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stuartsummers1980 Nov 15th 2011 12:59 am

How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Back in the UK when buying a used car they used to say as a rule of thumb you didn't really want it to have done more than 10,000 miles per year on the clock. Is there a similar amount when applying that to km with Aus cars? Obviously I know first and foremost you want to look at a good service history, and that car's here drive further and age a bit more gracefully due to the better climates, so you certainly couldn't apply the 10,000 miles (16,000km) rule out here, but interested to know if there is an Aus specific figure used as an unwritten rule? (I'll be buying in Melbourne if that makes a difference).

(Specifically thinking 2005/06 hatchbacks, auto transmission, between $10-13k, Japanese models, or Holden.)

Thanks.

eddie007 Nov 15th 2011 1:08 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Cars in WA hold their value .... What with no MOT rquirements and with the kinder conditions your vehicle is running under the engines and bodywork appear to last so much longer...

Higher than we would consider usual mileage is usual....

Longer distances here...

The Egg (mitsubishi Delica... Looks like an egg on wheels.. Hence HIS mates have dubbed it the Egg) has done 400,000 kms... And is running strong...

But beware grey imports... Can be hard to insure and the miles on their clocks may have been harder miles than aussie miles..

chris955 Nov 15th 2011 2:24 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
There are just way too many variables really, it depends on make and model, the way the car was driven and serviced and where in the country it is from. Modern cars don't tend to rust like older cars so the 'better' weather thing isn't so important. I would think that anything in the region of 15,000k's a year would be considered normal and acceptable.

Amazulu Nov 15th 2011 3:32 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by stuartsummers1980 (Post 9733060)
(Specifically thinking 2005/06 hatchbacks, auto transmission, between $10-13k, Japanese models, or Holden.)

Thanks.

John Hughes Hyundai here in Perth are curently advertising new Getzs (in runout but a great little car), fully loaded and with a 5 year warranty for about this price.

I'm sure there are similar deals in Victoria.

spartacus Nov 15th 2011 3:36 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by stuartsummers1980 (Post 9733060)
Back in the UK when buying a used car they used to say as a rule of thumb you didn't really want it to have done more than 10,000 miles per year on the clock. Is there a similar amount when applying that to km with Aus cars? Obviously I know first and foremost you want to look at a good service history, and that car's here drive further and age a bit more gracefully due to the better climates, so you certainly couldn't apply the 10,000 miles (16,000km) rule out here, but interested to know if there is an Aus specific figure used as an unwritten rule? (I'll be buying in Melbourne if that makes a difference).

(Specifically thinking 2005/06 hatchbacks, auto transmission, between $10-13k, Japanese models, or Holden.)

Thanks.

I think 25,000 kms per year is the average.

DadAgain Nov 15th 2011 3:51 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
2005 model? $10k?...

You should be looking at less than 80,000K on the clock ($10k is quite a bit for that age so you can be fussy). This is where it starts getting interesting too - since 80,000K service is typically a big one with some major work done it might be better to get one with 85,000 on clock post service rather than 78,000 pre-service.

As for Toyota v Holden - No contest. When you're looking at cars of that age the extra reliability and cheaper servicing costs of Toyota make it a *must* in my opinion (I will probably never buy a non-Japanese vehicle again after experiements with Landrover and Holden and hearing tales of others with Peugeot, Ford and Ducati compared to my Toyota and Kawasaki experiences that have been trouble free!).

It may cost you an extra $1-2K for a toyota over a Holden of same age condition - but might well pay for itself at the first service!

Red_V_Roger Nov 15th 2011 8:21 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Toyota's are not even run in until 200,000 kms!

My Hiace camper van is 20 years old and has 350,000 kms on it. No way I would change it for any of this Fiat rubbish that Winnebago and the likes are using as their chassis now.

PaulandNic Nov 15th 2011 8:30 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9733550)
Toyota's are not even run in until 200,000 kms!

The *norm* i'm sure, but missus's Corolla after only 118,000k... :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...4_192537_n.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u..._4542608_n.jpg

lol

chris955 Nov 15th 2011 8:37 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
I actually would pick a Hyundai before practically everything else but Toyota next and Holden would be somewhere behind Trabant.

Red_V_Roger Nov 15th 2011 8:55 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 9733567)
The *norm* i'm sure, but missus's Corolla after only 118,000k... :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

lol

There you have it 'missus and cars' The engine has a dipstick for a reason! :rofl:

PaulandNic Nov 15th 2011 8:59 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9733610)
There you have it 'missus and cars' The engine has a dipstick for a reason! :rofl:

Agreed! ... but how to read it now ?!?!

Oh and of course ... that's MY job! ... :rolleyes: :D

chris955 Nov 15th 2011 10:27 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
I find most cars seem to have the dipstick located behind the steering wheel.


Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9733610)
There you have it 'missus and cars' The engine has a dipstick for a reason! :rofl:


chris955 Nov 15th 2011 10:28 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Average is apparently 16,000k's.


Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 9733205)
I think 25,000 kms per year is the average.


sonlymewalter Nov 16th 2011 10:22 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 9733567)
The *norm* i'm sure, but missus's Corolla after only 118,000k... :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...4_192537_n.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u..._4542608_n.jpg

lol

wot? wot we lookin at there:blink:

Red_V_Roger Nov 16th 2011 10:26 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9736054)
wot? wot we lookin at there:blink:

Looks like its thrown a con rod off the big end to me...but hard to tell from the photos.

sonlymewalter Nov 16th 2011 10:28 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9736063)
Looks like its thrown a con rod off the big end to me...but hard to tell from the photos.

really:eek:




(i haven't a clue wot you onabout willis:lol:)

Red_V_Roger Nov 16th 2011 10:32 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9736065)
really:eek:




(i haven't a clue wot you onabout willis:lol:)

Sorry I am not allowed to advise you further...I am not a licenced motor repairer! But I tell you what, I am a whole lot better at it than most of the licenced monkeys I have seen!

sonlymewalter Nov 16th 2011 10:33 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9736070)
Sorry I am not allowed to advise you further...I am not a licenced motor repairer! But I tell you what, I am a whole lot better at it than most of the licenced monkeys I have seen!

they prolly trained 4 years to get to be that useless:lol:

Red_V_Roger Nov 16th 2011 10:37 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9736074)
they prolly trained 4 years to get to be that useless:lol:

I've have got staff that have made a life time's career out of being useless.

sonlymewalter Nov 16th 2011 10:40 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9736080)
I've have got staff that have made a life time's career out of being useless.

what's their grammar like? Any good:D

Red_V_Roger Nov 16th 2011 11:14 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9736087)
what's their grammar like? Any good:D

prolly

sonlymewalter Nov 16th 2011 11:22 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9736130)
prolly

:D

PaulandNic Nov 16th 2011 12:56 pm

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9736063)
Looks like its thrown a con rod off the big end to me...but hard to tell from the photos.

Is the correct answer!

Threw it out the front casing, and in turn the piece of casing went straight thru the radiator ... :ohmy:

Kinda made a racket TBH.

Got a 67,000k recorded replacement delivered for $500 and my sons friend did the swap for $250.

Coulda been a lot more I spose, but yeah good ole Toyota eh! ... :rolleyes:

KJCherokee Nov 16th 2011 9:12 pm

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Depends on the type of car and what it's used for. Small engines tend to have to run a lot faster to get enough power and consequently will wear out sooner. A Getz or similar sized car with 120,000 on the clock is probably getting a bit weary: a Falcon with the same mileage is just getting into its stride.

No-one in their right mind would buy a small car for long distance touring, so high mileage on such a car is usually indicative of a lot of stop-start motoring which wears it out faster. My 4yo Jeep has done over 25,000/yr, but that includes regular cross-country trips (Brisbane-Adelaide, Brisbane-Sydney, Brisbane-Alice Springs, etc) which are a lot less wearing than driving around the city.

Formula 1 engines do around 5,000km/yr and are then totally stuffed. Trucks do 100,000/yr and keep that up for decades.

chris955 Nov 17th 2011 4:50 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Any manufacturer can suffer a component failure, a friend had to have his BMW replaced with a new one after they had changed the engine and transmission and various other major parts, in the end the only thing they could do was give him a new car.


Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 9736341)

Coulda been a lot more I spose, but yeah good ole Toyota eh! ... :rolleyes:


hater Nov 21st 2011 11:26 pm

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
BMW is far away from qualitiy at the moment.... My former employer had different models in use...And the malfunction and failures rised three times when the new versions arrived....
And we were on their "priority list" as they are very keen that EMS (especially in their hometown:D ) uses their cars....

;)

BadgeIsBack Nov 22nd 2011 6:22 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by hater (Post 9746949)
BMW is far away from qualitiy at the moment.... My former employer had different models in use...And the malfunction and failures rised three times when the new versions arrived....
And we were on their "priority list" as they are very keen that EMS (especially in their hometown:D ) uses their cars....

;)

Highly variable I reckon.

We drive everywhere yet only put on 14k a year. Years ago, Abc diamond suggested that Australians don't necessarily drive stellar distances (but when they do it's often country miles- I know which kind of k's I'd rather have).

I don't mind cars with higher mileages.
Seems to be a big difference between a car with 200k and 300k.
At one end if the scale you can have a sweetly running car - at the other a lot of components heading south.

If I had a car with 250k + I would want to be putting the ks on, not someone else.

Stacks of high mileage Holdens and Fords - I don't necessarily subscribe to the view that Japanese cars are ultra-holy! Having said that the camry from the late 90s is supposed to be particularly good and some people swear by them.

My Jap ute needed a main seal at 340k and I only got rid of it because I got a car for 300 bucks with a RWC!

Hino Nov 23rd 2011 4:46 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9733203)
John Hughes Hyundai here in Perth are curently advertising new Getzs (in runout but a great little car), fully loaded and with a 5 year warranty for about this price.

I'm sure there are similar deals in Victoria.

I bought the 'entry level' Getz seven years ago and I'm more than happy with it. Great build and ride quality for the price, and with power steering, power windows, power mirrors and A/C as standard I don't think you could ask for more in a city car. Though my litle "city" car has taken me to most of Australia including trips from NSW to Ayres Rock filled with all my personal possesions and two trips from NSW to Cairns going 'up the guts'.

Did I mention the gas mileage ??? .........It's a top little car :thumbsup:

Amazulu Nov 23rd 2011 4:59 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 9749357)
I bought the 'entry level' Getz seven years ago and I'm more than happy with it. Great build and ride quality for the price, and with power steering, power windows, power mirrors and A/C as standard I don't think you could ask for more in a city car. Though my litle "city" car has taken me to most of Australia including trips from NSW to Ayres Rock filled with all my personal possesions and two trips from NSW to Cairns going 'up the guts'.

Did I mention the gas mileage ??? .........It's a top little car :thumbsup:

When I was over in SA a few years ago, I hired a 1.6l Getz. I loved it. It was like shit of a shovel and great fun to drive.

chris955 Nov 23rd 2011 5:35 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
I couldn't agree more, we bought one new 4 years ago and it has never given a moments trouble and is much better build quality than other cars we looked at.


Originally Posted by Hino (Post 9749357)
I bought the 'entry level' Getz seven years ago and I'm more than happy with it. Great build and ride quality for the price, and with power steering, power windows, power mirrors and A/C as standard I don't think you could ask for more in a city car. Though my litle "city" car has taken me to most of Australia including trips from NSW to Ayres Rock filled with all my personal possesions and two trips from NSW to Cairns going 'up the guts'.

Did I mention the gas mileage ??? .........It's a top little car :thumbsup:


paulry Nov 23rd 2011 2:18 pm

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by KJCherokee (Post 9737262)
Depends on the type of car and what it's used for. Small engines tend to have to run a lot faster to get enough power and consequently will wear out sooner. A Getz or similar sized car with 120,000 on the clock is probably getting a bit weary: a Falcon with the same mileage is just getting into its stride.No-one in their right mind would buy a small car for long distance touring, so high mileage on such a car is usually indicative of a lot of stop-start motoring which wears it out faster. My 4yo Jeep has done over 25,000/yr, but that includes regular cross-country trips (Brisbane-Adelaide, Brisbane-Sydney, Brisbane-Alice Springs, etc) which are a lot less wearing than driving around the city.

Formula 1 engines do around 5,000km/yr and are then totally stuffed. Trucks do 100,000/yr and keep that up for decades.

Yeah I agree. Our 2003 Falcon has about 200 000 on the clock and it still feels like a new car to drive. Plus it's built like a tank :sunglasses:

chris955 Nov 23rd 2011 8:29 pm

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Small engines aren't like small engines of old, they will go for just as long as big engines nowadays. Oddly enough I was talking about this to my wife yesterday, we personally know 3 people including a brother who have sold Falcons and bought Hyundai i30's. When you look on the roads the trend away from big cars is very obvious.

KJCherokee Nov 24th 2011 2:02 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9750756)
Small engines aren't like small engines of old, they will go for just as long as big engines nowadays. Oddly enough I was talking about this to my wife yesterday, we personally know 3 people including a brother who have sold Falcons and bought Hyundai i30's. When you look on the roads the trend away from big cars is very obvious.

Did they change because the car was high kms or because the smaller car was more economical and easier to drive in town? Anyway, this is irrelevant to the thread topic which relates to used cars!

chris955 Nov 24th 2011 2:14 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 
Just costing too much to own and drive a big car they didn't need.


Originally Posted by KJCherokee (Post 9751191)
Did they change because the car was high kms or because the smaller car was more economical and easier to drive in town? Anyway, this is irrelevant to the thread topic which relates to used cars!


KJCherokee Nov 24th 2011 5:27 am

Re: How many Km's on a used car is considered ok?
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9750756)
Small engines aren't like small engines of old, they will go for just as long as big engines nowadays.

Regardless of the age of the engine, a motor that cruises at 2,500-3,000 rpm will never last as long as an engine which cruises at 1,500-1,800 rpm.


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