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I guess this is goodbye.
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( |
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Oh Lucy.....I don't know what to say....I'm so sorry. What a complete kick in the teeth for you both.. :( I'm sure others will post more useful messages for you but I'm really lost for words...so sorry :(
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Lucy,
I am absolutely gutted for you, I can't imagine what you're feeling. Is there no alternatives left? There isn't anything I can say really, except I'm thinking of you, and sending big hugs. [[[x]]] Nikki xx |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( Kay |
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Are you short on the SIR points?
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Oh my god :scared:
Im not really sure what to say Lucy, we have spoken a few times ( chatroom and over PMs ) and I know you were really looking forward on moving and the kids were happy, and now this… :( Life sometimes can be cruel, and for them ( immigration ) we are just a number, they can always go elsewhere, that’s my interpretation. It’s not nice specially when there is two small kids involved. Wishing you all the best, and if there is anything we can help just gives us a shout. xx Pedro |
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Originally Posted by seang
Are you short on the SIR points?
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That's shite lucy.
Sorry to hear your news, hopefully someone can bring to your attention another possibility. maybe new zealand wouldn't be such a bad idea if all else fails. :( Paul. |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
Yes becuase now Haydn is 30 we are officially 5 points short and my occupation isnt worth anything nor are my qualifications ( I have an HND in Travel and Tourism Management and have worked for Kuoni for 8 years) Im on the DIMIA website desperately trying to find a way round this ! Jeremy HELP! I feel they are nit picking and being quite petty and also moving the goalposts.
Hi Lucy, what is Haydn's trade and is it on any of the occupations in demand lists for SA, Vic or Tas, if it is and as along as you have 70 pts or more you can be sponsered by the respective gov and be granted a permanent residency visa under the STNI scheme good luck Andy |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( Have sent you a PM. D D |
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:( absolutley gutted for you, you must be devastated, i,m sure there is some one on this site who can offer some hope of getting to oz, when you have calmed down look at all the options one by one, keep your chin up, we are all on your side, good luck from steve and family.
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Oh Lucy
I really don't know what to say. I am so sorry your dreams have been shattered. Hopefully someone may come up with another solution. I know that our visa app has always been on a thin line, we have always had it in our mind that if things go wrong it isn't the end of the world, just means we have to focus our lives on doing something else. Stay positive Lucy and take care Julia |
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Originally Posted by andy thomas
Hi Lucy,
what is Haydn's trade and is it on any of the occupations in demand lists for SA, Vic or Tas, if it is and as along as you have 70 pts or more you can be sponsered by the respective gov and be granted a permanent residency visa under the STNI scheme good luck Andy They have soem of the most random occupations I have ever heard of on there, but sadly not my husbands. (officially a sports administrator he is assistant manager of a huge leisure centre in Sussex.) DAMMIT there has to be some way we can take this higher and complain. |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
They have soem of the most random occupations I have ever heard of on there, but sadly not my husbands. (officially a sports administrator he is assistant manager of a huge leisure centre in Sussex.) DAMMIT there has to be some way we can take this higher and complain.
Lucy, what is the code he was allocated for this occupation when you submitted his skills assessment. Andy |
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Originally Posted by andy thomas
Lucy, what is the code he was allocated for this occupation when you submitted his skills assessment.
Andy |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
1299-19 sports adminstrator
is there a way in if you revert back to the skill matching visa you originally lodged for? |
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That sucks big time, especially when a previous case officer had confirmed in writing you (and family) were ok :mad:
It is a bit of a obvious one, but have you claimed 5 bonus points (eg for the $100k investment). Has your agent said anything of a way forward? - looking at booklet 6 it says if you are refused you can, if applicable(?), apply for merits review of the decision. Hope you can find a way forward |
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Dear Lucy
I am really sorry to hear about this - you must be so upset at the moment. I hope that you are able to work something out. |
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Originally Posted by andy thomas
is there a way in if you revert back to the skill matching visa you originally lodged for?
Yes we can go to back to the skill matching pool but who knows how long that will take...... |
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Originally Posted by walaj
That sucks big time, especially when a previous case officer had confirmed in writing you (and family) were ok :mad:
It is a bit of a obvious one, but have you claimed 5 bonus points (eg for the $100k investment). Has your agent said anything of a way forward? - looking at booklet 6 it says if you are refused you can, if applicable(?), apply for merits review of the decision. Hope you can find a way forward We were already paying the 100k bond...off to look at booklet 6 now.... |
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just a thought, but if you have passed the pool mark your application isnt automatically rejected....I thought your application went into the pool for 2 years - this is from booklet 6 - in case a lower pass mark is set? (it must be a possibility or it woudlnt be in the dimia booklet before anyone shoots me down in flames)
lucy, does the 5 points short mean you only now have 105? (as pass mark for SIR is 110 points)? I think you need to get a new agent....I cant beleive the agent had the inexperience to allow you to submit your application knowing you wouldnt achieve the pass mark?? If they did, then you must have some way of redress with regards to fees paid etc. sue |
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I'm really sorry to hear your news.
I hope you find a way to realise your dreams. Hang in there! |
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Hi Lucy,
So sorry to hear about this set-back. Unfortunately I can't give you any advice as there are others more qualified and more experienced on the in's and out's of the DIMIA. I'm sure if anyone on the forum can help then they will do. Keep your chin up and we'll keep everything crossed for you. Thinking of you Warren & Jill :o |
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Originally Posted by tiredwithtwins
I think you need to get a new agent....I cant beleive the agent had the inexperience to allow you to submit your application knowing you wouldnt achieve the pass mark?? If they did, then you must have some way of redress with regards to fees paid etc. I hope this all sorts itself out and you manage to fulfill your dream. Goodluck |
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Originally Posted by primrose
I have followed your posts both on here and the Adelaidebrits site, and Sue is right, your agent seems to have given you poor advice.
I hope this all sorts itself out and you manage to fulfill your dream. Goodluck Im not taking this lying down.....am writing to the SA government to plead my case. We are EXACTLY the sort of migrants they want...young, fit and healthy, hardworking and with a bit of capital behind us... |
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My thoughts:
- It sounds to me that you may be confusing a State Nomination with a SIR visa sponsorship. - In any event, with a 50 point occupation your points situation in respect of the original visa application would (in an ideal world) be: Occupation 50 Age 30 English language 20 Specific work experience 5 Bonus points 5 (assuming you can lodge A$100k) TOTAL 110 - I don't know the full details of your application, but there are provisions which allow those who have been "pooled" with 110 points to be invited to apply for a SIR visa: http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/ski...r_6.htm#pooled - My guess is that you have been assessed at 105 points, not 110, because you haven't lodged the $100k, and therefore the pathway to the SIR visa discussed at the weblink above isn't available to you ... which I dare say you know already. - However, without researching the situation more fully I don't know whether you can attain the 110 points by lodging the $100k, and then utilise the pathway to the SIR visa I have just mentioned. Maybe your agent can look into this? Good luck.
Originally Posted by lucyb
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( |
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Lucy,
Im so sorry to hear about this and I hope you sort it out. Regards, Cheeky |
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Originally Posted by Alan Collett
My thoughts:
- It sounds to me that you may be confusing a State Nomination with a SIR visa sponsorship. - In any event, with a 50 point occupation your points situation in respect of the original visa application would (in an ideal world) be: Occupation 50 Age 30 English language 20 Specific work experience 5 Bonus points 5 (assuming you can lodge A$100k) TOTAL 110 - I don't know the full details of your application, but there are provisions which allow those who have been "pooled" with 110 points to be invited to apply for a SIR visa: http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/ski...r_6.htm#pooled - My guess is that you have been assessed at 105 points, not 110, because you haven't lodged the $100k, and therefore the pathway to the SIR visa discussed at the weblink above isn't available to you ... which I dare say you know already. - However, without researching the situation more fully I don't know whether you can attain the 110 points by lodging the $100k, and then utilise the pathway to the SIR visa I have just mentioned. Maybe your agent can look into this? Good luck. OzTennis :) |
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Lucy, you poor soul, you have my sympathy.
As OzTennis says - don't dream its over. Is it possible to get Alan or someone to take your case on? |
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Just to say sorry to read about your set back(and thats all it is -a set back .Not the end)
Hopefully Alan has given you something to go with to the next step. I would guess SA would be more receptive to any contact then other states(although I know DIMIA have last say) All the best keep plugging away at them.Show them you are the type that they would welcome in. |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
Yes becuase now Haydn is 30 we are officially 5 points short and my occupation isnt worth anything nor are my qualifications ( I have an HND in Travel and Tourism Management and have worked for Kuoni for 8 years) Im on the DIMIA website desperately trying to find a way round this ! Jeremy HELP! I feel they are nit picking and being quite petty and also moving the goalposts.
A Skilled Independent (Class BN) application lodged before your husband's birthday would *possibly* have done, but this is only based on what DIMIA are saying as they drafted the Regulations badly and on a strict wording of them currently this is not the case. In your shoes I'd look at New Zealand or Canada to see if you qualify there. Jeremy |
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Originally Posted by andy thomas
is there a way in if you revert back to the skill matching visa you originally lodged for?
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Lucy,
Damn honey!! I am really sorry to read about your probs. I wish there was something I could do, but apart from sending you loads of good vibes and hope.....I wish it was more, hon....sorry. Keep your chin up, you never know what will happen. I will keep all my fingers crossed for ya. Hels xxx |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( Absolutely shocked to hear your news Lucy,hope theres a way around it for you guys-keep trying x Best wishes,luck & hugs x x x Donna. |
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Keep your head up Lucy, you sound like the sort of person that countries should be encouraging to settle.
Best Of Luck Matt |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
My agent just called and she is as upset as I am. The caseworker has indeed refused our application. Basically we had to initially lodge under the skill matching scheme so that we had something lodged before Haydn turned 30 on July 13. In the meantime we applied for state nomination from SA and that came back very quickly. Great we thought...we can now apply for SIR. Haydn turned 30 and I believe we actually lodged our SA application around July 30. This was all ok, we were assured that there would be no problem as we had something lodged before his 30th. Howver now DIMIA are saying that they are two seperate visas (duh-as if we didnt know that) and we cannot transfer them, therefore they can only use the date of lodgment for the SIR visa and we are then 5 MEASLEY BLOODY POINTS SHORT and therefore REFUSED. Thats it. case closed. bloody bastards. These are peoples lives they are messing and toying with. How cruel is that after we spent all that money, the rest of our savings. flying out to Adelaide and falling in love with it. So now we have nothing. No savings and our dreams are ruined. I am devestated and heartbroken and cannot stob sobbing. My agent, bless her is trying to tempt us with NZ, but we have our hearts set on Adelaide. Life is so cruel.
And you know what else pisses me off? If Id known we had no chance, I would have not spent all our savings trying and therefore could have had a longer maternity leave with Toby. :( Call a few other agents and see what they say, Alan Collett might know ways around this ? Good luck and keep your chin up. IrishMolly |
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Hi Lucy
Really sorry to hear your bad news. I hope that you manage to get things sorted and that you are still able to fulfill your dream. Graham |
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I've replied on Adelaidebrits as well, but just want to say....don't give up yet...When the points increased in April, we were totally wiped out in terms of points and all that, but something came up, just like it will for you.....fight for what you believe in, Lucy, it will turn out ok.
Good luck Lesley |
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Originally Posted by bettytweena
I've replied on Adelaidebrits as well, but just want to say....don't give up yet...When the points increased in April, we were totally wiped out in terms of points and all that, but something came up, just like it will for you.....fight for what you believe in, Lucy, it will turn out ok.
Good luck Lesley Hi everyone..Ive taken your advice and contacted Alan Colletts UK office and they are going to get him to ring me. I am not taking no for an answer...DIMIA get ready for a fight! :mad: |
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Originally Posted by lucyb
Hi everyone..Ive taken your advice and contacted Alan Colletts UK office and they are going to get him to ring me. I am not taking no for an answer...DIMIA get ready for a fight! :mad:
Good on ya Lucy-you go for it girl!!! Donna.x |
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