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dodge26 Oct 1st 2009 9:31 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
Good post this. This has been our 5 year plan and it look like the wheels may have come off, just 3 months ago we were mindset sell the house end of the year with looking to move next June ish. But with the exchange rate and the bleak opportunities within my trade, things have taken a different turn. I never thought I would say it but we are going to move back north and see how things pan out in Oz. Think my mum and dad will be happy though, not told them yet though. Just a pointer last time I was in Oz it was 296 to the pound:thumbdown:

dave99 Oct 1st 2009 9:59 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
Its not all bad though, for those of us thinking of returning to the UK after a few years in aus the exchange rate is actually pretty good right now !:rofl:

Vash the Stampede Oct 1st 2009 10:40 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy (Post 7979151)
Out of interest, of those with the 'sell in UK and buy in Aus' plan based on the pre GFC world economies prior to 1 year ago, how many are still implementing this plan now ?

We had hoped to sell in the UK, but since we'd already bought in Australia more than two years ago, it's not a priority. We'll now be renting out our UK house and moving into our Aussie one.

:)

DownUnderPaddy Feb 28th 2010 10:34 am

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy (Post 7979151)
Sept 2008 : Changing 200k GBP resulted in 530k AUD
Sept 2009 : The same exchange results in 360k AUD

At the same time, the median house price in Melbourne a year ago was 450k
1 year on, it is touching close to 500k.

Just 5 months later:

360k from a 1.8 exchange and 500k median house price now has become....
340k from a 1.7 exchange and 540k median.

For those selling in the UK, exchanging the proceeds, buying in AUS, this is a swing from +80k to -200k in just under 1.5 years.
What a different playing field for those following that path now !

That gap keeps widening !
http://www.news.com.au/money/propert...-1225835436896

Vash the Stampede Feb 28th 2010 11:20 am

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
Moral of the story: if you can't move to a country without the help of a wildly imbalanced exchange rate, you probably can't afford to do it at all.

jad n rich Feb 28th 2010 1:50 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
Lifestyle :lol: we must remember nobody was doing this for the financial gain.

Beaches and endless sunshine all still free, well actually its peeing down for about the third week, however I prefer that, suns too dangerous here anyway:eek:

I look back at when we came out, never gave the exchange rate much thought :eek: jumped on the roulette wheel and it worked out fine. Seems crazy when you read how many threads now get dedicated to every cent it moves.

koalakim Feb 28th 2010 5:23 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
Maybe we're concerned about the exchange rate because probably none of us are doing this in our 20's. Most of you have houses, families - all stuff you've spent years building up and coming over now the current issues will set you back a few years.

I feel like we've gone back to when we first got married now - I know it's a bit different for us starting a business from scratch which hasn't been easy but I never quite expected 1.80 to the pound (and we were lucky....) and a bigger mortgage! I had hoped for a little bit of an easier time as when we first started putting the wheels in motion the average was 2.20-2.40 and we could have got a decent place for 350k now you're looking at the current rate and houses around 100k more and that's just in 3 years!

Yes, we not just here for financial gain and getting more $ for our pounds for us it was mainly a lifestyle choice but the problem now is we are going to have to work twice as hard and then not get to see anything of this wonderful country we came to! We had visions of nipping off here and there on a quiet week but now we just can't afford to!

Unfortunately it's all stuff out of our control so we have to make the best of it!

Kapri Feb 28th 2010 7:23 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8382840)
Moral of the story: if you can't move to a country without the help of a wildly imbalanced exchange rate, you probably can't afford to do it at all.

There's some truth in this Vash :(

We have decided to save up enough money for our start up costs in Australia.
It will mean very hard saving and no luxuries for 18 months.

We will let our house here and rent in Australia. I'd prefer to do this rather than see our equity frittered away on flights, rent etc.

I think it's the only way at the moment.

Lyx Feb 28th 2010 7:54 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 8383527)

We have decided to save up enough money for our start up costs in Australia.
It will mean very hard saving and no luxuries for 18 months.

We will let our house here and rent in Australia. I'd prefer to do this rather than see our equity frittered away on flights, rent etc.

I think it's the only way at the moment.

Your plans sound identical to ours. :)
I also am keeping it in mind that we can rent our uk home for 6 years so hopefully in that time the £ and UK housing market will recover, but even if it is much the same at least we'll have made a further 6 years mortgage payments.
Hopefully we'll be settled and a bit more financially secure in Oz by then and the UK equity can be used constructively in Oz. ;)

Kapri Feb 28th 2010 9:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Lyx (Post 8383580)
Your plans sound identical to ours. :)
I also am keeping it in mind that we can rent our uk home for 6 years so hopefully in that time the £ and UK housing market will recover, but even if it is much the same at least we'll have made a further 6 years mortgage payments.
Hopefully we'll be settled and a bit more financially secure in Oz by then and the UK equity can be used constructively in Oz. ;)

We're hedging our bets too. if we don't like it in Australia we will be able to come back without it causing us too much financial pain.

Now is not the time to be making rash financial decisions :fingerscrossed:

MaCCCa Feb 28th 2010 9:35 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 
We are moving over in October and will be coming with literally the shirts on our backs as Our house sale will just cover our debts. Is this a better position to be in? We are staying with relatives for some months before renting. So we will be starting from scratch.

2plus3 Mar 3rd 2010 12:23 am

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by MaCCCa (Post 8383773)
We are moving over in October and will be coming with literally the shirts on our backs as Our house sale will just cover our debts. Is this a better position to be in? We are staying with relatives for some months before renting. So we will be starting from scratch.

I guess if you've got nothing then you've nothing to lose; its a positive position to be in :)

Kari

hwilson Mar 4th 2010 8:29 am

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by Louiseh86 (Post 7979252)
We sold in the UK and plan to buy here but we won't exchange till it reaches 2.2 at the very least, ideally we're looking at 2.4.

We don't mind waiting, we don't know where we want to live yet or what type of house we want to buy so we're happy to rent for a while. At the moment the current exchange rate is irrelevant to us, we're happy to keep our money in the UK earning about 3.5% on instant access (just in case the rate changes suddenly! ;)) :)

3.5% with instant access!

Would you mind sharing where that can be had?

DownUnderPaddy Mar 4th 2010 1:40 pm

Re: How things change in 1 year !
 

Originally Posted by hwilson (Post 8394361)
3.5% with instant access!

Would you mind sharing where that can be had?

Instant Access @ 3.5% ? Here's one :
http://www.alliance-leicester.co.uk/...xible-isa.aspx

ref http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/best-cash-isa

hwilson Mar 4th 2010 9:10 pm

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Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy (Post 8395140)

Thanks DownUnderPaddy. I knew there had to be a catch, and it's the fact it's an ISA with interest paid yearly. I'm hoping not to be in the UK in a year, and still hopeful for a post election. reversal of the exchange rate, so that money can be transferred to Australia.
Anyone know of any accounts paying reasonable interest on a monthly basis with no penalty access?


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