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JAJ Jun 18th 2004 4:30 pm

The following Home Office page gives details on getting birth certificates for the UK and Republic of Ireland:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=157

Jeremy


Originally posted by GillettFamily
If your having problems getting a certified copy of your birth certificate then try ordering it online.

shol Jun 18th 2004 6:43 pm

Hi JAJ
My cousin is doing both(sponsor and assurer) He lives in Redcliffe,area code 4020.

JAJ Jun 18th 2004 6:55 pm

I'm surprised an area so close to Brisbane should be 'designated' but postcode 4020 certainly looks ok by DIMIA:
http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/ski...ated_areas.htm

You'll need to show proof of his residence there for at least 12 months prior to your application.

Jeremy


Originally posted by shol
Hi JAJ
My cousin is doing both(sponsor and assurer) He lives in Redcliffe,area code 4020.

JAJ Jun 18th 2004 7:05 pm

That is *not* a good idea.

For skilled sponsored, you must provide a sponsorship form (form 40) and an Assurance of Support form (form 28) with the application. If you do not, there is a high risk of refusal.

The Migration Regulations insist that (for general skilled sponsored applications) sponsorship and assurance documentation be provided at time of application.

There is talk that the requirement for an Assurance of Support at time of application will be discontinued from 1 July. I've not yet seen the relevant legislation.

Jeremy



Originally posted by GillettFamily
Just send in the application and get it lodged. You will be in on the current points system in operation at that time then. If you have any docs missing then they will ask for them...and you will then have some time in which to communicate with your so called cousin about the ways of the DIMIA and how important it is to you that you get that visa and of course what a vital and potentially fatal or successful role he plays in that drama.

And boy!! Is it a drama!! ...

"Infamy!..Infamy!...They've all got it 'in for me'!!"

shol Jun 18th 2004 7:20 pm

Thanks for that Jeremy.My agent in London is hinting at submitting the forms without my sponsors forms,but I was uncomfortable with that.Its like how can you apply for a sponsored visa without a sponsor.Doesnt make sense does it.

Springo Jun 18th 2004 8:18 pm


Originally posted by JAJ
The following Home Office page gives details on getting birth certificates for the UK and Republic of Ireland:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=157

Jeremy

Great news

Uncles Cert Birth Certificate Arrived from Ireland in the post this morning.

One less thing to worry about, now all I have to do is get my cousin to get a wiggle on.

Thanks for all your help

Regards

Julia

GillettFamily Jun 18th 2004 10:07 pm


Originally posted by JAJ
That is *not* a good idea

We were fortunate enough to be able to submit the sponsors & assurers form with our application. However after we received the letter requesting meds & PCCs our agents admin office said we will also NOW be required to submit our sponsors & assurers forms before the assurers bond could be lodge as they need to check his financial situation....

Well we cleared that up for us but the point is that said with the rest of the conversation indicated & showed to us that you can lodge the application WITHOUT those forms...and we have been told that you can do that and send in the rest of the documentation as you get it.

As your handle says...This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction!!!

....it's just what we have experienced! ...though 15 years of trying.

JAJ Jun 19th 2004 10:41 am

All I'm saying is that in my understanding an application for skilled sponsored lodged without sponsorship and assurance forms is destined straight for the refusal bin.

The Migration Regulations say as follows:
(extract only)

--------

139.21 Criteria to be satisfied at time of application
...
139.212 The applicant is sponsored by the sponsor.
...
139.214 An assurance of support in relation to the applicant has been given, and has been accepted by the Minister.

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Note the phrase *time of application*.
Rules are similar for subclass 138 (Skilled Australian Sponsored).

Jeremy



Originally posted by GillettFamily


As your handle says...This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction!!!


JAJ Jun 19th 2004 10:43 am

Re: Help please
 
It's unclear what exactly is meant by this.
However, DIMIA will not mind how long you take to apply - TRA assessments are valid indefinitely.

The warning of course is that as long as you haven't applied, you remain vulnerable to any rule or policy changes. And the later you apply for the visa (normally) the later you get it.

Jeremy


Originally posted by shol
Our agent says it doesnt look too good,that we're taking so long to send our visa app. in.
Thanks

Steve and Carol

GillettFamily Jun 19th 2004 10:57 am

Hey! That's fine! No agrument there JAJ! :D

But has anyone ever wondered why it therefore takes nearly 6-12 months before you hear of that decision?:confused:

Could 'At the time' not be the moment it is received but possibly any moment in time between then and up to 12months or more later when they eventually get around to looking at the application and maknig that decision or whether or not to put it in the bin??....so maybe in that frozen moment you could slip in the paperwork that was missing when you sent it off!

LOL....just a thought, nothing serious, just my cynical view of the system.

I agree for anyone in this situation it's oft best to get proper advice from an Agent before you act.

Cheers mate!:beer:
Dave


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