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Old Sep 2nd 2003, 10:41 pm
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Originally posted by Wilf
It is a shame that you do not post more often. Many here need to hear stories like yours I think because you certainly describe the real place as opposed to the Oz of dreams represented by a lot of people here who have yet to even visit. I have tried to point out the short term contract, part time, casualised jobs market here many times but it does not seem to register - perhaps people are not bothered whether they can find work but it was always important to me before I retired and so cannot see their point of view.

All the best and hope things are better for you now, Wilf

Wilf,

Thanks for your encouragement, maybe I should add some more eh?

Well, my best mate in Brizzy was from Scotland and the only way he could make ends meet was by doing-up dodgy, knackered old cars, re-painting them and then selling em on for a few Dollars cash-in-hand! (Don't tell the Taxman type of arrangement).

This guy has a Law Degree and was a fully qualified Commercial Pilot!

Whilst I was there I had a bit of free time so I tried to find a part-time job and so I tried Woolies (stacking shelves) even the local petrol station (night shift) ..........no chance of a job......even a crap one like these. They just wouldn't even consider me!

So I tried my luck at the Casino near Queen's Street Mall where they might have vacancies in the Security Department.

Now I am a former Senior Inspector in the Royal Hong Kong Police, with a BSc (Hons) in Policing & Police Studies & I can speak Cantonese..........should be OK for a security officer in a casino eh? No such luck!

So I duno how people can afford to buy these wonderful houses in the suburbs with pools etc, or how they can afford a new Ford Falcon and a flat screen TV, (massive credit problems maybe?), but from my experience Brisbane was a total economic nightmare.

Like I said before, nice place but I think I'll stay in Hong Kong until I can afford to retire there!

Cheers
(I hope I didn't offend anyone)
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Originally posted by southerner
I'm sure that PB had a bigger impact than even he would think.

I have heard privately from people who have decided not to move to Australia after looking into a few things raised by PB, Wilf, Dotty etc. Thats great - and what the site is for, to provide info and opinions for people to factor into their decision making.

And if people move to a new country with eyes wide open, and with maybe a plan B in mind, then I think that is a great outcome.

And where are these people's posts? I don't honestly know, but I think possibly a lot of people who are uncertain or genuinely undecided just sit in the background taking it all in, and only come out of the closet on the odd occasion, or never.

Typically it is the people with the strongest views (either positive or negative) who post the most. That makes the forum pretty interesting, but does not give a feel for what the middle ground make of it all.

I still feel there are a few people who get too personal in the way they put their message across, and I find fault here more with the rose tinted brigade than with the negative lot. But hey, its a democracy, and I can't tell other people how to behave.

Hey, maybe some of you silent and undecided people are reading this. What do you think of the info you get? Do you want more of the glossy stuff you can get off the tourist brochures, or more of the warnings and potential downsides?

Cheers...Southerner


ps I am personally off to NZ and am feeling very positive about this decision. Would welcome many more negative posts on NZ (have been some good ones by Wilf - thanks for trying, I know you don't get much appreciation from the NZ readers). I will read them seriously, filter out what is good info and what is not, and factor them in to either validate or invalidate my decision.

pps And I have a plan B too, which will be a move back to the best big country in the world (the UK).
Hi Southerner

I am another person with a plan B (and plan C). If we do not settle into life in Australia, then my husband and I will consider New Zealand (plan B). If New Zealand does not work then we plan to come back to the UK (plan C). By this time we will have travelled a fair jot, and experienced more than a lot of people who live in the UK their whole lives. I don't think that can be a bad thing.

I have been very grateful for all the negative posts on this forum, as well as the positive ones. I really feel that I am going into this with my eyes as wide open as they can be (given that I have not yet been to Oz).

Fingersr coseed plan A will work, as I really don't fancy all the work involved in moving countries again.

Good luck to everyone

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Old Sep 2nd 2003, 11:17 pm
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If I was an non-visiting expat I would now be worried - very worried - about Aussie's opportunities from reading this forum, yet when I was there I had nothing BUT opportunities. However my gf and I plan to go over there and make opportunities in fields where there are room for growth. I can see where people are coming from though.

"So I duno how people can afford to buy these wonderful houses in the suburbs with pools etc, or how they can afford a new Ford Falcon and a flat screen TV, (massive credit problems maybe?), but from my experience Brisbane was a total economic nightmare."

Well...as to the above, I don't how people can afford all the same stuff in the UK where there are at least no compensations like "s, s & b" etc if you haven't got them..

I've said it before - I would rather be low income in Aussie than low income in the UK. QED. All I need is a roof over my head, friends, a schooner of beer, my health etc...NRL on the TV....the love of a good woman..etc

I don't need to be a CEO and spend the rest of my life competing.

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Originally posted by paddythepilot
Wilf,

Thanks for your encouragement, maybe I should add some more eh?

Well, my best mate in Brizzy was from Scotland and the only way he could make ends meet was by doing-up dodgy, knackered old cars, re-painting them and then selling em on for a few Dollars cash-in-hand! (Don't tell the Taxman type of arrangement).

This guy has a Law Degree and was a fully qualified Commercial Pilot!

Whilst I was there I had a bit of free time so I tried to find a part-time job and so I tried Woolies (stacking shelves) even the local petrol station (night shift) ..........no chance of a job......even a crap one like these. They just wouldn't even consider me!

So I tried my luck at the Casino near Queen's Street Mall where they might have vacancies in the Security Department.

Now I am a former Senior Inspector in the Royal Hong Kong Police, with a BSc (Hons) in Policing & Police Studies & I can speak Cantonese..........should be OK for a security officer in a casino eh? No such luck!

So I duno how people can afford to buy these wonderful houses in the suburbs with pools etc, or how they can afford a new Ford Falcon and a flat screen TV, (massive credit problems maybe?), but from my experience Brisbane was a total economic nightmare.

Like I said before, nice place but I think I'll stay in Hong Kong until I can afford to retire there!

Cheers
(I hope I didn't offend anyone)
Sure you would have lasted more than 2 days in any of those jobs? You appear too qualified and there are plenty of Aussies who will stay longer on the job for employers to choose from. There are too many city based commercial pilots in Aus and little demand for them in Brisbane. Seems you have changed direction several times so you would have been better advised to make your own business opportunities, something better than dodge'em cars.
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Originally posted by Megalania
There are too many city based commercial pilots in Aus and little demand for them in Brisbane.
Too many anywhere, especially following the WTC crashes.

I used to work at a local airport, and am friends with many an unemployed pilot, some who have now had to retrain into different fields.
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Originally posted by PeteY
Too many anywhere, especially following the WTC crashes.

I used to work at a local airport, and am friends with many an unemployed pilot, some who have now had to retrain into different fields.
Naming the fields they chose might help someone.
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Originally posted by paddythepilot
Wilf,

Thanks for your encouragement, maybe I should add some more eh?

Well, my best mate in Brizzy was from Scotland and the only way he could make ends meet was by doing-up dodgy, knackered old cars, re-painting them and then selling em on for a few Dollars cash-in-hand! (Don't tell the Taxman type of arrangement).

This guy has a Law Degree and was a fully qualified Commercial Pilot!

Whilst I was there I had a bit of free time so I tried to find a part-time job and so I tried Woolies (stacking shelves) even the local petrol station (night shift) ..........no chance of a job......even a crap one like these. They just wouldn't even consider me!

So I tried my luck at the Casino near Queen's Street Mall where they might have vacancies in the Security Department.

Now I am a former Senior Inspector in the Royal Hong Kong Police, with a BSc (Hons) in Policing & Police Studies & I can speak Cantonese..........should be OK for a security officer in a casino eh? No such luck!

So I duno how people can afford to buy these wonderful houses in the suburbs with pools etc, or how they can afford a new Ford Falcon and a flat screen TV, (massive credit problems maybe?), but from my experience Brisbane was a total economic nightmare.

Like I said before, nice place but I think I'll stay in Hong Kong until I can afford to retire there!

Cheers
(I hope I didn't offend anyone)

Thanks a lot for the reply and expanding on your experiences. I have seen many well qualified people struggle in the same way over the years (even Sydney where one would expect things to be better). With your background, I too am left wondering what on earth more they wanted but perhaps an Australian Birth Certificate is more useful than any other type of certificate in the land of opportunities.

Anyway, I sincerely believe that experiences like yours are worth a lot to the members of this forum who have yet to make the final decision.

All the best, Wilf
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Originally posted by Megalania
Naming the fields they chose might help someone.
One's currently retraining as an accountant, and the other is now a physics teacher (secondary school).

The people who still fly have been working as corporate pilots, mainly doing freelance work, although one is now a flying instructor at a local club (he hates the wages though....).
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Originally posted by Megalania
Sure you would have lasted more than 2 days in any of those jobs? You appear too qualified and there are plenty of Aussies who will stay longer on the job for employers to choose from. There are too many city based commercial pilots in Aus and little demand for them in Brisbane. Seems you have changed direction several times so you would have been better advised to make your own business opportunities, something better than dodge'em cars.

Yep! I couldn't agree more! Australia is full of highly experienced (and bloody good) pilots, but there is just not the jobs there for
them all.

I have indeed changed career directions, three times so far, & I am now into Security Management.......which seems to be a growing industry these days for some reason or other?

Maybe you are correct, to really make it in Oz you need to start your own business and tackle it from that direction.

All I would like to point out to people applying from the UK is don't expect the same career opportunities as back home, although operating a 'Trade Business' (Plumbing etc) might be just the ticket for some?

Personally I loved Australia, but I seriously think I will have to wait a good few years until I can afford to retire there.
Retirement in Oz would suit me just fine!

Best of luck to all who go for it!

Cheers
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