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Help on how to cope with doubts?
I'm having one of my more down days today, and was wondering how other people felt and coped with their doubts.
Basically, I've always wanted to go to OZ, after looking into house prices and jobs, we (me, hubby and 3 kids) realised that there were plenty of jobs and house prices were better than here and we were gonna go for it. Since then, I've found out that jobs are scarce (hubby's in IT, qualified as CCIE) and the jobs advertised are mostly fake, also that house prices near the city of Melbourne are rather expensive. I'm not particularly close to my family and haven't a huge social life to miss, but I am really happy here. I love the village that I live in and my house does us fine, I love our family holidays in the Med, ordering my clothes from Next and all other menial things that I take for granted. So, why do I want to go? I thought it would be a better life style, mainly because of the weather and being able to spend more time outdoors, but is that a good enough reason to move my whole family to the other side of the world, or shouldn't I be happy with what I've got? If house prices were better and there were more jobs, I'd go tomorrow. But, the fact is, they aren't and I can't cope with these doubts!!! Have other people felt like this? Advice please. Noodle.x |
we all get these days and would be lying if we said otherwise.
the only advice i can give you is... go for it or you will always wonder what might of been, you can always come back. :) |
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Originally posted by noodle I'm having one of my more down days today, and was wondering how other people felt and coped with their doubts. Basically, I've always wanted to go to OZ, after looking into house prices and jobs, we (me, hubby and 3 kids) realised that there were plenty of jobs and house prices were better than here and we were gonna go for it. Since then, I've found out that jobs are scarce (hubby's in IT, qualified as CCIE) and the jobs advertised are mostly fake, also that house prices near the city of Melbourne are rather expensive. I'm not particularly close to my family and haven't a huge social life to miss, but I am really happy here. I love the village that I live in and my house does us fine, I love our family holidays in the Med, ordering my clothes from Next and all other menial things that I take for granted. So, why do I want to go? I thought it would be a better life style, mainly because of the weather and being able to spend more time outdoors, but is that a good enough reason to move my whole family to the other side of the world, or shouldn't I be happy with what I've got? If house prices were better and there were more jobs, I'd go tomorrow. But, the fact is, they aren't and I can't cope with these doubts!!! Have other people felt like this? Advice please. Noodle.x |
Hi Noodle
I think we all have the `down` days, i have had a few. But was lifted by the responses my friends made on here. Have no great remedy but i think we all have the same doubts about jobs,houses etc. Have you looked at other areas or are you set on Melbourne? Over the last few weeks we have spoke more about the move than we have done for a while and have reached some decisions. At the moment i am reserching as much as i can on the important issues such as work and the kids education etc. Looking at the rise of property and looking closely at the areas we want to eventually settle in. There are no magic words to say except keep your chin up and i hope that it all works out for you in the end. footie chick |
In my humble opinion..the best way to deal with it is sit back, take a deep breath and ask yourself this... if we go and we dont like it, would we have the funds to come back?
If you do then i would go. Life is for living, and if we never take chances in life, we will stay put and vegetate into old age. Even if its not the place you want to spend the rest of your life, at least you will have exciting memories to look back on and say you gave it a go. |
Hi Noodle,
Know what you're going through. I woke up this morning in a blind panic, just thinking about all the things I'm going to need to buy when we get there, not to mention finding somewhere to live, schools etc. Have you been out to Australia to have a look before you go? I think thats really important. We were originally heading for Melbourne until we went out there. Although we loved the city itself, we didn't see anywhere we would like to live. We did realise that we wanted to be in Australia, however. Jim is also in IT. He's freelance, and, to be honest, there aren't that many jobs here either (Jobserve also has lots of fake job adverts). We're also lucky in that it looks like Jim will be able to keep his current job working from Australia. One of his team already lives in Perth. However, there are jobs out there if you have the right skill set. They're just hard to find. You seem to have a lot going for you here. Have you written out a list of the pros and cons for going? That may be helpful. Personally, I can't see anything that would keep me here. We moved away from a families a long time ago, and here in the South East, house prices have gone through the roof so we can't afford a better property. Its an enormous thing we're doing and, really you should be more worried if you weren't having doubts. Whatever you decide, you have to do whats best for you and yours. You're all that matters. Jane |
Life is for living, and if we never take chances in life, we will stay put and vegetate into old age. Even if its not the place you want to spend the rest of your life, at least you will have exciting memories to look back on and say you gave it a go. If you don't go, you will always wonder "what if...." |
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Thanks for the response.
Firstly, we chose Melbourne mainly because we believe the majority of jobs are in Sydney, then Melbourne, then Brisbane. Don't fancy Sydney, Brisbane's probably too hot and we have some friends who lived in Melbourne and loved it. I don't mind having the seasons Melbourne brings, but I do want a bit more sunshine than the North west of England brings! Secondly, no, we don't really have the finance to visit or to come back really. We own a 3 bed house worth £120k and if we came back, especially the way house prices are rising, we'd be lucky to get a 2 bed if we came back! It is something I'm prepared to risk, I know if it all goes pear shaped we will have done something a lot of people never get the chance to do and will have learnt a valuable lesson, but it's still soooo scarey. I suppose I'm worrying because we're playing a waiting game at the mo and I want to be getting on with things, like doing up the house etc, but there's no point if we move. Not knowing whether we're staying or going is rather annoying!! I'll be raring to go again tomorrow, I jus wonder sometimes whether I'm being ungrateful for what I have by wanting something better. Confused Noodle.x |
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Originally posted by noodle Thanks for the response. Secondly, no, we don't really have the finance to visit or to come back really. We own a 3 bed house worth £120k and if we came back, especially the way house prices are rising, we'd be lucky to get a 2 bed if we came back! It is something I'm prepared to risk, I know if it all goes pear shaped we will have done something a lot of people never get the chance to do and will have learnt a valuable lesson, but it's still soooo scarey. Confused Noodle.x Confused Larissa looking forward to Pompey meet to see other like minded folks! (The in-laws have been getting to me!) |
Hi,
like some of you others i have days when I wonder if we are doing the right thing but I try to remind myself of the reasons we decided to give it ago. My mind is full of what ifs (we cant get jobs etc) but I also know that I dont want to get to a point in my life when its too late and wonder what if we had gone? They do say you regret more the things you didnt do than those you do. Debbie (also looking forward to Pompey meetup!) |
I still have doubts about going back and I'm a Kiwi! I still fear the 'unknown' - getting a job, settling in, regretting leaving all the good things about the Uk behind.
But for me, the pull of the relatively pristine outdoors, the moutains, and the lack of people are the clinchers. The density of population in England is not for me. Scotland is more my style, but I don't thing I could handle the short days in winter. |
Just to pick up on a point that seems to worry lots of people on here.
Even if you have to come back with less equity, having tried the Aussie life and decided it's not for you, it isn't the end of the world. When I split up with my husband in 1992, I left with two children aged 7 and 5, some personal bits and pieces and no job or money - the business we owned (and lived above) folded soon afterwards and I got nothing as it was in negative equity. Admittedly I've had a lot of support from my mum especially in the first few years, but 11 years on I have a good job that I love (been promoted three times from my starting level), a house with about £65k equity and have completed a professional accountancy qualification and (almost) an MBA. So if you think you might end up having to backtrack slightly IF you decide to return to the UK, don't worry. If you've had the determination to make it this far you can cope with pretty much anything I reckon! Just a thought... Elaine:) |
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Originally posted by Larissa Sounds like me at the moment - although we don't have that much equity in the house. We've been thinking about renting but are really put off by the tax etc., especially if we decide to sell later on. It is scary - I worry that if we can't hold onto the house, we'll end up returning to a dump, if we have to. Well, it doesn't look like we need to make any rash decisions - we've got 9/10 months to wait for DIMIA anyway, but I am feeling less positive these days about Aus. I have always thought that it would be a good thing to enjoy the remainder of our time here, so I should be glad of that! Confused Larissa looking forward to Pompey meet to see other like minded folks! (The in-laws have been getting to me!) Stuiped me! I didn't mean to say we own the house, that's how much it's worth, but we've still got £65k to pay on it. We only bought it 2 1/2 years ago. So, really we'll have £55k to put down in Oz, which ain't alot. I was hoping to buy a nice 4 bed, maybe with a pool, but the average house price in some of the nicer areas are in the late $600k's. Bonkers. I've been advised to rent over there, but it's dead money, isn't it? Where are you going to Larissa? |
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Originally posted by noodle Stuiped me! I didn't mean to say we own the house, that's how much it's worth, but we've still got £65k to pay on it. We only bought it 2 1/2 years ago. So, really we'll have £55k to put down in Oz, which ain't alot. I was hoping to buy a nice 4 bed, maybe with a pool, but the average house price in some of the nicer areas are in the late $600k's. Bonkers. I've been advised to rent over there, but it's dead money, isn't it? Where are you going to Larissa? Hope things work out noodle, plus as Elaine pointed out, money isn't everything - circumstances can change pretty quick. I guess if we do end up coming back, the kids will both be older and I'll be able to get a job - at the moment our youngest is 11 months, so we're on one salary anyway. Larissa $600 K sounds alot - maybe they're the swankier burbs. |
£55k may not be a lot but is would be enough to buy a cheap home in a cheap area, at todays exchange rate that is about $133k.
why not buy a home when you arrive, live there untill you find jobs/area you want to live then get a mortgage for your new place and pay your mortgage using the rent from the first house. or you could always sell the first one and move on? this is something we have looked into but we have decided to do a self build. :) |
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Originally posted by Larissa Perth hopefully... but at the moment I'm reassessing everything! We've got about the same amount in equity, but I'm thinking that it could well get eaten up by the costs etc. I think that renting is much cheaper, where I've looked, so it wouldn't be that bad an idea, plus we'd want to check out areas and possibly go interstate if we can't find somewhere we want to settle. Hope things work out noodle, plus as Elaine pointed out, money isn't everything - circumstances can change pretty quick. I guess if we do end up coming back, the kids will both be older and I'll be able to get a job - at the moment our youngest is 11 months, so we're on one salary anyway. Larissa $600 K sounds alot - maybe they're the swankier burbs. I think we're going to have to leave it a while to see whether house prices do come down and to see if the job market picks up. I'm nearly 30, so I've got a few years ahead of me yet. Personally, I would love to live in a lovely house, somewhere near a beach, in the sunshne, about an hour away form the city, and Perth was where I wanted to go, but none of that is gonna happen. I though Oz were looking for highly skilled professionals, but I got that wrong too. I've just heard from wolfenswife, who's having a miserable time in Melb, manily because her husband can't get work. Money isn't everything, but no job means no money and no fun! Like I say, I'll make the most of what I have got, after all, it's not that bad. I think I'll paint all my ceilings blue and pretend I'm looking at blue skies instead of grey ones, turn the heating up to max and put my bikini on and pretend I'm in the sun!!! Thanks for the advise, love Noodle (who hates English weather). |
Hi there
Just wanted to say I've really enjoyed reading this thread. Got confirmation today that our migration agent has received all of our documentation (we've front loaded so nothing else to do except medical) so it's made it real that we've actually applied and it all feels very BIG AND SCARY! - can't wait to get to the pub tonight to have a stiff drink :) Whatever happens, I know that we will look back and be pleased that we've done what many people never have - taking a deep breath and going for it rather than just talking about it. Toni |
Good luck Toni,
Keep us posted on developments! Elaine:D |
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Noodle,
You have given me some wonderful advice lately over parents etc. My parents are totally unrecognisable as the loving parents i once knew, now they are full of sneer and doom and gloom over the situation. Well here's my advice, its probably not what you want to hear but i say "you go girl"!!! You are right to be cautious, its the sensible option but also a very safe one. I feel so nervous about the road ahead and having my parents always pulling the whole idea down does not help. But I've got something inside me that knows its the right choice. I don't know what it is, maybe sixth sense but its keeping my chin up and my nose to the grind stone ( a strange picture!) to get all this moving along. I'm reaching my 30's too, and even though I've done so much in my life, I know I've not finished yet. My huband and I are not well off but we have a passion for life. A get up and go that some people just don't understand. Five years ago we just had a car full of stuff and a promise of a job down south, we went for it and built ourselves up from there. We are more or less doing the same thing again, but moving to the other side of the world but we are determined to make it work when we get there. Its so easy to sit back and be comfortable with your lot. And thats fine for some people, thats their right to be. But what I'm trying to say that if you have that one little flicker of flame inside you, that passion for life, don't let it die out. Do something about it while you can, yeh its "the unknown", but also think of it as a "great adventure". At the end of the day it is your choice, we can only advise, but good luck whatever you decide. Tazzy |
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".........but I am really happy here. I love the village that I live in and my house does us fine, I love our family holidays in the Med,......"
Simple. don't do it. LMS |
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Originally posted by noodle Thanks for the response. Firstly, we chose Melbourne mainly because we believe the majority of jobs are in Sydney, then Melbourne, then Brisbane. Don't fancy Sydney, Brisbane's probably too hot and we have some friends who lived in Melbourne and loved it. I don't mind having the seasons Melbourne brings, but I do want a bit more sunshine than the North west of England brings! Secondly, no, we don't really have the finance to visit or to come back really. We own a 3 bed house worth £120k and if we came back, especially the way house prices are rising, we'd be lucky to get a 2 bed if we came back! It is something I'm prepared to risk, I know if it all goes pear shaped we will have done something a lot of people never get the chance to do and will have learnt a valuable lesson, but it's still soooo scarey. I suppose I'm worrying because we're playing a waiting game at the mo and I want to be getting on with things, like doing up the house etc, but there's no point if we move. Not knowing whether we're staying or going is rather annoying!! I'll be raring to go again tomorrow, I jus wonder sometimes whether I'm being ungrateful for what I have by wanting something better. Confused Noodle.x I have said often that you don't realise what you have in the UK until you leave it all behind to come here. It hasn't worked for us, and we are returning to the UK in 2004, we haven't got the available finances to just up and return and have to save for things like taking the animals back home!!! We have to sell our house here too and may end up in a smaller house than we originally had in the UK due to the prices, but hey, who cares as long as we are happy and I know that I will be. Don't wish we had come on a holiday first, its never the same when you visit. You have to live the life to know whats real. Good luck with anything you decide. :) |
Hi Noodle :)
I can identify with a lot of what you're going through - "It's not too bad here, will I be able to have the same standard of house if I come back?, will I be able to get a job?", the gradual realisation that I won't be able to buy a mansion with swimming pool for cash, etc. I think it's pretty normal when you're faced with such a big change. I've certainly questioned everything about my life here in the UK since actually getting my visa. As you know, things have changed for me since applying for my visa - loads more options here than I had twelve months ago. Went to Adelaide earlier this year to check it out and see if I like it, which I did, but I've decided to check out all the options here before moving anywhere! After all, now that I've got my visa validated I've potentially got another four and a half years to make my mind up if I really want to go! I don't feel so pressured to make any decisions and that in itself has made the whole thing seem more positive. Now I can do things on my terms and to my timescales. I know everyone will have a different opinion on this - and the bottom line is that you have to do whatever gives you peace of mind - regardless of what other people think and regardless of how illogical or impractical it seems. Would it be feasible for you to carry on with the application and save up enough to go for a long holiday, perhaps to validate the visa or after a year or two? If you get a PR visa then it's valid for five years so there's no real rush to make any irreversible decisions. OK, so it wouldn't be like living there but it'll at least give you an idea of what the place is like, and may help you decide one way or another. As I said, it helped for me. Good luck, whatever you decide, Steve :D |
Originally posted by stotty Hi Noodle :) I can identify with a lot of what you're going through - "It's not too bad here, will I be able to have the same standard of house if I come back?, will I be able to get a job?", the gradual realisation that I won't be able to buy a mansion with swimming pool for cash, etc. I think it's pretty normal when you're faced with such a big change. I've certainly questioned everything about my life here in the UK since actually getting my visa. As you know, things have changed for me since applying for my visa - loads more options here than I had twelve months ago. Went to Adelaide earlier this year to check it out and see if I like it, which I did, but I've decided to check out all the options here before moving anywhere! After all, now that I've got my visa validated I've potentially got another four and a half years to make my mind up if I really want to go! I don't feel so pressured to make any decisions and that in itself has made the whole thing seem more positive. Now I can do things on my terms and to my timescales. I know everyone will have a different opinion on this - and the bottom line is that you have to do whatever gives you peace of mind - regardless of what other people think and regardless of how illogical or impractical it seems. Would it be feasible for you to carry on with the application and save up enough to go for a long holiday, perhaps to validate the visa or after a year or two? If you get a PR visa then it's valid for five years so there's no real rush to make any irreversible decisions. OK, so it wouldn't be like living there but it'll at least give you an idea of what the place is like, and may help you decide one way or another. As I said, it helped for me. Good luck, whatever you decide, Steve :D Larissa |
Hiya Steve
Glad to hear you're feeling a bit more positive now the pressures off. Thanks for your reply and everyone else's. I know in my heart what I want to do, but it's the impracticalities of it all, lack of jobs being the main one. We'd have to secure a job before we go, which is easier said than done. I would love to go over and get a real feel for the place, but it's hard with 3 young boys as I've said before. That's not the problem really, I'm sure I could go and settle in most places, I've done it plently of times before, but that was always on my own, it's hard when you have others to think of. But than, like janeray says, you have to live the life to know what's real. It's so easy to except what you have and make the most of it, but have I got the guts to try something new, that's the question???? I'll kepp you updated Love Noodle |
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Originally posted by Tazzy Noodle, You have given me some wonderful advice lately over parents etc. My parents are totally unrecognisable as the loving parents i once knew, now they are full of sneer and doom and gloom over the situation. Well here's my advice, its probably not what you want to hear but i say "you go girl"!!! You are right to be cautious, its the sensible option but also a very safe one. I feel so nervous about the road ahead and having my parents always pulling the whole idea down does not help. But I've got something inside me that knows its the right choice. I don't know what it is, maybe sixth sense but its keeping my chin up and my nose to the grind stone ( a strange picture!) to get all this moving along. I'm reaching my 30's too, and even though I've done so much in my life, I know I've not finished yet. My huband and I are not well off but we have a passion for life. A get up and go that some people just don't understand. Five years ago we just had a car full of stuff and a promise of a job down south, we went for it and built ourselves up from there. We are more or less doing the same thing again, but moving to the other side of the world but we are determined to make it work when we get there. Its so easy to sit back and be comfortable with your lot. And thats fine for some people, thats their right to be. But what I'm trying to say that if you have that one little flicker of flame inside you, that passion for life, don't let it die out. Do something about it while you can, yeh its "the unknown", but also think of it as a "great adventure". At the end of the day it is your choice, we can only advise, but good luck whatever you decide. Tazzy Hiya Tazzy Nice to hear from you. I've had that something inside me too, for a long time and I doubt it will ever go away. I too see it as a great adventure in living in a differrent country, making new friends and getting used to everything and I really look forward to that, but at the same time, we do need that security of having a job. I'm not giving up though. Darren's sent his CV to millions of agencies and not heard from one, and he really is Mr Sensible and needs definate assurance of secure prospects. Like I say, I am really happy here, but there's something inside me that wants more. I think I'll get lots of wine at the weekend (Australian of course), and have many chats about the pro's and con's. Thanks for the advice anyway. Keep me informed of your progress and any change with the parents. Love Noodle. |
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Originally posted by noodle I'm having one of my more down days today, and was wondering how other people felt and coped with their doubts. Basically, I've always wanted to go to OZ, after looking into house prices and jobs, we (me, hubby and 3 kids) realised that there were plenty of jobs and house prices were better than here and we were gonna go for it. Since then, I've found out that jobs are scarce (hubby's in IT, qualified as CCIE) and the jobs advertised are mostly fake, also that house prices near the city of Melbourne are rather expensive. I'm not particularly close to my family and haven't a huge social life to miss, but I am really happy here. I love the village that I live in and my house does us fine, I love our family holidays in the Med, ordering my clothes from Next and all other menial things that I take for granted. So, why do I want to go? I thought it would be a better life style, mainly because of the weather and being able to spend more time outdoors, but is that a good enough reason to move my whole family to the other side of the world, or shouldn't I be happy with what I've got? If house prices were better and there were more jobs, I'd go tomorrow. But, the fact is, they aren't and I can't cope with these doubts!!! Have other people felt like this? Advice please. Noodle.x my hubby is a plasterer and we are hoping to go on his skills BUT if he cannot find plastering work when we get there he will do other jobs, van driving, bar work, whatever until he does get his prefered line of work. I hope that you go to Oz then at least you can look back in years to come and say that you had the passion and courage to give it a go, remember mate, life isn't a dress rehearsal, we get one shot. best of luck rach ;) |
Hi Noodle :)
It's hard for me to imagine from your pt of view, cos as you know, I'm going for very specific reasons! ;) What I would say though is that if you go and things aren't as expected, it will still be an adventure and an enriching experience which you'll never forget, and probably never regret. Imagine yourself in a rocking chair when you're 80. Which story would you rather tell your grandchildren? Whichever you choose (and only you can REALLY know in your heart), it sounds like you've got a happy life, which is the most important thing of all. It's good that you've no pressures or obligations, but I can imagine that you can't rest til you've made a decision and decided to stick with it no matter what. |
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You get that aussie wine down ya lass..........:beer:
Anyone got a good smiley for a red wine swilling sheila????:D Tazzy |
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I agree - everyone expects it to all be so easy. You don't getanything in life with a bit of hard work. Setting up in a new country is hard no matter how much money or many contacts you have there.
What happened to the old pioneering spirit that our forebears exhibited? They didn't get seatback videos on the aeroplane did they now?? :D Originally posted by nosuchluck what i can't understand is why so many people say 'what if i can't get an 'IT, Chef, Plumbing, Plastering.....job'! my hubby is a plasterer and we are hoping to go on his skills BUT if he cannot find plastering work when we get there he will do other jobs, van driving, bar work, whatever until he does get his prefered line of work. I hope that you go to Oz then at least you can look back in years to come and say that you had the passion and courage to give it a go, remember mate, life isn't a dress rehearsal, we get one shot. best of luck rach ;) |
Hiya Noodle,
Is there any way hubby can go on trip to Oz, purely to look for work? we were faced with a similar dilema but could not afford to all go to Oz for a holiday, Steve went out by himself and after two weeks came back with 2/3 good offers of work, have to admit he is not in IT but we all felt much more posative obviously. If he had not got the offers I think certainly from his point of view we would have decided not to go. Best of Luck Suz Perth Nov 10th |
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Originally posted by nosuchluck whatever you decide noodle, its not the end of the world or a death sentence, you can take the other option if things don't work out. what i can't understand is why so many people say 'what if i can't get an 'IT, Chef, Plumbing, Plastering.....job'! my hubby is a plasterer and we are hoping to go on his skills BUT if he cannot find plastering work when we get there he will do other jobs, van driving, bar work, whatever until he does get his prefered line of work. I hope that you go to Oz then at least you can look back in years to come and say that you had the passion and courage to give it a go, remember mate, life isn't a dress rehearsal, we get one shot. best of luck rach ;) Hi Rach I totally agree, it isn't a death sentence and we can always come back. But, in answer to your question, because of the line of work my husband is in, he needs to stay in IT and keep studying and taking exams to keep up to date with his skills, especially because of the competition out there. He is also qualified in technical illustration, but he wants to carry on with his career in the line of work he's in. Yeah, we are only here once and I don't want to be one of those people who have loads of regrets, I already have too many of them, although I accept they have been due to circumstance. Thanks anyway, Noodle |
Hi Suz
I suppose I could try and send him over, but to be honest there aren't even many jobs here as it's not a very common position that he's after. Thanks anyway, Noodle.x Originally posted by suz Hiya Noodle, Is there any way hubby can go on trip to Oz, purely to look for work? we were faced with a similar dilema but could not afford to all go to Oz for a holiday, Steve went out by himself and after two weeks came back with 2/3 good offers of work, have to admit he is not in IT but we all felt much more posative obviously. If he had not got the offers I think certainly from his point of view we would have decided not to go. Best of Luck Suz Perth Nov 10th |
Hi Noodle
We have just got our 457 visa and going through the same worries. We went to Aus in March and looked at Brisbane (too hot / humid) and Sydney (fantaastic city but too built up and expensive to live). Melbourne we really liked - lots of green, good cheap public transport, a really nice feel to the place but everyone says the weather is so variable it is nearly as bad as England (it certainly rained a lot when we were there) and the housing was very expensive if you wanted anything remotely decent. We are now going to Perth in November to have a look there as the climate is warm but not so hot and sticky as Brisbane and the housing is much cheaper than Melbourne or Sydney. (Adelaide is also cheaper for housing but I think climate is similar to Melbourne). My wife is very nervous whether we will be doing the right thing moving - we are both 56 so it is not like a 25 year old getting it wrong. I feel if we do not move we will always regret it. Reasons for moving: - I had a month betwen jobs last November and looked out of the window for a month with black clouds in the sky and not one sunny day - crime - both gun crime which is getting really bad here and also the petty crime - vandalism, litter. - in general people seem much more helpful and friendly in Aus. In Melbourne I was amazed to see a workman walk down the road to put some litter in a bin and virtually no graffiti or vandalism. Of course crime exists, but it does not seem to be at the mindless level which has been reached in England Remember. it is not a one way ticket if it really does not work out, but which is the bigger risk for you - not going and always thinking 'if only'. or taking the risk and if it all went pear-shaped coming back and rebuilding a life in the UK? Best of luck whichever your decision Art |
Originally posted by ArthurMoore Hi Noodle We have just got our 457 visa and going through the same worries. We went to Aus in March and looked at Brisbane (too hot / humid) and Sydney (fantaastic city but too built up and expensive to live). Melbourne we really liked - lots of green, good cheap public transport, a really nice feel to the place but everyone says the weather is so variable it is nearly as bad as England (it certainly rained a lot when we were there) and the housing was very expensive if you wanted anything remotely decent. We are now going to Perth in November to have a look there as the climate is warm but not so hot and sticky as Brisbane and the housing is much cheaper than Melbourne or Sydney. (Adelaide is also cheaper for housing but I think climate is similar to Melbourne). My wife is very nervous whether we will be doing the right thing moving - we are both 56 so it is not like a 25 year old getting it wrong. I feel if we do not move we will always regret it. Reasons for moving: - I had a month betwen jobs last November and looked out of the window for a month with black clouds in the sky and not one sunny day - crime - both gun crime which is getting really bad here and also the petty crime - vandalism, litter. - in general people seem much more helpful and friendly in Aus. In Melbourne I was amazed to see a workman walk down the road to put some litter in a bin and virtually no graffiti or vandalism. Of course crime exists, but it does not seem to be at the mindless level which has been reached in England Remember. it is not a one way ticket if it really does not work out, but which is the bigger risk for you - not going and always thinking 'if only'. or taking the risk and if it all went pear-shaped coming back and rebuilding a life in the UK? Best of luck whichever your decision Art Good luck to you and your wife, I've heard loads of nice stuff about Perth. Thanks for your advice. Noodle.x |
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