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I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. I've been to NZ twice and am on my way again on Tuesday. I think both islands are beautiful, but there's no way I could live there. Have you considered moving to another area in Australia, sounds like you're in quite a remote place at the moment? This thread may give you some food for thought http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260048 Good luck with whatever you decide to do :) |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Hi there
Sorry you are not happy where you are and also sorry I can't help with your q's but just out of interest where in Aus are you? Lindsey |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. Have you travelled to and seen the eastern states of OZ, You want a cooler climate with four seasons, green countryside and a variety of landscapes, Victoria sounds perfect to me. It snows in parts of Victoria during winter. Why don't you check out Melbourne, Travel along the great ocean road, see the spectacular coastal scenery and green coutryside past Geelong and Warrnambool. The economy and employment opportunities are a hell of alot better in Victoria then New Zealand. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
In the tropical north. A lot of people have told us to move, but I believe that the problems would not be solved then. I hear that the cockr/fly/ant problems are everywhere in OZ. Also the extreme heat in the summer and the long distances to get anywhere. I have always wanted to live in a small but nice town surrounded by beautiful nature (have been living in Jasper, Kanada and loved the place to death and was hoping I find the same happiness in a place like Wanaka or Queenstown). Australia does not seem to have those sort of places. It is either living in a Mio. people city or leaving out in the bush in a place like Tennant Creek or Gympie or ... (horror). Sorry, am so blue at the moment, as I have been trying so hard to like this place...
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Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
In the tropical north. A lot of people have told us to move, but I believe that the problems would not be solved then. I hear that the cockr/fly/ant problems are everywhere in OZ. Also the extreme heat in the summer and the long distances to get anywhere. I have always wanted to live in a small but nice town surrounded by beautiful nature (have been living in Jasper, Kanada and loved the place to death and was hoping I find the same happiness in a place like Wanaka or Queenstown). Australia does not seem to have those sort of places. It is either living in a Mio. people city or leaving out in the bush in a place like Tennant Creek or Gympie or ... (horror). Sorry, am so blue at the moment, as I have been trying so hard to like this place...
Sounds like you're having a hard time. Queenstown and Wanaka both rely quite heavily on the tourist industry (skiing and summer). Personally out of the two I'd chose Q'town, just because its a bit bigger, but neither are too far apart. If you really feel that NZ is for you, would it not be possible to go there on holiday and see it for yourselves? Sounds like you like the snow/mountains, so perhaps Victoria/ACT would be ideal for you. As previously said, cooler climate and more 'seasonal'. Also, although you will still get spiders etc everywhere, the hotter more humid climates are going to bring them out, especially the mozzie/sandflies which have only 'just' started appearing here in Brisbane in the past week or so as its got warmer. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Just a thought, but what about Tasmania???
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Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
i too couldn't stand Australia for all the reasons you post.
We live in the South Island, i've lived near Queenstown for a couple of years and for me its far far better. And i've yet to see any spiders, although by the lake front there are sandflies, but not in abundance like the west coast. I am not a follower of the hot sun and love the seasons, and its no colder here than the UK. Tasmania is also a nice place, but i'd still prefere NZ :) |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
In the tropical north. A lot of people have told us to move, but I believe that the problems would not be solved then. I hear that the cockr/fly/ant problems are everywhere in OZ. Also the extreme heat in the summer and the long distances to get anywhere. I have always wanted to live in a small but nice town surrounded by beautiful nature (have been living in Jasper, Kanada and loved the place to death and was hoping I find the same happiness in a place like Wanaka or Queenstown). Australia does not seem to have those sort of places. It is either living in a Mio. people city or leaving out in the bush in a place like Tennant Creek or Gympie or ... (horror). Sorry, am so blue at the moment, as I have been trying so hard to like this place...
Can't speak for Tennant Creek but Gympie is hardly "out in the bush" it's a fairly nice city 40 mins from Noosa same from Tin Can Bay and Rainbow Beach. We live 20 mins from there and have no problems with ants, no problems with flies [as we have screens] As we always remove our shoes outside we've never even seen a cockroach in the house. Sounds like your move here was poorly planned and insufficiently researched. Why not go on a long holiday to NZ first and see if you like it. Alternately if you enjoyed living in " Jasper, Kanada" so much just go back. :rolleyes: |
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Regarding mozzies and sandflies... both my arms are covered in scars from infected mozzie and sandfly bites inflicted on me in NZ, and the weird thing is, i was hardly bitten at all here in Adelaide last summer!! We also had cockies in NZ and plagues of cicadas in summer.
You have chosen to live in the most humid and tropical part of Australia. Most of it is not like that at all. Even here in Adelaide, where it gets very hot during summer, it is a dry heat and far more bareable than the humidity up there. We also have distinct seasons here too, with winter getting quite cold (although not freezing) If you think everything is too far away where you are now, then NZ will be even worse!! Its probably one of the most geographically isolated places in the world. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
- hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km
- hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. NZ moving to 4 weeks min hols 2007, other infrastructure aspects are modern OECD standard. Most people who move to Aus from NZ do so because salaried jobs pay higher in Aus. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
In the tropical north. A lot of people have told us to move, but I believe that the problems would not be solved then. I hear that the cockr/fly/ant problems are everywhere in OZ. Also the extreme heat in the summer and the long distances to get anywhere. I have always wanted to live in a small but nice town surrounded by beautiful nature (have been living in Jasper, Kanada and loved the place to death and was hoping I find the same happiness in a place like Wanaka or Queenstown). Australia does not seem to have those sort of places. It is either living in a Mio. people city or leaving out in the bush in a place like Tennant Creek or Gympie or ... (horror). Sorry, am so blue at the moment, as I have been trying so hard to like this place...
We don't have cockroach, fly or ant problems here (well not that I'm aware of anyway!!). It only takes 45 minutes (on a good day) to drive into the City Center, it's only 2 hours to the snow (if that's what you like) and it's literally 15 minutes to drive into the Dandenongs for a beautiful view of Melbourne, great places to stop and have Scones and Tea, or just take a nice leisurely drive (lovely and cool in the Summer). We can drive for 15 minutes and we are amongst all the great Yarra Valley Wineries (so many to choose from), and a further 30 minutes and we are in the country with huge paddocks full of cows and sheep!! We don't suffer from the heat and humidity very often. There's normally a warm wind blowing when it does get hot, there's normally a cold wind blowing when it does get cold!! We actually get 4 seasons down here. Last week it was 35 degrees with beautiful blue skies and brilliant sunshine one day, and 22 degrees with overcast skies and rain the next day. As somebody in a previous post mentioned, perhaps you could try moving to another state before considering the huge upheavel to another country. Melbourne is a great city to live in, and may be just right for you. Regards |
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Hello sorry to hear you dont like Oz and all the wildlife.. remember its a whole continent to itself and has more than four seasons, Its the only place we know that has snowymountains with gum trees on them. you can ski surf dive and eat great sea food, see tons of aniamals that live nowhere in the world. Victoria is totally different to the north, it reminds me of UK with hot summers, but must agree wanaka is a lovely place we lived there for 7 months but is fastly becoming a very populated town. Our friends have lived in Dunedin for years and have seen wanaka change alot. Wanaka is becoming a retirement haven on the outskirts and totally gearded up to build more houses.So the little town you dream of may soom be a big town. There are sandflies in wanaka and it's very hot in the summer. you have a good think as you sound like you havnt seen all that australia has to offer which in our opinion is huge!! take care. :)
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Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. Im in Perth and love it despite the differences! :eek: |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons As others have noted the climate you're experiencing is _not_ typical of Australia in general. The southern part of Australia (including Tasmania) would likely be much more comfortable for you. You could either go for a city like Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra or Hobart or pick a smaller regional centre that's a few hours drive away from the big city. There are plenty of these in the south of Australia (eg Albany, Bendigo, Warrnambool, Geelong, Launceston, etc). My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. If you are a permanent resident (PR) in Australia you can probably get into NZ to live without needing a visa, at least according to what others have posted. But your Australian PR will expire eventually and it will likely be 5 years before you can become an NZ citizen (they plan to increase the residence requirement to 5 years from 1 Jan 2005 - see http://www.citizenship.govt.nz) so if you'd like a blue passport sooner, it may be better to stay in Australia for a while and only think about a possible move to NZ at a later stage. Of course, depending on the law of your home country you may end up losing that citizenship - you don't say what that is or whether this is important to you. Australian citizens (including naturalised Australians) have an unqualified right to live in New Zealand, at least under current NZ law. Jeremy |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Why don't you think about Tasmania, or one of the regional centres in the upland parts of rural Victoria and New South Wales (e.g. Ballarat, Orange)? All have four seasons and a relative lack of spiders, mosquitos, etc, etc. Plenty of openings for anyone in the hospitality industry and not 1600km to the nearest large city.
Originally Posted by nadja31
Hi all,
my Oz husband and I moved to Oz 3 years ago and still I don't feel home or happy here. There is just certain things I dislike so much here namely: - the spiders, cockroaches, mozzies, sandflies, etc. We had cockraoaches breeding in the kitchen cupboards, ants in the electrics in the walls, infected mozzie bites etc. Yesterday I woke up by a cockr. crawling over my back. I am so disgusted by it all that I feel sick half the time. Spend most of the day spraying and cleaning, but still.... - hate the fact that everything is so far away here, next big city: 1600 km, change of scenery not for 2000 km - hate the heat - hate the fact that there is no seasons My husband and I are both working in hospitality and I don't think it would be a problem for us finding a job in NZ (want to go to Otago/Lakes Area). We realize the salary might be less and Real estate more expensive. We are ok with that. We just wonder what the differences are with regards to holidays, child support, medicare, schools etc. Is there much of a difference? I know there are many people moving from NZ to Oz (scares me a little). Is that mainly because of the economy/work situation (as that would not really apply to us). Thanks for any reply. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Australia is a big place,don't limit your options by coming here.We spent yesterday afternoon outside and were bitten by sandlies within minutes.I keep the windows closed as much as possible to keep the flies and mozzies out.We have great big cream and brown cockroaches and earwigs in our rental house.The winter cold and occassional frost doesn't kill anything off and it's grey,windy,wet today and 12 degrees.I'd swap with you anyday!!
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I honestly think you'd be even more miserable in New Zealand. I was there for a few months visiting a friend, and they are really struggling to get by.
Good luck though. -Becs |
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Hi :)
We are also in Tropical far North Queensland and we haven't experienced the cockroach (seen one ), ant ( seen a few, but nothing to be afraid of ) or mossie's you speak of. Yes, there are some sandflies, around the marshy areas and yes the bites they inflict are painfully itchy and not pleasant. Are you south? Seems they have more of that sort of thing down there for some reason, maybe move within your area first, before moving country? Good luck and best wishes, Leigh. x :) |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by steandleigh
Hi :)
We are also in Tropical far North Queensland and we haven't experienced the cockroach (seen one ), ant ( seen a few, but nothing to be afraid of ) or mossie's you speak of. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Although I empathize with the fact that you are not settled, I'm genuinely amazed that you were surprised to discover the tropics to be very hot and to have lots of bugs.
You could live as far north as Northern NSW and experience snow in winter if you lived at a high altitude for example. There are lots of parts of this huge country that are completely and utterly different from where you are. Like others, I strongly recommend looking at more southerly parts of Aus before considering NZ. :) |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by cresta57
Wow no shit, you've moved to tropical north Qld and don't like the flies cockies and the ants. You don't like the extreme heat or the long distance to get anywhere. What did you expect it to be like? No wonder a lot of people have advised you to move!
Can't speak for Tennant Creek but Gympie is hardly "out in the bush" it's a fairly nice city 40 mins from Noosa same from Tin Can Bay and Rainbow Beach. We live 20 mins from there and have no problems with ants, no problems with flies [as we have screens] As we always remove our shoes outside we've never even seen a cockroach in the house. Sounds like your move here was poorly planned and insufficiently researched. Why not go on a long holiday to NZ first and see if you like it. Alternately if you enjoyed living in " Jasper, Kanada" so much just go back. :rolleyes: |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by Lathlain
Then why the heck did you come then???
Im in Perth and love it despite the differences! :eek: |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by JAJ
Are you in Darwin?
As others have noted the climate you're experiencing is _not_ typical of Australia in general. The southern part of Australia (including Tasmania) would likely be much more comfortable for you. You could either go for a city like Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra or Hobart or pick a smaller regional centre that's a few hours drive away from the big city. There are plenty of these in the south of Australia (eg Albany, Bendigo, Warrnambool, Geelong, Launceston, etc). I can't speak for NZ in detail but I believe it's fairly similar to Australia - except with a lower standard of living. So salaries are lower and things like medicare are not as comprehensive. If you are a permanent resident (PR) in Australia you can probably get into NZ to live without needing a visa, at least according to what others have posted. But your Australian PR will expire eventually and it will likely be 5 years before you can become an NZ citizen (they plan to increase the residence requirement to 5 years from 1 Jan 2005 - see http://www.citizenship.govt.nz) so if you'd like a blue passport sooner, it may be better to stay in Australia for a while and only think about a possible move to NZ at a later stage. Of course, depending on the law of your home country you may end up losing that citizenship - you don't say what that is or whether this is important to you. Australian citizens (including naturalised Australians) have an unqualified right to live in New Zealand, at least under current NZ law. Jeremy |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by tonyk38
Although I empathize with the fact that you are not settled, I'm genuinely amazed that you were surprised to discover the tropics to be very hot and to have lots of bugs.
You could live as far north as Northern NSW and experience snow in winter if you lived at a high altitude for example. There are lots of parts of this huge country that are completely and utterly different from where you are. Like others, I strongly recommend looking at more southerly parts of Aus before considering NZ. :) |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Thanks for the info. Will be very helpful. I think I am just too over Australia altogether to give it a go in another city here. But thanks for the ideas...
l was wondering have you actually been to and seen South eastern Australia, Sydney ( NSW) , Melbourne, Rural Victoria or even Tasmania which has a climate and countryside similar to England. If not you should follow the advice of other people on this forum and check out these places on a holiday before considering another country. |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by nadja31
Thanks for the info. Will be very helpful. I think I am just too over Australia altogether to give it a go in another city here. But thanks for the ideas...
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I can assure you now, that if isolation is an issue for you NZ is deffo NOT for you!! Of course you should go see for yourself, but i am pretty sure in my mind you really would not settle.
I know you will probably already be doing this, but maybe go look at properties for sale whilst there, look at job oportunities and compare cost of living versus wages. I think it might be a bit of a shock!! |
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You should consider Melbourne, its a large city ( you don't like small towns)
It was voted the world's most liveable city, it has a cool climate, cold in winter with a mild summer, many more employment opportunities then New Zealand and few bugs and there are many fantastic destinations within 1 hours drive from Melbourne such as the surf coast and the Great Ocean Road. |
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Hourly wages here for most people are pretty terrible,salaries aren't much better either.Don't come on holiday now, wait until the winter and see how busy the hospitality industry is at that time of year,even better rent a house for a few weeks and live-in it while you decide.
My BIL works in the hotel trade back in the UK and there's no way I would recommed to him that he comes here to work.He's much better off back in the Lake District. |
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Originally Posted by podgypossum
I can assure you now, that if isolation is an issue for you NZ is deffo NOT for you!! Of course you should go see for yourself, but i am pretty sure in my mind you really would not settle.
I know you will probably already be doing this, but maybe go look at properties for sale whilst there, look at job oportunities and compare cost of living versus wages. I think it might be a bit of a shock!! The vast majority were specific to Ozz! Just give NZ a go. Hardly much effort being next door(ish) and if at the end of the day you go back to blighty, consider it a little excursion on the way back... You can read posts on shite houses and this and that, but it all depends on what you want from life. (I think it is a little overdone personaly). One man's meat and all that... |
Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by aussie73
You should consider Melbourne, its a large city ( you don't like small towns)
It was voted the world's most liveable city, it has a cool climate, cold in winter with a mild summer, many more employment opportunities then New Zealand and few bugs and there are many fantastic destinations within 1 hours drive from Melbourne such as the surf coast and the Great Ocean Road. :) |
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I respect your opinion..but, apart from the geographical isolation, (and in my opinion it is more isolated) the entire population of NZ is only 4 million, and over 1 million of those are squeezed into Auckland alone. This leaves 3 million strewn out across both north and south islands. Of course if you live in towns there will be people around etc, but it doesnt make for a diverse and wide range of options (for me anyway) Like you say, it depends on what type of person you are. If you really do like a quieter kind of life, mountain climbing, extreme sports and fishing then it could be a paradise for you. But i feel NZ will suit a very specific type of person and doesnt offer too many diverse styles of living for a lot of people, and thats why it becomes boring for some of us.
I also dont agree on the housing issue being overdone. Even buying newish properties has its pitfalls after the leaky building syndrome fiasco. |
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Originally Posted by podgypossum
I respect your opinion..but, apart from the geographical isolation, (and in my opinion it is more isolated) the entire population of NZ is only 4 million, and over 1 million of those are squeezed into Auckland alone. This leaves 3 million strewn out across both north and south islands. Of course if you live in towns there will be people around etc, but it doesnt make for a diverse and wide range of options (for me anyway) Like you say, it depends on what type of person you are. If you really do like a quieter kind of life, mountain climbing, extreme sports and fishing then it could be a paradise for you. But i feel NZ will suit a very specific type of person and doesnt offer too many diverse styles of living for a lot of people, and thats why it becomes boring for some of us.
I also dont agree on the housing issue being overdone. Even buying newish properties has its pitfalls after the leaky building syndrome fiasco. 1: The Spiders, etc… 2: Hate the fact everything is so far away here… (Here she proceeds to mention next big city : 1600km away.) This implies the isolation she feels is based on geographic distance between places in the same country. She also mentions the scenery issue related to the distance. 3: Hate the heat. 4: Hate the fact that there are no seasons. All I am trying to do is point out that based on her issues, NZ would be an appropriate move, as none of the above apply here. I am not discussing any other issues, as this is irrelevant in this context. All we have are the 4 basic facts as listed above. |
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But point #2 is relevant.. where is the nearest BIG city on the South Island of NZ? Even Christchurch doesnt fall into that category.
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Re: I dont like OZ, will I like NZ
Originally Posted by podgypossum
But point #2 is relevant.. where is the nearest BIG city on the South Island of NZ? Even Christchurch doesnt fall into that category.
But seriously, nowhere over here is really that far from anywhere else. I know that is a draw for lots of people. When I consider venturing out, unless it is to the N. Island, I don't consider any other means of transport but the car/truck. The majority of the SI. is mountains and there is no road access as such, but you can still drive from say Christchurch to Nelson in about 6 hours and that is half the Island. The rest you just have to be adventurous to visit, but it's still not that far away NZ is an accessable place. I am not going to say it has the bright lights and city streets of other countries but heh, this is NZ. |
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If she moves to New Zealand l bet that within 2 years she will either move back to the UK or to a different part of Australia.
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I agree that it is a draw for a lot of people and good luck to them, and i'm glad you love it there. That is why i said it suits a specific type of person and you are obviously one of them. I dearly wish i was too, as the scenery in NZ is certainly spectacular, but after the first 6mths of travelling around and seeing different places i just felt dead inside. We dont really know what sort of she is, and what things she enjoys in life, maybe it will be perfect for her... i truly hope it is for her sake. I just put down my personal experience of it and thankfully you've put yours which gives a good balance, and i am glad we can do that without having to fall out... :D
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Originally Posted by podgypossum
...and i am glad we can do that without having to fall out... :D
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[QUOTE=WheelsOfSteel]
3: Hate the heat. 4: Hate the fact that there are no seasons. QUOTE] Neither of those should be a problem. |
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