Help requested - Oz TV / video situation
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Help requested - Oz TV / video situation
We investigated the TV for australia problems before we left UK and were advised that we could use the UK televisions if we put them thru an australian VCR.
We have tried this - two VCR's and 3 televisions. No luck we can get a perfect picture of course but no sound.
Also we can play our UK tapes thru an australian VCR and an oz TV but using the oz VCR and the UK tv gives us the no sound problem again.
Can anyone put us on the correct track with this. We have to use a booster in the area we live and a kind neighbour has loaned us one which works on the TV she also loaned us but we cannot understand why we are unable to get everything working as was suggested in previous threads. Can ANYONE out there who has tried in Oz and it worked tel us what we should be doing????? Thanks (I hope) :scared:
We have tried this - two VCR's and 3 televisions. No luck we can get a perfect picture of course but no sound.
Also we can play our UK tapes thru an australian VCR and an oz TV but using the oz VCR and the UK tv gives us the no sound problem again.
Can anyone put us on the correct track with this. We have to use a booster in the area we live and a kind neighbour has loaned us one which works on the TV she also loaned us but we cannot understand why we are unable to get everything working as was suggested in previous threads. Can ANYONE out there who has tried in Oz and it worked tel us what we should be doing????? Thanks (I hope) :scared:
#2
Not of much help as I'll have to ask hubby but we bought a oz telly and linked up to UK video and got the same thing. He bought a twiddly bit from Tandy and it worked.
I'm sure someone else will know though.
Di
I'm sure someone else will know though.
Di
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Use Oz VCR with the video out and sound out cable, not the aerial cable. You can then play back any vids and use the Oz VCR as a tuner for the UK TV. This is all assuming both your TV and VCR have those outputs and inputs.
You will need to get the cables from Dick smiths. They are just standard hi-fi cables.
You will need to get the cables from Dick smiths. They are just standard hi-fi cables.
#5
Help requested - Oz TV/video situation
Just wondered if UK TV and UK Vid work together if only watching videos when in Oz. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but was curious. Thanks
#6
I have a US video tape (NTSC) that plays on my Oz VCR and TV if anyone's remotely interested. I was quite impressed.
#7
Re: Help requested - Oz TV/video situation
Originally posted by Pheobe
Just wondered if UK TV and UK Vid work together if only watching videos when in Oz. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but was curious. Thanks
Just wondered if UK TV and UK Vid work together if only watching videos when in Oz. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but was curious. Thanks
UK video tapes yes
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Re: Help requested - Oz TV/video situation
Originally posted by Pheobe
Just wondered if UK TV and UK Vid work together if only watching videos when in Oz. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but was curious. Thanks
Just wondered if UK TV and UK Vid work together if only watching videos when in Oz. I know this doesn't help answer your question, but was curious. Thanks
#9
Here's the nerdy explanation of why a UK tv won't work properly in AUS. Apologies on advance for being an electronics geek !
The reason that the VCR won't put sound into a UK tv set is because you are using an RF cable connection (i.e. a standard aeriel connection lead) which has video and audio signals mixed onto the single cable.
UK tv systems use the PAL method of transmission, the same as the AUS tv systems. They both however use a slightly different flavour of PAL, and the difference is in the audio sub-carrier. What this means is that a UK tv can receive PAL signals of the AUS type but won't be able to decode the sound properly, hence no sound.
The way around this is to get hold of any device that has an AUS PAL tv tuner in it and then take the seperate audio and video signals from that device and plug them into the UK tv, then both video and audio signals will be received fine by the tv. The easiest way to do this is to get an AUS VCR, feed an AUS tv signal into it via an RF cable (standard coaxial tv signal cable) and then wire up the AUS VCR audio and video outputs into the back of your UK tv (either by seperate compostie video and Left/Right audio phono leads or easier with a SCART cable).
Another way is to get a cable/SAT decoder and take the seperate audio/video signals that it produces and feed them into the back of your UK tv.
Just thought that someone might like to know the nerdy reasons why this tv problem appears
The reason that the VCR won't put sound into a UK tv set is because you are using an RF cable connection (i.e. a standard aeriel connection lead) which has video and audio signals mixed onto the single cable.
UK tv systems use the PAL method of transmission, the same as the AUS tv systems. They both however use a slightly different flavour of PAL, and the difference is in the audio sub-carrier. What this means is that a UK tv can receive PAL signals of the AUS type but won't be able to decode the sound properly, hence no sound.
The way around this is to get hold of any device that has an AUS PAL tv tuner in it and then take the seperate audio and video signals from that device and plug them into the UK tv, then both video and audio signals will be received fine by the tv. The easiest way to do this is to get an AUS VCR, feed an AUS tv signal into it via an RF cable (standard coaxial tv signal cable) and then wire up the AUS VCR audio and video outputs into the back of your UK tv (either by seperate compostie video and Left/Right audio phono leads or easier with a SCART cable).
Another way is to get a cable/SAT decoder and take the seperate audio/video signals that it produces and feed them into the back of your UK tv.
Just thought that someone might like to know the nerdy reasons why this tv problem appears
#10
Originally posted by EssexNobby
Here's the nerdy explanation of why a UK tv won't work properly in AUS. Apologies on advance for being an electronics geek !
The reason that the VCR won't put sound into a UK tv set is because you are using an RF cable connection (i.e. a standard aeriel connection lead) which has video and audio signals mixed onto the single cable.
UK tv systems use the PAL method of transmission, the same as the AUS tv systems. They both however use a slightly different flavour of PAL, and the difference is in the audio sub-carrier. What this means is that a UK tv can receive PAL signals of the AUS type but won't be able to decode the sound properly, hence no sound.
The way around this is to get hold of any device that has an AUS PAL tv tuner in it and then take the seperate audio and video signals from that device and plug them into the UK tv, then both video and audio signals will be received fine by the tv. The easiest way to do this is to get an AUS VCR, feed an AUS tv signal into it via an RF cable (standard coaxial tv signal cable) and then wire up the AUS VCR audio and video outputs into the back of your UK tv (either by seperate compostie video and Left/Right audio phono leads or easier with a SCART cable).
Another way is to get a cable/SAT decoder and take the seperate audio/video signals that it produces and feed them into the back of your UK tv.
Just thought that someone might like to know the nerdy reasons why this tv problem appears
Here's the nerdy explanation of why a UK tv won't work properly in AUS. Apologies on advance for being an electronics geek !
The reason that the VCR won't put sound into a UK tv set is because you are using an RF cable connection (i.e. a standard aeriel connection lead) which has video and audio signals mixed onto the single cable.
UK tv systems use the PAL method of transmission, the same as the AUS tv systems. They both however use a slightly different flavour of PAL, and the difference is in the audio sub-carrier. What this means is that a UK tv can receive PAL signals of the AUS type but won't be able to decode the sound properly, hence no sound.
The way around this is to get hold of any device that has an AUS PAL tv tuner in it and then take the seperate audio and video signals from that device and plug them into the UK tv, then both video and audio signals will be received fine by the tv. The easiest way to do this is to get an AUS VCR, feed an AUS tv signal into it via an RF cable (standard coaxial tv signal cable) and then wire up the AUS VCR audio and video outputs into the back of your UK tv (either by seperate compostie video and Left/Right audio phono leads or easier with a SCART cable).
Another way is to get a cable/SAT decoder and take the seperate audio/video signals that it produces and feed them into the back of your UK tv.
Just thought that someone might like to know the nerdy reasons why this tv problem appears
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EssexNobby
Fantastic explanation mate. Started reading that having read a few other on the same subject and still not having a clue.......I read yours, and now I understand!
You should write instructions manuals.....not that us blokes would read them though eh?!!
Marko
Fantastic explanation mate. Started reading that having read a few other on the same subject and still not having a clue.......I read yours, and now I understand!
You should write instructions manuals.....not that us blokes would read them though eh?!!
Marko
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Thanks for all your help folks Went to buy the 'twiddley bit' from Tandy (Smiths) and the bloke there was very helpful he asked sus if there was a 'thing' in the loft on the aerial wire (n ot a booster) but something that returns the signal back up the pole???? he thinks the previous owners took it with them (I would not be surprised they were W*****s!)
So he advised us to look and see - showed us a similar 'thing' and will order it for us (about $86) if there is not one and this will do all 3 tv's We also got the twiddley bit as the oz vcr does not have a skart plug on it and we needed a non skart to skart lead If we have luck will keep you all posted.
So he advised us to look and see - showed us a similar 'thing' and will order it for us (about $86) if there is not one and this will do all 3 tv's We also got the twiddley bit as the oz vcr does not have a skart plug on it and we needed a non skart to skart lead If we have luck will keep you all posted.
#13
Hi Colin,
Wow....DeJa Vu, or what!!
We've had this conversation before, haven't we? I'm sure we have!
Yes, we did......and every time I suggested spending the $80 to get the tv converted so people wouldn't have to mess about with extra leads, buying oz video recorders and going down to tandy's for 'twiddly bits'.
And what happens? People take the easy option and buy an aussie video recorder at who knows what price and find that they still have problems!
Get you TV converted, that way you don't need to use up the scart socket. That leaves the scart socket free for your dvd/playstation/whatever. You don't need to be changing leads over and taking trips to tandy's!
I dread to think what money people are wasting on bits and trips they don't need.
Don't bother EssexNobby, they've all been told before!
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
Steve
Wow....DeJa Vu, or what!!
We've had this conversation before, haven't we? I'm sure we have!
Yes, we did......and every time I suggested spending the $80 to get the tv converted so people wouldn't have to mess about with extra leads, buying oz video recorders and going down to tandy's for 'twiddly bits'.
And what happens? People take the easy option and buy an aussie video recorder at who knows what price and find that they still have problems!
Get you TV converted, that way you don't need to use up the scart socket. That leaves the scart socket free for your dvd/playstation/whatever. You don't need to be changing leads over and taking trips to tandy's!
I dread to think what money people are wasting on bits and trips they don't need.
Don't bother EssexNobby, they've all been told before!
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
Steve
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First put your TV on the AV station.
The lead is called an RCA lead.RED YELLOW WHITE{some black}.
Plug Yellow into video out on Video the red into audio out white/
black into other audio out.
Plug the other end of cable into Video in Audio in on back of TV.
If you need a Skart plug to connect to your tv go to Dick Smith or Tandy about $20 .
Put the lead from your video into the three holes on the back of the skart plug flick the switch if it has on to video in and plug into your tv.
Plug the ariel into the video and you can use the video to change tv channels.
All Aussie videos in the last 5 years play Pal and NTSC tapes.
Hope this helps.
The lead is called an RCA lead.RED YELLOW WHITE{some black}.
Plug Yellow into video out on Video the red into audio out white/
black into other audio out.
Plug the other end of cable into Video in Audio in on back of TV.
If you need a Skart plug to connect to your tv go to Dick Smith or Tandy about $20 .
Put the lead from your video into the three holes on the back of the skart plug flick the switch if it has on to video in and plug into your tv.
Plug the ariel into the video and you can use the video to change tv channels.
All Aussie videos in the last 5 years play Pal and NTSC tapes.
Hope this helps.
#15
Originally posted by SteveBannister
Hi Colin,
Wow....DeJa Vu, or what!!
We've had this conversation before, haven't we? I'm sure we have!
Yes, we did......and every time I suggested spending the $80 to get the tv converted so people wouldn't have to mess about with extra leads, buying oz video recorders and going down to tandy's for 'twiddly bits'.
And what happens? People take the easy option and buy an aussie video recorder at who knows what price and find that they still have problems!
Get you TV converted, that way you don't need to use up the scart socket. That leaves the scart socket free for your dvd/playstation/whatever. You don't need to be changing leads over and taking trips to tandy's!
I dread to think what money people are wasting on bits and trips they don't need.
Don't bother EssexNobby, they've all been told before!
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
Steve
Hi Colin,
Wow....DeJa Vu, or what!!
We've had this conversation before, haven't we? I'm sure we have!
Yes, we did......and every time I suggested spending the $80 to get the tv converted so people wouldn't have to mess about with extra leads, buying oz video recorders and going down to tandy's for 'twiddly bits'.
And what happens? People take the easy option and buy an aussie video recorder at who knows what price and find that they still have problems!
Get you TV converted, that way you don't need to use up the scart socket. That leaves the scart socket free for your dvd/playstation/whatever. You don't need to be changing leads over and taking trips to tandy's!
I dread to think what money people are wasting on bits and trips they don't need.
Don't bother EssexNobby, they've all been told before!
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...&highlight=pal
Steve
We paid $70 for a conversion that failed so had to buy an Aussie VCR as the only way to keep the UK TV going