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jdraper Nov 18th 2008 6:53 pm

Hairdressing!!
 
Hi

I may be on a bit of a rant and rage but....

I did my hairdressing qualifications in the UK (NVQ 2, NVQ 3 Diploma and NVQ 3) starting in 2004. I worked in the same salon for 4 years until June 2008 when we came to Australia.

We are on a Student Visa (my husband is at college doing bakery/hospitality management) and I am a dependant on that visa. This is because I could not get TRA because I haven't got 6 years experience including my training.

My rant is that you can come over here and do a 2 year course (including 900 hours in a salon) and obtain TRA!!! How comes I, after 4 years, cannot even get TRA and am having to pay for student costs, costs for my son to go to school until he is 18 (even though he got 7 A*s in his GCSEs before we came out, which are being transferred to OP 1 or 2!!) and can only work for 20 hours a week so struggling etc etc etc?????

Also, I know for a fact that some of the students are barely competent when handed over their Certificates and lie on their TRA applications that they have done 900 hours!!!!

This really makes me angry!!! I worked my butt off to get my qualifications and still work hard and am (without being big-headed) a really good hairdresser!!!

EEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!:curse:

Anyway, just wanted to get that off my chest!!!

Jo

moneypenny20 Nov 18th 2008 7:32 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 
Sorry to say but you didn't get it because you couldn't fulfil their criteria. Someone doing it here to their rules will. Simple as. I could ask why you didn't work another two years in order to get TRA before moving over, then you could have worked full time, had the 'perks' of PR and your husband could have done his catering qualification. However, I'm not because a) it's none of my business; b) hindsight is a wonderful thing and c) presumably you were worried that hairdressing would come off the list and you'd still not be here.

Life's a bitch sometimes.

mandyp Nov 18th 2008 8:08 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 

Originally Posted by jdraper (Post 6988074)
Hi

I may be on a bit of a rant and rage but....

I did my hairdressing qualifications in the UK (NVQ 2, NVQ 3 Diploma and NVQ 3) starting in 2004. I worked in the same salon for 4 years until June 2008 when we came to Australia.

We are on a Student Visa (my husband is at college doing bakery/hospitality management) and I am a dependant on that visa. This is because I could not get TRA because I haven't got 6 years experience including my training.

My rant is that you can come over here and do a 2 year course (including 900 hours in a salon) and obtain TRA!!! How comes I, after 4 years, cannot even get TRA and am having to pay for student costs, costs for my son to go to school until he is 18 (even though he got 7 A*s in his GCSEs before we came out, which are being transferred to OP 1 or 2!!) and can only work for 20 hours a week so struggling etc etc etc?????

Also, I know for a fact that some of the students are barely competent when handed over their Certificates and lie on their TRA applications that they have done 900 hours!!!!

This really makes me angry!!! I worked my butt off to get my qualifications and still work hard and am (without being big-headed) a really good hairdresser!!!

EEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!:curse:

Anyway, just wanted to get that off my chest!!!

Jo

Why you ranting now. . you knew this before you came out?

Claire W Nov 18th 2008 8:43 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 
It's good to have a good old rant to get something of your chest sometimes.....you go for it girl :D

Can you get work there without your tra to build up your case to get it ?

It's a bit like in the 80's in the U.K when you could do a 6 week course in hairdressing and then go mobile as a trained hairdresser :eek: We must be thick needing 2 years full time and then qualify only as an improver ;)
Best of luck
Claire

jdraper Nov 18th 2008 10:19 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6988128)
Sorry to say but you didn't get it because you couldn't fulfil their criteria. Someone doing it here to their rules will. Simple as. I could ask why you didn't work another two years in order to get TRA before moving over, then you could have worked full time, had the 'perks' of PR and your husband could have done his catering qualification. However, I'm not because a) it's none of my business; b) hindsight is a wonderful thing and c) presumably you were worried that hairdressing would come off the list and you'd still not be here.

Hi Pen. We came out now as otherwise our son would be over 18 and wouldn't have been able to come out without his own visa. That's the main reason - plus we wanted to come now.

Life's a bitch sometimes.


Originally Posted by mandyp (Post 6988249)
Why you ranting now. . you knew this before you came out?

I knew some of this before I came out - what I didn't know was that some students don't finish their courses or aren't competent when finished (and still receive their Certs) and some even lie on their TRA application forms and still get granted PR!!!! I think that's why the rant now instead of earlier!! Just gets to you sometimes!!


Originally Posted by Claire W (Post 6988347)
It's good to have a good old rant to get something of your chest sometimes.....you go for it girl :D

Can you get work there without your tra to build up your case to get it ?

It's a bit like in the 80's in the U.K when you could do a 6 week course in hairdressing and then go mobile as a trained hairdresser :eek: We must be thick needing 2 years full time and then qualify only as an improver ;)
Best of luck
Claire

Hi Claire. Thanks for that. I am working 20 hours at a salon and so building up for TRA. Also, when the rules change (which they should have done on 1/9/08) I should be eligible with 4 years experience.

Feel better now!!

jdraper Nov 18th 2008 10:22 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6988128)
Sorry to say but you didn't get it because you couldn't fulfil their criteria. Someone doing it here to their rules will. Simple as. I could ask why you didn't work another two years in order to get TRA before moving over, then you could have worked full time, had the 'perks' of PR and your husband could have done his catering qualification. However, I'm not because a) it's none of my business; b) hindsight is a wonderful thing and c) presumably you were worried that hairdressing would come off the list and you'd still not be here.

Life's a bitch sometimes.


Hi Pen.

We didn't wait until I had done my 6 years as our son would be over 18 and would then need his own visa (or couldn't have come with us)!! Plus we wanted to come now so sold our house and financed it this way. I don't begrudge paying for the course etc for Paul and school for Andrew but, as I said, I'm just ranting because of the system and some people who just don't care how they get into the country and also don't care about the hairdressing profession getting a bad name!!

moneypenny20 Nov 18th 2008 10:55 pm

Re: Hairdressing!!
 

Originally Posted by jdraper (Post 6988642)
Hi Pen.

We didn't wait until I had done my 6 years as our son would be over 18 and would then need his own visa (or couldn't have come with us)!! Plus we wanted to come now so sold our house and financed it this way. I don't begrudge paying for the course etc for Paul and school for Andrew but, as I said, I'm just ranting because of the system and some people who just don't care how they get into the country and also don't care about the hairdressing profession getting a bad name!!

A rant is good for the soul :D

mandyp Nov 19th 2008 7:32 am

Re: Hairdressing!!
 
My point is you are in a better position than many of us over here on a student visa. . .you can use your hairdressing to still go for PR where as most of us are at the full mercy of any changes.

Agree that there is nothing wrong with a good rant but at least you are over here and have choices, many cant get over or are struggling to get here. . .your life in Oz has begun. . .

Good luck
Mandy


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