The Glorious Twelfth
Jul 12th 2005 | 12:37 am
#31
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
Ha ha ha 
. The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK.
You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf
, and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,
JTL
. The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK. You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf
, and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,JTL
Or certain pubs in Sydney wearing a Celtic shirt and live to tell the tale
Jul 12th 2005 | 1:01 am
#32
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From: South East Suburbs of Melbourne
Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
Ha ha ha . The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK.
You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf , and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,
JTL
. The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK. You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf
, and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,JTL
Ive never been asked what school I went to or what foot I kick with etc since coming to Victoria.
Never had my car spat on because it was green ( and I'm a proddy ).
I agree that theres no place here for the small minded bigots.
Jul 12th 2005 | 12:48 pm
#33
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From: Gold Coast, Australia
Re: The Glorious Twelfth
I totally agree, I came to Australia from the West of Scotland to get away from that crap, didn't want my kids being brought up in it. The whole time we have been here never once has religion been brought up here, no one cares, it's brilliant, apart from when we meet the Scottish and right on cue before they even ask your name the first question from their mouth is "what team do you support" so they can work out what religion you are!!! pathetic.
Originally Posted by Bordy
I can't agree. Having lived in the West of Scotland for many years & spending a lot of time in NI its not in your face as it was back in UK.
Ive never been asked what school I went to or what foot I kick with etc since coming to Victoria.
Never had my car spat on because it was green ( and I'm a proddy ).
I agree that theres no place here for the small minded bigots.
Ive never been asked what school I went to or what foot I kick with etc since coming to Victoria.
Never had my car spat on because it was green ( and I'm a proddy ).
I agree that theres no place here for the small minded bigots.
Jul 12th 2005 | 3:20 pm
#34
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by lionheart
It's like a cross between July 4th and Guy Fawkes night for protestants only.
It's a large Protestant celebration in N. Ireland. The protestant king William of Orange( Toon may have heard of him, he was Dutch) defeated the catholic king James at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690.
In protestant areas they collect firewood, old sofas, pallets etc. etc for weeks ( they were already collecting when I was in Belfast at the end of May!!) and have a massive bonfire and piss-up on the 11th night( July 11th).
On the 12th the protestant marching bands have parades playing pipes whistles, drums etc. to traditional music which mostly celebrates the Protestants victory, superiority etc. much to the chagrin of their Catholic neighbors. Historically, there has been trouble between the two sides in the build up to celebrations for obvious reasons.
It's a large Protestant celebration in N. Ireland. The protestant king William of Orange( Toon may have heard of him, he was Dutch) defeated the catholic king James at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690.
In protestant areas they collect firewood, old sofas, pallets etc. etc for weeks ( they were already collecting when I was in Belfast at the end of May!!) and have a massive bonfire and piss-up on the 11th night( July 11th).
On the 12th the protestant marching bands have parades playing pipes whistles, drums etc. to traditional music which mostly celebrates the Protestants victory, superiority etc. much to the chagrin of their Catholic neighbors. Historically, there has been trouble between the two sides in the build up to celebrations for obvious reasons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Boyne
Jeremy
Jul 12th 2005 | 3:22 pm
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by bridiej
Do you get a public holiday in Ireland for it?
Ireland - no.
Jeremy
Jul 12th 2005 | 3:27 pm
#36
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
Ha ha ha . The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK.
You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf , and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,
JTL
. The sectarianism in Australia is as deep, if not deeper, than in the UK. You should try reading some Victoria state history, start with Ned Kelly(poor catholic boy terrorised by protestant authorities). Or alternatively, go into one of the Irish clubs in Melbourne wearing a Rangers scarf
, and explain to them that sectarianism doesn't exist,JTL
There may be sectarianism in Australia (like anywhere) if you go looking hard for it, but it's not something the average person will come across day to day. Same goes for most of the UK (parts of Scotland and Northern Ireland excepted).
Historically the "Irish Catholic" vote in Australia tended to support the ALP (Labor) but that's much less defined now than it was in the past. If there are differences in the voting pattern of Australian Catholics versus Australian Protestants they're a lot less than they used to be.
Jeremy
Jul 12th 2005 | 4:07 pm
#37
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by JAJ
"If King James of England had won the day, the King of Spain would then hold the balance of power in Europe, leaving him free to invade Italy, & usurp the Papacy"
I meant of course, The King of France.
Jul 12th 2005 | 4:47 pm
#38
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Re: The Glorious Twelfth
Originally Posted by JAJ
Tell it down the Falls Road and you get the same results for telling it with an English accent.......
