looked at land parcels and spoke to a number of builders. We have found the builder but none of the land was exactly what we were after, so we'll have another look later in the year. We are not in any great hurry though, as we are loving living back in the UK. We might have to move to Prague in a the next couple of years as an interim step to starting the business, as finding good land in a hurry is not an easy task and we need to scour the country to find the most tourist friendly locations.
#56
Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by pommie bastard
Nice to see you settled in so quicky Pal hope to get back to the land of the living very soon.
Nice to see you settled in so quicky Pal hope to get back to the land of the living very soon.
I thought you were heading for the UK.
#57
Re: I'm back and I'm proud
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wilf
I am not qualified to say I am afraid, not being a university graduate. My kids are, though, but I never got the hang of what they did. You have a point about self-teaching. Michael Faraday was one man I remember from school in England..............
You went to school with Michael Faraday?
I am not qualified to say I am afraid, not being a university graduate. My kids are, though, but I never got the hang of what they did. You have a point about self-teaching. Michael Faraday was one man I remember from school in England..............
You went to school with Michael Faraday?
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by Houdini
I thought you were heading for the UK.
I thought you were heading for the UK.
The first thought that went through my head was its great here not like that little Island up in the land of the living.
#59
Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by pommie bastard
Crawling up the Freeway in the doom and gloom with driving rain this morning , I watched the trains pass by packed like sardines .
The first thought that went through my head was its great here not like that little Island up in the land of the living.
Crawling up the Freeway in the doom and gloom with driving rain this morning , I watched the trains pass by packed like sardines .
The first thought that went through my head was its great here not like that little Island up in the land of the living.
Don't forget though, over here everyone has a shower in the morning before heading to the station.
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Re: I'm back and I'm proud
Originally posted by renth
Did you see me in the train?
Don't forget though, over here everyone has a shower in the morning before heading to the station.
Did you see me in the train?
Don't forget though, over here everyone has a shower in the morning before heading to the station.
No but give us a wave tomorrow and smile bound to spot a happy face not many about at 7 am this morning in the doom and gloom .
Not the Poms dont wash joke again , wheres a Pom hide his money under the soap , same poor humour.
Good job people are so smart here now that is bollocks.