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Old Jul 16th 2004 | 2:39 am
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My comments about it getting cold sometimes and the fact I dislike the Beer has sparked some debate.
Let's see what happens with this observation.

Please remember I am not comparing The UK and Australia. I am making observations about my trip about things which we have discussed on here before.

There is a lot of drug Taking in Australia.

I had meetings with a number of peole in the mental health field over the past few weeks.
Drugs are a major problem. They take up a lot of resources in healthcare. There is widespread drug taking in schools.

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

While we were there there was widespread debate about school expulsions for drug offences.
There is a lot of discussion about drug misuse in the newspapers.
The use of cocaine etc. among young professionls is similar to here.

In Adelaide the growing of Marijuana is tplerated although there are restrictions on the amount you can grow for personal use.

This is an Observation,NOT an attack on all things Australian.
It is worth some realistic discussion though.

Head down

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Old Jul 16th 2004 | 2:51 am
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Default Re: The Grass IS greener (and cheaper)

Originally posted by Grayling
OK
My comments about it getting cold sometimes and the fact I dislike the Beer has sparked some debate.
Let's see what happens with this observation.

Please remember I am not comparing The UK and Australia. I am making observations about my trip about things which we have discussed on here before.

There is a lot of drug Taking in Australia.

I had meetings with a number of peole in the mental health field over the past few weeks.
Drugs are a major problem. They take up a lot of resources in healthcare. There is widespread drug taking in schools.

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

While we were there there was widespread debate about school expulsions for drug offences.
There is a lot of discussion about drug misuse in the newspapers.
The use of cocaine etc. among young professionls is similar to here.

In Adelaide the growing of Marijuana is tplerated although there are restrictions on the amount you can grow for personal use.

This is an Observation,NOT an attack on all things Australian.
It is worth some realistic discussion though.

Head down

G
Hi G
I know that drugs are found in alot of places but are some worse in Australia than others? My family and I are hoping to go to Melbourne hopefully in September and with two sons aged 12 and 15, it is a concern (as it is here in the UK)
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 2:57 am
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Hi G
I know that drugs are found in alot of places but are some worse in Australia than others? My family and I are hoping to go to Melbourne hopefully in September and with two sons aged 12 and 15, it is a concern (as it is here in the UK)
Don't know if it is any worse in some places than others. Probably the same as here.
Locals should be able to advise you better.

I am not trying to scare anyone. This subject has cropped up lots of times so I tried to find out for myself.
Some people think it just does not happen.They are wrong.

Best wishes

G
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 2:58 am
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I don't know about hard drugs, but grass is more acceptable over here. I had a friend who got a very acrimonious divorce, down in Hobart, and I remember him saying "She got custody of the dope tree...." and he was serious too. There was a more relaxed attitude to smoking it, certainly down there where life is more laid back anyway.
He did also comment though - he was an expat too - that many kids turned to dope because they felt there was nothing else for them. The insular life of many of their parents meant that they couldn't comprehend anything outside the circle they grew up in. Mention "going overseas" or in some cases even venturing to the mainland, and they would take on a look of sheer terror.
very sad.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 2:59 am
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Originally posted by Grayling
OK
My comments about it getting cold sometimes and the fact I dislike the Beer has sparked some debate.
Let's see what happens with this observation.

Please remember I am not comparing The UK and Australia. I am making observations about my trip about things which we have discussed on here before.

There is a lot of drug Taking in Australia.

I had meetings with a number of peole in the mental health field over the past few weeks.
Drugs are a major problem. They take up a lot of resources in healthcare. There is widespread drug taking in schools.

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

While we were there there was widespread debate about school expulsions for drug offences.
There is a lot of discussion about drug misuse in the newspapers.
The use of cocaine etc. among young professionls is similar to here.

In Adelaide the growing of Marijuana is tplerated although there are restrictions on the amount you can grow for personal use.

This is an Observation,NOT an attack on all things Australian.
It is worth some realistic discussion though.

Head down

G
Sounds the same as the UK to me
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 3:01 am
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Originally posted by NedKelly63
Sounds the same as the UK to me
I agree

That is my point.

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Old Jul 16th 2004 | 3:03 am
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Originally posted by Grayling
I agree

That is my point.

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So, what discussion do you want about this?
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 3:06 am
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Originally posted by Grayling
OK
My comments about it getting cold sometimes and the fact I dislike the Beer has sparked some debate.
Let's see what happens with this observation.

Please remember I am not comparing The UK and Australia. I am making observations about my trip about things which we have discussed on here before.

There is a lot of drug Taking in Australia.

I had meetings with a number of peole in the mental health field over the past few weeks.
Drugs are a major problem. They take up a lot of resources in healthcare. There is widespread drug taking in schools.

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

While we were there there was widespread debate about school expulsions for drug offences.
There is a lot of discussion about drug misuse in the newspapers.
The use of cocaine etc. among young professionls is similar to here.

In Adelaide the growing of Marijuana is tplerated although there are restrictions on the amount you can grow for personal use.

This is an Observation,NOT an attack on all things Australian.
It is worth some realistic discussion though.

Head down

G
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Gosh that is scary. Then again I am out of touch with the UK so I have no idea what it is like there.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004 | 3:06 am
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They run a bit in the daily paper here in Melbourne that gives the number of deaths year to date in Road accidents & drugs.
Road accidents are the big problem but of course in a big city drugs are a hazzard to.
We had to pull our daughter ( 16 year old ) out of school because there was a pretty big drug culture & coming from a small Scottish town she was unaware of most of it but sensible enough to refuse it ^ tell us.
The unfortunate thing was the teachers didn't want involved, didn't know how to handle it so they would clamp down on wromg size earings, wrong coloured hair etc & walk past people in the playground openly dealing.
Funny thing is this was one of the "posher" schools around, we took our daughter out of there & into a lower school where she was happy but unfortunetly the standard of teaching was much lower to.

Shes now 21 & after going through the usual checkout jobs etc she did a traineeship with a bank & is now on a better wage than me, go figure.
 
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Originally posted by NedKelly63
So, what discussion do you want about this?
People asked me to give my views about my visit so I am doing.

There have also been lots of statements by people on this forum in the past that the use of drugs in The UK is one of the reasons they are emigrating.
They don't want their kids exposed to Drugs.

Well they may be in for a shock.

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Default Re: The Grass IS greener (and cheaper)

Originally posted by Grayling
OK
My comments about it getting cold sometimes and the fact I dislike the Beer has sparked some debate.
Let's see what happens with this observation.

Please remember I am not comparing The UK and Australia. I am making observations about my trip about things which we have discussed on here before.

There is a lot of drug Taking in Australia.

I had meetings with a number of peole in the mental health field over the past few weeks.
Drugs are a major problem. They take up a lot of resources in healthcare. There is widespread drug taking in schools.

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

While we were there there was widespread debate about school expulsions for drug offences.
There is a lot of discussion about drug misuse in the newspapers.
The use of cocaine etc. among young professionls is similar to here.

In Adelaide the growing of Marijuana is tplerated although there are restrictions on the amount you can grow for personal use.

This is an Observation,NOT an attack on all things Australian.
It is worth some realistic discussion though.

Head down

G
No need to have yr head down Grayling - it is a worrying issue for parents, I'm sure, and they need to be aware that it is just as bad in Oz as it is in the UK.

Almost all public bathrooms here in Cambridge UK seem to have sharps disposal units - that doesn't stop the users from chucking them in the gutters, hedges, parking lots, kids' playgrounds etc. My biggest complaint about drug addicts is that they are obscenely untidy.....

Anya.
 
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Originally posted by Grayling
People asked me to give my views about my visit so I am doing.

There have also been lots of statements by people on this forum in the past that the use of drugs in The UK is one of the reasons they are emigrating.
They don't want their kids exposed to Drugs.

Well they may be in for a shock.

G
OK - now I understand where you are comming from. Observe away....
 
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Originally posted by Grayling
People asked me to give my views about my visit so I am doing.

There have also been lots of statements by people on this forum in the past that the use of drugs in The UK is one of the reasons they are emigrating.
They don't want their kids exposed to Drugs.

Well they may be in for a shock.

G
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I am interested in hearing your views, even though I might not like them But I respect your views at the same time.
 
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I am interested in hearing your views, even though I might not like them But I respect your views at the same time.
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Old Jul 16th 2004 | 3:31 am
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Originally posted by Grayling

There are needle boxes in public toilets in even the smallest towns and also in other public places.

G

One thing I noticed was the needle boxes in the toilets in Sydney Airport after going through passport control. Now what's all that about ??!!
 


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