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We are moving to Perth from England. We are hopefully moving around January time. My husband has a job in Morley but doesnt mind travelling to work.

We have 2 children, an 8 year old and an 18 month old so would want decent child care and schools.

We were originally looking to move to Joondalup, but now considering other areas. Does anybody have any suggestions as to the best suburbs in northern Perth?

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a lot of expats live in clarkson and butler which are north have a look on the estate agents websites for houses :thumbsup:

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This attachment might help. Basically it lists the suburbs in bands determined by various guidelines such at what facilities are available there etc etc.

Its a very good reflection on the suburbs in Perth.

Without wishing to offend anyway if you like Little Britain you'll get on fine in Butler, Clarkson, Joondalup.

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I don't like "Little Britain". But I've been very happy living in Joondalup and now in Tapping (next suburb to the east).

Generalisations like these are ridiculous.

Gina

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Gina, don't bite mate. I am sick to the back teeth of people making comments such as that and its just easier to bite your tongue. The only person getting wound up is you (and me of course ;) ).

To the OP. Joondalup can mean different things to different people. The suburb of Joondalup has the area in the centre which is mainly flats and townhouses. Not somewhere I would live with my family. The suburb also had an area that is more what I would call family homes. Some parts are nicer than others but only in a kept nice way rather than a rough way. Has an OK primary school. You will also hear the term City of Joondalup which refers to the council area. Lots of different suburbs fall under the City of Joondalup.

Lots of suburbs around it are very nice but will depend on your budget as to where you want to live. Connolly, Currambine, Ocean Reef, Iluka, Kinross. Joondalup has reasonable facilities in terms of shopping, restaurants, cinema, swimming pool etc, is 25 mins on the train to Perth and half an hour driving off peak. 5 minutes drive to the beach.

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I have looked at Currambine, Ocean Reef, Edgewater and Heathridge too. The houses there do look nice.

Is it nicer towards the top end of northern perth than it is further down closer to the city?

Basically we are looking for a nice family area to bring up our children with nice schooling both primary and senior.

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I have friend in Ellenbrook and The Vines who work in Morley.
Have you looked at those locations????

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Morley is about a 20 - 25 minute drive from Ellenbrook. I live in The Vines so am biased, however Ellenbrook is developing at a rate quicker than expected. The only downside is that you do need a car (or two), public transport is dire, and not expected to get better anytime soon.

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Without wishing to offend anyway if you like Little Britain you'll get on fine in Butler, Clarkson, Joondalup.[/QUOTE]



Without offending anyone, this statement is a fact..no getting away from it!!! LOL:eek:

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I havent actually looked at those areas but definately will do. I am still trying to look at all the different possibilities as there are so many things to consider - house prices, good/bad area, schools (primary & senior), jobs etc.

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Without offending anyone, this statement is a fact..no getting away from it!!! LOL:eek:[/QUOTE]

I agree with you there.

I live in Tapping and nearly all our neighbours are Australian and there are still many more Australians in the northern suburbs than british. I personally don't care/have a problem with living in "little britain" and other than the accents still find it Australian. It is not as though there are pubs everywhere and chip shops e.t.c, the accents are the only similarities IMO :)

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Accept when its not a generalisation. Just pointing out that those suburbs are where you will find the most Brits in Perth - this is neither bad or good I couldn't care less.

Moving there may help people settle in easier. In my case I moved to Scarborough - which loads of people call a dump and I respect their opinion if though I don't share it.

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Use this link as well

http://www.domain.com.au/public/subu...term=joondalup

Gives you a few stats that might help out and allows you to report on all other suburbs as well.

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Have a look at Aveley new estate next to Ellenbrook.
About 25 mins if that to Morley.Great for famlies looking at 30 mins beach but right near whiteman park and all winerys.:)

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That is nonsense. Clarkson and Joondalup were originally suburbs where Homeswest housed many Australians that could not afford to buy, then the developers came in and show homes were built and both suburbs expanded very quickly, so now they are a mixture of both privately owned and Homeswest houses.

Both Kinross and Rockingham were known as 'Little Britain' and that was way before the tv series too.

Personally, if you can afford to, I would steer clear of Edgewater and Heathridge.

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Wembley Downs used to be nice (dont know of it still is - long time since I ventured into that part of Perth) but I suspect one f the more expensive burbs

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I do know it's a generalisation, but we didn't like the look of Heathridge very much when we were looking at houses to buy. We're currently in Clarkson but building in Butler. Both known as "little Britain" type areas, but our neighbours are a real mix of people. Yes, a lot of UK immigrants, but also Aussies and immigrants from other areas of the world.

These threads always stir up a lot of strong feelings. What one person loves about where they live others might hate. I know people who live in Morley and love it. I personally don't think I would enjoy living there. My husband lived in Scarborough when he first moved over here and while he and the kids loved the area I thought it was too busy. Nobody can really tell anyone what they will or won't like. The only way to know is to go see it for yourself. A couple of times. Go in the daytime, at night, look for shops, schools, access to main roads and public transport.

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True, also pay attention to the quantity of burnout marks on the roads and the amount of discarded/smashed stubbies on the verges. Also the amount of graffiti too.

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While generally I agree, it isn't always indicative of a dodgy suburb. We have seen a huge increase in graffiti in our suburb. I also babysat for a friend on Delgado Parade near you and the noise from hoons was the worst I have experienced. I would say we lived in reasonable suburbs too.

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Wembley Downs is still very nice, as is Floreat, Mt.Hawthorn and Lawley and I could go on and on, but not knowing what the OP can afford and what they are looking for, makes it difficult to give good advice.

I agree D. There are suburbs that I personally would steer very clear of and, I think just looking at what is for sale and how much the properties are gives a good indication.

Yep, Delgado is a hoons paradise, much like Fairway Circle. Even where we are we can hear them in the small hours. Also, quite abit of 'anti social' behaviour has been reported of late down at Sir James McCusker Park, the foreshore and the Currambine to Iluka underpass. Where there are open spaces, kids will gather.

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We seem to have the burnout marks on Fairway but I have never been disturbed by it and I am only just off Fairway. Delgado was bloody awful, I was so surprised.

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What they do apparently, is hoon up and down to Burns Beach, along Delgado then down Shenton. Once that Beach road is open all the way along, we think that'll be their new 'track'.

Anyone want to buy a $1.5 - $3mil house hoons inclusive?;)

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Yes, please. I figure it will give my son someone to play with when he gets a little older. Maybe find a boyfriend for my daughter. She's 14 now so it's just about time to get her married off.

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Again I say ... accept when its not nonsense. I'll retract the term "Little Britain" if you like but my point was that these suburbs have the highest concentration of British people - there is no getting away from that.

I'm not saying there is no Australian people, that is not my point. For example some of those suburbs have as little as 50% Australian born residents compared to other suburbs which are more like 80% Australian born.

When we came here we wanted to make sure we experienced life amongst people who know Australia the best i.e Australian born residents so by not living in the mentioned suburbs we improve our chances of doing this.

We didn't move to the other side of the planet to talk to our neighbour about Man Utd's performance last weekend.

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It's not my house, we wouldn't live along the new road if we were paid to.:D

I'd like to know where you get your percentages from, although I do agree that within the Joondalup and Wanneroo Councils there are a lot of Brit's, but I certainly wouldn't say anywhere near 50%. Stirling Council area has a very high % of Macedonians and Italians, so would you avoid that too? I honestly don't get why you had to post that last bit, what was your point? Scarborough is well known as the 'back packers' area, so full of Brit's also.

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That's why I said I would retract Little Britain. I was trying to point out that a high percentage are not Australian. The comment was added because (and should have been made clearer) that if OP is worried about the move there is the option in safety in numbers by moving to an area with more people you can identify with.

Figures are available from the link I posted on this thread - info is from last census I believe.

Yep Scarborough is known as a backpackers place - thats because it rocks:D

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Aye, you have the football shirt and AFC on your car number plate don't you?

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The highest northern suburb % is Mindarie with 26% according to the last census. A long way from your estimated 50%.

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It's actually because there are so many hostels there.:p

I meant the bit about discussing Man Utd.. I thought it was.....well, slightly silly.

Actually no, but I know someone who has.:lol: Hey D, do you realise which forum you just posted in? You'll be moving up to Mindarie next.:rofl:

That's more like it and from memory, it used to be Carine, then Kingsley and Woodvale.

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When stating the 50% did it not say Australian born? The other 50% could be made up of whatever, 26% your correct in saying is British.

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And places like Belmont in the 60's, Forrestfield in the 70's and 80's.

A lot of poms used to come out on the 10 pound passage and stay at hostels until they're accommodation was sorted. These hostels were villages of small nissan huts - sometimes people would stay in them for months on end. The families would all become close and would all move into a cheap state housing type area together. These days they all get on the BE and ask each other the best suburb to move to and all end up together.

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I really don't think that many people worry about the ethnic makeup of the
people in whatever suburb.
Location to work, good schools etc. are far more important.
At the end of the day, as long as my neighbours aren't burning my fence down or pissing on my front door, I really don't care what nationality they are :thumbup:

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Absolutely, totally agree.

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Actually, if they were doing either of those I'm not sure that their nationality would be the first thing on my mind...

If anyone's really interested in this, you can look up any suburb at http://www.domain.com.au/public/suburbprofile.aspx - the demographic information (including the percentage of Brits) is lower down the page.

Cheers
b

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he didn't say that 50% are Brits, he said only 50% are Australian. Check out the ABS statistics of the Census 2006 http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABS...rumb=L&topic=&, you will find that on average the percentage of Australians is around the 50% mark in those suburbs, Brits make up another 20-30% and the rest is from the rest of the world.

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Geordie some people r racist im from northern ireland and my son was at tafe he decided to wear his celtic top the next day this other guy also from n,Ireland came in with his rangers top on and started giving my son nasty looks . people like this r so uneducated and should leave the conflict in northern ireland so yes we still do have bitter/racist people

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Yep, bad enough when it comes from the locals (whoever they may be)
even worse when it's exported from the other side of the world!!

Funnily, the only footie top I own these days is a Rangers away one, not
because I have any affiliation with Rangers, but because that's what my
5-a-side team played in back in the UK.
Only wear it when I'm at the gym or out jogging, will have to see if attracts any abuse :)

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No i think u have to be from northern ireland to draw attention lol .The thing about it is my son never grew up in the troubles so he does`nt know any difference Thats the way we brought him up but obviously the parents of the other guy still wanna live in the past .If i see u wearing ur rangers top ill give u a nasty stare lmao (every bloke i c with a rangers top lmao)

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It seems to be an obsession particular to some British people to only regard people as "natives" if they were born in the country.

In the UK, that means only those who are born there (and are of course white) are British. And I see that you apply the same principle here in Australia.

By your reckoning an aquaintance of mine who came to Perth in her early 20s and has now lived here for over 40 years would still be British and you wouldn't want to live next to her.

Thankfully, few Australians subscribe to your philosophy. Since we arrived here last November, no-one has asked me where I'm from. Perthites - at least the ones I know - are just not bothered about that. They are more interested in whether you fit in.

Gina

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Ive been asked loads of times were im from am i a pom? (which i did`nt knw what it meanu until a few months ago) What i had a frien who was asked were she was from when she said northern ireland the asked her was she from the good side of the bad side she replied what part do u wnat me to be from lol.So there are people out there who do ask were u r from .