Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
#91
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Ah the mature attitude of totally pointless insults huh? Maybe I wouldnt want the reasons why your family got a bonus. I actually couldnt care less why you got it.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Keep ROFL at your own joke but you might want to read this when you stop.
http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/cont....htm&page=1&H1
http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/cont....htm&page=1&H1
Tax bonus
Overview
If your 2007-08 taxable income was $100,000 or less and you paid tax, you could be eligible to receive a tax bonus payment of up to $900.
Overview
If your 2007-08 taxable income was $100,000 or less and you paid tax, you could be eligible to receive a tax bonus payment of up to $900.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
However, when you compare the median prices between Sydney and London........
Greater London
Detached Houses £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125) Source
Look at Bromley at: £527,135 (A$1,080,627)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses, is much much cheaper...
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Comparing Bromley to the whole of Sydney is not comparing Apples with Apples. Maybe try Bromley to Hornsby and I am being very kind to Hornsby.
I wouldn't say it is silly that the median prices in Sydney haven't really changed in the last 5 years.
However, when you compare the median prices between Sydney and London........
Greater London
Detached Houses £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125) Source
Look at Bromley at: £527,135 (A$1,080,627)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses, is much much cheaper...
However, when you compare the median prices between Sydney and London........
Greater London
Detached Houses £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125) Source
Look at Bromley at: £527,135 (A$1,080,627)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses, is much much cheaper...
#95
Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
That's easy for you to say when you have already benefitted! What about those of us who have been here for years, pay our tax at the same rate as everyone else and are on a modest income (under 100k between us) but have not recieved a single cent because we have just not quite fitted the criteria? We will be here paying the debts back like everyone else but haven't gained a cent out of it! :curse:
Maybe the government shoud look at trying to give something to those of us who still haven't received anything because we haven't got kids/didn't have PR to qualify or whatever.
Maybe the government shoud look at trying to give something to those of us who still haven't received anything because we haven't got kids/didn't have PR to qualify or whatever.
if you earn under 1ook surely you are entitled to this stimulas that is being paid out at the moment
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#96
Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
An in addition comparing only detached homes is misleading. We all know that the density of properties is far higher in London and detached homes are much rarer - however for the people living in a terraced house in many parts of London I'm sure they are not less desirable than a fibro home somewhere in Sydney.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Detached Houses (Median Prices)
Greater London £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses.
However, Horsnby houses have a median of $542,000
I also noticed that the Greater London prices are differentiated as follows:
Detached: £757,622 (A$1,553,125) 2.8 x times Sydney House prices
Semi-detached: £384,470 (A$788,164) 1.4 x Sydney house prices
Terraced: £346,704 (A$710,743) 1.3 x Sydney house prices
and
Flat: £295,144 (A$605,045) 1.5 x Sydney Flat/Unit prices
Sydney Unit prices are around $400,000.
Comparing Greater London to Sydney does make London about 50% higher than Sydney.
However, where does Greater London end, compared to Sydney ?
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Well this article from 2004 talks about 'Sydney’s huge western suburbs fibro belt' - 'built in the period between the war and the mid-1960s, when one in every four new houses in Australia was made of asbestos cement'. Whether or not they have all been renovated away since 2004, I don't know.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
I shouldnt have added Bromley in, to avoid confusion, I should have just left it at:
Detached Houses (Median Prices)
Greater London £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses.
However, Horsnby houses have a median of $542,000
I also noticed that the Greater London prices are differentiated as follows:
Detached: £757,622 (A$1,553,125) 2.8 x times Sydney House prices
Semi-detached: £384,470 (A$788,164) 1.4 x Sydney house prices
Terraced: £346,704 (A$710,743) 1.3 x Sydney house prices
and
Flat: £295,144 (A$605,045) 1.5 x Sydney Flat/Unit prices
Sydney Unit prices are around $400,000.
Comparing Greater London to Sydney does make London about 50% higher than Sydney.
However, where does Greater London end, compared to Sydney ?
Detached Houses (Median Prices)
Greater London £757,622 ( ie: A$1,553,125)
Sydney at about a median of $550,000, for houses.
However, Horsnby houses have a median of $542,000
I also noticed that the Greater London prices are differentiated as follows:
Detached: £757,622 (A$1,553,125) 2.8 x times Sydney House prices
Semi-detached: £384,470 (A$788,164) 1.4 x Sydney house prices
Terraced: £346,704 (A$710,743) 1.3 x Sydney house prices
and
Flat: £295,144 (A$605,045) 1.5 x Sydney Flat/Unit prices
Sydney Unit prices are around $400,000.
Comparing Greater London to Sydney does make London about 50% higher than Sydney.
However, where does Greater London end, compared to Sydney ?
Forget about the initial purchase price of the house you should think more about the total cost of buying which includes interest repayments over the term of the mortgage. You also don't talk about average incomes in London compared to Sydney which would make a difference to affordability in which London average salaries are significantly higher than Sydney.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Well this article from 2004 talks about 'Sydney’s huge western suburbs fibro belt' - 'built in the period between the war and the mid-1960s, when one in every four new houses in Australia was made of asbestos cement'. Whether or not they have all been renovated away since 2004, I don't know.
Mt Druitt, near Blacktown, was one such suburb, and they were clearing them in 2001/02 just as I left Sydney.
Another article reads: Sydney's western suburbs ... Many of its homes - mostly double-storey brick houses - were built in the last few years
There has been a LOT of new houses built in the last 20+ years in the Sydney Western Suburbs.
Your average house in the area now looks like:
this for $320,000
or
this for $550,000
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Forget about the initial purchase price of the house you should think more about the total cost of buying which includes interest repayments over the term of the mortgage. You also don't talk about average incomes in London compared to Sydney which would make a difference to affordability in which London average salaries are significantly higher than Sydney.
The best I have done so far was the following comparison:
May 2008 Average Weekly Earning Comparisons
Australia = $1,183.10 pw (+9% Super = $1,289) at May 2008
UK = £479 pw at April 2008
Australia is only about 20% higher than the UK at a 2.05 FX rate.Australia = $1,183.10 pw (+9% Super = $1,289) at May 2008
UK = £479 pw at April 2008
at an FX rate of 2.5, the countries were about the same.
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Re: Hooray - first home buyers grant to end (probably)!
Averages wages is a different matter entirely, as this can depend a lot on where the people live, as that is how average wages are worked out.
The best I have done so far was the following comparison:
at an FX rate of 2.5, the countries were about the same.
The best I have done so far was the following comparison:
May 2008 Average Weekly Earning Comparisons
Australia = $1,183.10 pw (+9% Super = $1,289) at May 2008
UK = £479 pw at April 2008
Australia is only about 20% higher than the UK at a 2.05 FX rate.Australia = $1,183.10 pw (+9% Super = $1,289) at May 2008
UK = £479 pw at April 2008
at an FX rate of 2.5, the countries were about the same.
Your comparisons are UK/Australia not London/Sydney by the way.