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mono Feb 23rd 2010 4:20 pm

How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Lots of people come to Australia for the sunshine.

Does it make that much difference to your life?

mono Feb 23rd 2010 4:24 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
And yes - the word ''weather'' is missing from one of the options. Never mind.

jayr Feb 23rd 2010 4:36 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Lots to be honest.

I enjoy going to the beach, but living in Brisbane that means a 1 -1.5 hour trip so I don;t go as often as I might. However, sunny weather is much more than "going to the beach".

The result of a warm and sunny climate is all pervasive in how Australians live their lives.

It means our kids play sport; lots of sport, because it isn't raining, or cold, or the ground is hard, or frosty or muddy.

It means we have friends around or go to friends more because we can just have them sit outside in the back yard and throw something on the BBQ without the stress of planning dinner for weeks in advance.

It means you ask your friends to go camping.

It means your kids friends come round and play in the pool, and not just play on the Playstation.

It means suburban streets are "full" every morning of people of all ages taking exercise, jogging, walking with friends or walking the dog and keeping fitter than they might otherwise.

It means getting out and doing stuff outdoors and appreciating nature.

It means the beach in the summer, and bushwalks in the winter.

It means (in QLD) maximum daytime temps of about 20C (at wort) in the winter, with cloudless, bright blue, happy skies making for happy people.

It means when I am mowing my front yard (because it is sunny and it is not raining) that friends pass and toot the horn and wave. Some will stop and come in. Others will pass and return with 6 beers to share and have a yarn.

There are lots of reasons why the sun makes a difference, and few of them are about going to the beach, which I can't do when I am at work.

Amazulu Feb 23rd 2010 4:51 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I love sunshine, and the heat - they are integral parts of life in Australia.

For most of the summer so far I've been in the pool after work, playing with my son and drinking beer. MO this afternnon is; get home, get changed into some swimming shorts, pop 3 Coronas, dive in.

I love it.

Amazulu Feb 23rd 2010 4:56 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by jayr (Post 8370032)
It means your kids friends come round and play in the pool, and not just play on the Playstation.

I love this aspect. Our house always seems to have the noise of children playing and having fun - which is music to my ears. Our neighbours across the road have just got a pool - and it sounds like their 4 kids live in it!

koalakim Feb 23rd 2010 5:05 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I'm a happy koala in the sun! I've always hated winter since I was a small child and even struggle now with the Mellie winter! We had a cold night last night and it dropped down to 18 degrees in our lounge and we felt really cold this morning :ohmy:

I really don't know how I would have coped this winter in the UK with all that snow. My worst nightmare is driving in snow and I had a 3 hour a day commute over there so I think I would have become agrophobic this winter!

I basically just seize up when it's cold...now if only they could make Aussie houses like UK ones in the winter (i.e. proper heating, insulation and decent double glazing) then everything would be rosy!

So yep, the sun makes a big difference to me!

Vash the Stampede Feb 23rd 2010 5:38 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I voted for "I don't mind sunny weather but I'd prefer a little less sunshine, thanks."

The Australian sun is my mortal enemy. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I am only happy when it rains, but I do prefer rain and snow to scorching weather and heatwaves.

I did not return home to Australia for the weather. If I had to choose between the UK and Australia based entirely upon their climates, I would choose the UK!

jimbo_d Feb 23rd 2010 5:49 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
No.1 reason why poms emigrate

DeadVim Feb 23rd 2010 5:49 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8370126)
I voted for "I don't mind sunny weather but I'd prefer a little less sunshine, thanks."

The Australian sun is my mortal enemy. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I am only happy when it rains, but I do prefer rain and snow to scorching weather and heatwaves.!

I did not return home to Australia for the weather. If I had to choose between the UK and Australia based entirely upon their climates, I would choose the UK!

Second all of that, I actually exercised more in the UK ... happy was I tramping through the rain/snow ... now I find I'm delaying the bike ride until the chances of contracting terminal cancer are below 20%.

Bring on winter ...

ozhappy981 Feb 23rd 2010 7:04 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8369998)
Lots of people come to Australia for the sunshine.

Does it make that much difference to your life?

We came to Perth because of the weather. And yes, the sun does make a huge difference to our lives.

This summer we've had 78 continuous days without rain, just lovely sunshine. And even when it did eventually rain it was "blink and you miss it".

Just the fact that nearly every day when we wake up it's sunny. And it's lovely and warm for so much of the year. Even in winter everything is green.

I am not wild about the hot north-easterly winds and humidity we get in Perth in February. But hey, even that is preferable to the long, dank, dark, dreary, wet and cold UK winters.

The snow photos from the UK this winter looked pretty. But I was so glad not to be actually living and working there during that winter.

jad n rich Feb 23rd 2010 7:12 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8370126)
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The Australian sun is my mortal enemy. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I am only happy when it rains, but I do prefer rain and snow to scorching weather and heatwaves.!


Third that!

I actually got to dislike it, not so much the temps, but the intensity:eek: people say avoid the sun 10 - 2, if you look at the gov sunsmart UV alert its actually more like 8 - 4 most days.

The dislike became serious after a few years and the odd suspicious mole or three started. 2 of my sons and I have scars from skin removal. We do all the sunsafety things but as any dermatologist will tell you fair haried/skinned people were NOT designed for this climate.

The bottom line is skin cancer is thought of by most people as just a mole which can be chopped off, bit of a scar no worries:rolleyes: - reality is skin cancer if left or even once removed can be the start of far more serious cancers. Sunday paper here was saying 16% of workclaims are now skin cancer claims.

I use the pool more at night than daytime, ditto beach , sports etc etc,

Vash the Stampede Feb 23rd 2010 7:12 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 8370147)
Second all of that, I actually exercised more in the UK ... happy was I tramping through the rain/snow ... now I find I'm delaying the bike ride until the chances of contracting terminal cancer are below 20%.

Bring on winter ...

Yep, I loved chucking on warm clothes, solid shoes or boots and a nice big heavy overcoat to brave the rain/snow/wind or whatever else the weather was going to throw at me.

Overcast days are fantastic and I enjoy walking in the rain without an umbrella!

:thumbup:

moneypenny20 Feb 23rd 2010 7:20 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I need the sun and can't imagine getting bored with seeing it but who knows? We have plenty of grey days but obviously masses of blue skies and bright sunshine are the norm. Heat doesn't bother me, infact I can only think of about half a dozen days in the last four years when I've felt too hot. However being cold makes me ill. It's a no brainer for me.

ABCDiamond Feb 23rd 2010 7:39 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
After 33 votes:

75.76% Happier
18.18% Prefer a little less sunshine (living in QLD maybe ? :D )

3.03% No Difference

3.03% Don’t Like it

mono Feb 23rd 2010 7:39 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8370126)
I voted for "I don't mind sunny weather but I'd prefer a little less sunshine, thanks."

The Australian sun is my mortal enemy. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I am only happy when it rains, but I do prefer rain and snow to scorching weather and heatwaves.

I did not return home to Australia for the weather. If I had to choose between the UK and Australia based entirely upon their climates, I would choose the UK!

I personally vastly prefer the UK's climate - simply because the Summer's are pleasant rather than scorching and the colder winters, with Christmas and New Year, are actually quite a nice change that makes you enjoy and appreciate warmer conditions all the more when they are there.

An Aussie friend of my wife was staying with us when we were still in the UK and we were outside on a really warm day in Summer and she remarked how, even though it was hot, the sun didn't feel as intense as it does in Melbourne. Now I've lived here I can DEFINITELY see what she was saying!!

The Autumn colours in the UK are gorgeous and you simply don't get that in Australia. And before some smartarse posts a picture of a botanical garden somewhere in Australia - it's NOT the same so don't even try and claim it is.

Sun is nice, but it isn't always that good for you (I swear a lot of people ignore this fact) and can get a little boring. A clear blue sky stops being so appealing when it's all you see 95% of the time.

ABCDiamond Feb 23rd 2010 7:49 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370312)
A clear blue sky stops being so appealing when it's all you see 95% of the time.

For some people... :thumbup:

How about a poll to see how many ?

mono Feb 23rd 2010 7:52 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8370324)
For some people... :thumbup:

How about a poll to see how many ?

Merely making the point that, as Gary says in Men Behaving Badly, when there's always biscuits in the tin, where's the fun in biscuits?

kporte Feb 23rd 2010 8:00 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370328)
Merely making the point that, as Gary says in Men Behaving Badly, when there's always biscuits in the tin, where's the fun in biscuits?

Like marriage then eh? From now on if I fancy a "biscuit" I shall pop along to Woolies and stalk the aisles until I see a "biscuit" I fancy eating!

infinjohn Feb 23rd 2010 8:07 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Makes a huge difference for me. Being from South Africa and living in Europe the last 10 years i can definitely say i miss it! A lot! :thumbup:

One of the main reasons were moving to AUS! Well that and almost 300 days a year of golf ;)

Nu-Shooz Feb 23rd 2010 8:14 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
The sun makes no difference to me, i am happy without it, can live without it. There are more important things in my life:)

TheSun Feb 23rd 2010 8:16 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8369998)
Lots of people come to Australia for the sunshine.

Does it make that much difference to your life?

I clicked the first option as i really do love seeing the sun and it does make me feel better for some reason, however... sometimes it does get too bloody hot and i sit in doors moaning about it, a bit like when i was in England but i was moaning about the cold!
To be honest i dont think you can beat a good British summer with the long days, sitting in a beer garden at 9.30pm and still light. Prob is those nights are few and far between.

mono Feb 23rd 2010 8:19 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by TheSun (Post 8370364)
I clicked the first option as i really do love seeing the sun and it does make me feel better for some reason, however... sometimes it does get too bloody hot and i sit in doors moaning about it, a bit like when i was in England but i was moaning about the cold!
To be honest i dont think you can beat a good British summer with the long days, sitting in a beer garden at 9.30pm and still light. Prob is those nights are few and far between.

I think you get quite a few nights like that between May and September, actually. Obviously the really long nights are only around July but it's still pretty good.

I admit that you can get a dud summer sometimes though.

mono Feb 23rd 2010 8:21 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Nu-Shooz (Post 8370362)
The sun makes no difference to me, i am happy without it, can live without it. There are more important things in my life:)

I have to say the sun being out (or not) doesn't make a jot of difference to me either.

northernbird Feb 23rd 2010 8:49 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I am not a lover of extreme heat and do tend to hibernate over 35 degrees. However I still like the sun to be shining and it does improve my mood a massive amount if it is a sunny day.

Lord_Farquar Feb 23rd 2010 9:03 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I love sunshine that's why I am moving to Yuma, Arizona.

sonlymewalter Feb 23rd 2010 9:12 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Sunshine every time:thumbsup:

I get cold watching sky news when it shows it's snowing:unsure:

Alfresco Feb 23rd 2010 9:29 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by jayr (Post 8370032)
Lots to be honest.

I enjoy going to the beach, but living in Brisbane that means a 1 -1.5 hour trip so I don;t go as often as I might. However, sunny weather is much more than "going to the beach".

The result of a warm and sunny climate is all pervasive in how Australians live their lives.

It means our kids play sport; lots of sport, because it isn't raining, or cold, or the ground is hard, or frosty or muddy.

It means we have friends around or go to friends more because we can just have them sit outside in the back yard and throw something on the BBQ without the stress of planning dinner for weeks in advance.

It means you ask your friends to go camping.

It means your kids friends come round and play in the pool, and not just play on the Playstation.

It means suburban streets are "full" every morning of people of all ages taking exercise, jogging, walking with friends or walking the dog and keeping fitter than they might otherwise.

It means getting out and doing stuff outdoors and appreciating nature.

It means the beach in the summer, and bushwalks in the winter.

It means (in QLD) maximum daytime temps of about 20C (at wort) in the winter, with cloudless, bright blue, happy skies making for happy people.

It means when I am mowing my front yard (because it is sunny and it is not raining) that friends pass and toot the horn and wave. Some will stop and come in. Others will pass and return with 6 beers to share and have a yarn.

There are lots of reasons why the sun makes a difference, and few of them are about going to the beach, which I can't do when I am at work.

:thumbsup: We're planning to enjoy it the same.


Originally Posted by infinjohn (Post 8370350)
Makes a huge difference for me. Being from South Africa and living in Europe the last 10 years i can definitely say i miss it! A lot! :thumbup:

One of the main reasons were moving to AUS! Well that and almost 300 days a year of golf ;)

Same. Also from there and miss proper sunshine.


Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370372)
I think you get quite a few nights like that between May and September, actually. Obviously the really long nights are only around July but it's still pretty good.

I admit that you can get a dud summer sometimes though.

Last two (non)summers in fact. That's three years of cool/cold/rainy weather. Not just my opinion, it's documented.


Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 8370472)
Sunshine every time:thumbsup:

I get cold watching sky news when it shows it's snowing:unsure:

Yep sunshine every time.

mono Feb 23rd 2010 9:33 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8370495)
Last two (non)summers in fact. That's three years of cool/cold/rainy weather. Not just my opinion, it's documented.

Mmm, I already admitted that UK summers can be duds - so not sure what you've added there, really...and who was saying it wasn't documented?

The fact that a recent two have been duds doesn't make that the norm.

And last year's was much better. It was 2007 and 2008 that were the duds.

And the Autumn colours in 2008 and 2009 were beautiful - so that compensates in the eyes of some. Not you clearly - but we don't all have to agree with you.

Betty Boot Feb 23rd 2010 9:38 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Sunshine wins everytime:D A:After 6 years of glorious Perth weather and 4 years back in UK i am craving consistant summers with plenty of Vit D. I just dont feel healthy stuck indoors with the heating on full throttle:sneaky:

mono Feb 23rd 2010 9:43 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8370495)
Last two (non)summers in fact. That's three years of cool/cold/rainy weather. Not just my opinion, it's documented.
.

At least the UK isn't in the grips of a major drought.

ABCDiamond Feb 23rd 2010 9:45 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370524)
At least the UK isn't in the grips of a major drought.

What parts of Australia are still in drought ?

Alfresco Feb 23rd 2010 9:47 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
Mmm, I already admitted that UK summers can be duds - so not sure what you've added there, really...and who was saying it wasn't documented?

It's a free forum, I can add any extra information I want. It was stated in case someone asked.

The fact that a recent two have been duds doesn't make that the norm.

And last year's was much better. It was 2007 and 2008 that were the duds.

It's actually been three now. Last year's wasn't much better.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627493&page=23

And the Autumn colours in 2008 and 2009 were beautiful - so that compensates in the eyes of some.

Agreed, they were beautiful.

Not you clearly - but we don't all have to agree with you.

Of course you don't, I'm not trying to get people to agree with me, I'm just stating my own opinion, just like you and others do on this forum.


Have a nice day!

mohogony Feb 23rd 2010 9:58 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370524)
At least the UK isn't in the grips of a major drought.

l thought the droughts over in most of OZ

mono Feb 23rd 2010 10:25 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I'm sorry but fairly recent news articles continue to refer to the existence of a drought in Australia. There certainly isn't much rain in Melbourne.

I think you have to be a real apologist to start proclaiming that the drought is finished.

Just a sample:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5127CY20090203

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/...ght_12-01.html

http://www.circleofblue.org/waternew...worried-towns/

http://www.merimbulanewsonline.com.a...d/1719012.aspx

ABCDiamond Feb 23rd 2010 10:40 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370599)
I'm sorry but recent news articles continue to refer to the existence of a drought in Australia. There certainly isn't much rain in Melbourne.

I think you have to be a real apologist to start proclaiming that the drought is finished.

Just a sample:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5127CY20090203 Tue Feb 3, 2009

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/...ght_12-01.html Series AIR DATE: Dec. 1, 2009 - unspecified interview date The key question is whether farmers can hang on until the next sustained rain happens.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waternew...worried-towns/ March 9, 2009

http://www.merimbulanewsonline.com.a...d/1719012.aspx 06 Jan, 2010 As flood warnings continue and farmers in the central west of the state battle floods,


Australia floods peak, but farmers see export boon
Jan 4, 2010 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...0:b30346364:z0

January 10, 2010 QUEENSLAND'S central west has been issued with further flood warnings.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html

Floods and Droughts... confusing, yes ?

ABCDiamond Feb 23rd 2010 10:41 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8370559)
l thought the droughts over in most of OZ

You did say most of Australia, maybe Melbourne still has a drought ?

moneypenny20 Feb 23rd 2010 10:57 pm

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8370629)
You did say most of Australia, maybe Melbourne still has a drought ?

We're not in a drought at the moment. Northern QLD, NT and Tassie are rarely drought ridden. Not saying there's not a water problem here but not an apologist :confused: either.

Dreamy Feb 24th 2010 7:29 am

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8370668)
We're not in a drought at the moment. Northern QLD, NT and Tassie are rarely drought ridden. Not saying there's not a water problem here but not an apologist :confused: either.

just after we moved to SE Qld, 2 years ago, some random bloke on another forum asked me how I could ever want to move to a drought ridden country and posted a picture from some BBC website showing cracked, scorched earth..

I took a photo out of the back of our house, of the flood river merrily running past the back door and the lush, knee high, green grass (which at that time of year you could see growing!) and pointed out that few places suffered from drought once Dreamy was in situ.

(Yorkshire is still suffering the after effects of me living there for 10 years)

Anyway, back to the sun.

I like bright, sunny days. It isn't the be all and end all of my life though. Yesterday it was overcast in the Blue Mountains and the rellies took Eldest2kids on a bush walk in Katoomba. If the sun had been out it would probably have been too hot for them to do that. Fortunately, so far, we seem to get a good mix of glorious sunshine, rain, and cooler overcast days.

And the grass still keeps flipping growing!

ukjoiner Feb 24th 2010 7:37 am

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 
I took my daughter to Melbourne over the UK winter. I am always at the doctors in the winter with her. She has a grey complexion, is always lifeless and upset, dark circles under her eyes, constant tummy gripes etc etc. He could'nt find anything the matter but she was a different child in the sun. We spent 4 weeks there. Not only was her skin radiant but so was her mood! She has (touch wood) been better since but people comment that she is going back to 'grey again'.

DeadVim Feb 24th 2010 7:46 am

Re: How much difference does sun REALLY make to you?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8370312)
I personally vastly prefer the UK's climate - simply because the Summer's are pleasant rather than scorching and the colder winters, with Christmas and New Year, are actually quite a nice change that makes you enjoy and appreciate warmer conditions all the more when they are there.

An Aussie friend of my wife was staying with us when we were still in the UK and we were outside on a really warm day in Summer and she remarked how, even though it was hot, the sun didn't feel as intense as it does in Melbourne. Now I've lived here I can DEFINITELY see what she was saying!!

The Autumn colours in the UK are gorgeous and you simply don't get that in Australia. And before some smartarse posts a picture of a botanical garden somewhere in Australia - it's NOT the same so don't even try and claim it is.

Sun is nice, but it isn't always that good for you (I swear a lot of people ignore this fact) and can get a little boring. A clear blue sky stops being so appealing when it's all you see 95% of the time.

Disagree ... love the blues and greens and colour in general ... in Oz it is so much clearer (5 years in for me) ... but I also love the landscape of the UK (most of it) ... the night sky in Oz is also spectacular :thumbup:


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