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Larissa Jun 14th 2004 9:04 pm

Arrrggghhh why?
We're planning to go Sept, so could ship August. Thanks for the tip Timber.

fogmeister Jun 14th 2004 9:05 pm


Originally posted by Larissa
hi Timber
I got really bogged down in trying to work it out DIY, just looking to export one cat. I better start looking into it again. First thing is to get a government approved vet. Tests are more complicated for dogs. Will check out my old thread and bump it if its useful.
Good luck
Keep us posted on what you do. There isn't a lot on the site about doing it yourself, so it could be helpful to someone else in future.
Larissa
Hi all, I am exporting 2 miowwws within a month or so, its more straightforward than dogs as cats do not need to be blood tested, flights for 2 cats is around £600, with BA Cargo, the rest is outlined in an email I've pasted , good luck all

Good morning Paul.
>
>Thank you for your enquiry regarding the importation of cats from the United Kingdom (UK).
>
>The UK is a Category 2 country, described as "Approved rabies-free countries and Territories ... Minimum 30 days quarantine".
Accordingly, I attach for your information Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service (AQIS's) Information Sheets and refer you to
Information Sheet 2 for import conditions applicable to the UK. The application for an import permit is linked to the first page of
the information sheet. You can also access AQIS's website for further information at www.affa.gov.au or www.aqis.gov.au/icon.
>
>I will firstly respond to your specific query then provide some general information you may find useful when preparing your pets
for export.
>
>The "6 month waiting period between the taking of blood samples for the rabies vaccine up to importing" relates to the Pet Travel
Scheme.
>
>The Pet Travel Scheme was developed by the United Kingdom Department of Environment and Rural Affairs (DEFRA). Although the Scheme
is often referred to as the "Pet Passport Scheme", this term is misleading as pets generally travel with health certificates rather
than passports.
>
>It is important to note the Pet Travel Scheme only applies to cats and dogs travelling from Australia to the UK. Cats and dogs
arriving from the UK must meet the requirements of the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service (AQIS). These are attached
above.
>
>AQIS requirements do not include any rabies vaccinations or blood tests, due to the fact that the UK is rabies free. Unlike the
Pet Travel Scheme there is no six month "wait time" after the rabies blood test. This means that in most cases cats and dogs
travelling to Australia from the UK can be ready for travel 3-4 weeks (cats) or 4-6 weeks (dogs). On arrival in Australia cats and
dogs are housed in an AQIS Animal Quarantine Station for a minimum of 30 days. The DEFRA Pet Travel Scheme does not require animals
travelling to the UK to undergo quarantine as long as six months or more has elapsed between the rabies blood test and the date of
exporting to the UK. If less than six months has elapsed then the remainder of the six months will be spent by the animal in
quarantine in the UK.
>
>AQIS import conditions and the UK's Pet Travel Scheme are very different. The import of animals into Australia are subject to
AQIS's conditions: the Pet Travel Scheme can not be applied.
>
>General Information
>
>There are two different veterinarians involved in the export process.
>
>1. "Government approved vet"
>
>This veterinarian will prepare your pets for export to Australia and fill in the details of this preparation on Veterinary
Certificate A provided with your AQIS import permits.
>
>2. "Official Veterinarian"
>
>The "official" veterinarian is a government officer usually employed by the government veterinarian administration in the exporting
country (eg the Department of Environment Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA)). Official Veterinarians generally do not work in private
practice. Official Veterinarians are able to sign certificates on behalf of the government's veterinary administration. Official
Vets endorse Veterinary Certificate A and complete Veterinary Certificate B that are provided with your AQIS import permits. The
Official Veterinarian will also help you find a "government approved vet" and a "government approved laboratory".
>
>To assist you locating appropriate veterinarians in the UK, I suggest you contact DEFRA (refer DEFRA to obtain local office) at:
>
>Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
>1A Page Street
>London
>SWIP 4PQ
>
>Tel: (44 207) 904 6139/6000
>Fax: (44 207) 904 6242
>
>You should also confirm with DEFRA the officially recognised diagnostic laboratory for export testing in the UK is:
>
>Central Veterinary Laboratory
>Veterinary Laboratories Agency
>Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
>New Haw
>Addlestone
>Surrey
>DT15 3NB
>United Kingdom
>
>Phone: 019 3234 1111
>Fax: 019 3234 7046
>
>All costs associated with quarantine of cats are linked to the Information Sheet, however, you could expect to pay in the vicinity
of $1,226.00 Australian for the importation of two cats comprised of:
>
>$835.50 Australian for the 1st cat; and
>$390.50 Australian for each and every subsequent cat travelling in the same consignment as another pet from the same owner which
would cover:
>
>$260.00 Application Fee (must be sent with the application. If paying by cheque (cheques should be made payable to the "Collector
of Public Monies-AQIS" and marked $260AUD), your application should be posted to the quarantine station concerned. If, however, you
wish to pay by credit card (Amex, Visa, Matercard or Bankcard are accepted), you may post or fax your application to the quarantine
station concerned).
>
>Note: Owners of multiple pets will only be charged the application fee for the first animal in each consignment.
>
>When your pets arrive in Australia an invoice will be sent to your Australian address (which must be settled prior to your pets
being released from quarantine) covering:
>
>$014.00 Lodgement of quarantine entry form
>$071.00 Performance of service (1st half hour only)
>$035.50 Document clearance (1st quarter hour only)
>$095.00 Conveyance to quarantine station (business hours) (only one conveyance fee is charged "per consignment")
>$360.00 Accommodation ($12 per day x 30 for the 1st cat); and
>$270.00 Accommodation ($9 per day x 30 for each and every subsequent cat)
>
>It should be noted, however, that there may be additional charges imposed by the exporting country.
>
>Also in addition to the above would be any veterinary expenses incurred on behalf of your pets should they require veterinary
services whilst in quarantine plus transportation once the quarantine period is spent.
>
>All medical examinations and tests undertaken in preparation of exporting your pets are totally separate. Accordingly, you would
need to get in touch with the vet(s) performing these functions to ascertain costs involved.
>
>It must be noted that there are currently only three Government-approved quarantine stations in Australia: one in each State of New
South Wales (Eastern Creek), Victoria (Spotswood) and Western Australia (Byford). As quarantine must occur at the first point of
entry into Australia, you will need to ensure that your pets' flight comes directly into either Sydney, Melbourne or Perth airports.
No domestic travel is permitted within Australian until quarantine time has been served.
>
>As far as the quarantine procedure goes I advise that on arrival into Australia your pets will be collected by AQIS personnel,
cleared through Customs and then taken directly to the quarantine station. Visitation on the day the animals arrive in quarantine
is discouraged, however, as they are a little stressed from the trip and being in a new environment. It is considered if pets see
their owner(s) at this stage, they become even more unsettled.
>
>On arrival at the quarantine station, each pet is assigned a "carer" to look after them. This allows the pet to bond with an
individual rather than having many different carers who they don't get to know or understand.
>
>However, by way of lessening the impact on both yourself and your pets whilst they are in Australian quarantine, you are able to
visit them. Actual visitation details need to worked out with the Quarantine Station concerned.
>
>A description of what quarantine accommodation is like is as follows.
>
>Cat kennels are built in an upward fashion. On the floor they have a water bowl and litter tray. From there, they can climb 2
ladders which lead to a shelf. On this shelf they have an igloo which has an electric blanket for their comfort. From there they
can climb another ladder to what we call the basking shelf. They are now on top of the building with a great view. From here, cats
can absorb all the wind, rain and sunshine they like. If AQIS officers find cats are staying up there baking themselves too long,
they can close this hatch off. For cats who cannot climb, AQIS set them up on the floor with their igloos and blankets.
>
>All animals are fed a dry, complete food once per day. If AQIS or you feel that your pet requires additional feeding that too is
no problem for our staff. If your pet is on a medicated diet, please email or fax the quarantine station concerned one week prior
to your pet's arrival and, if at all possible, AQIS will be happy to arrange this food as well.
>
>All animals are brought out into a central grooming room for grooming, bathing and weighing.
>
>All pets can see other animals but without contact.
>
>I can assure you that all animals are very much loved whilst in Australian quarantine and as much care and affection as possible is
given.
>
>I have attached AQIS webpage relating to quarantine accommodation should you require further information.

>

chrissb Jun 14th 2004 10:23 pm

The Golden Arrow thing is better because he keeps up to date with the current tests not all shippers do. Some shippers do get it wrong. Golden Arrow give you envelopes to put all smples in and bllood tests in seperate pre paid envelopes and make the vet thing real cheap as well as that you get to pay no vat on your vet tests as he prcesses all that you just pay you local vet to do the easy bit taking the bloods and if they test positive for any thing you wll be told exactly what the treament is, also they may require all of your dogs to be treted if they have any bugs as they live together. Some of the' bugs' are accepeted in the u.k. as normal. but in A.U. you are not so lucky they want them sqeaky clean Also your dog still has to be on 'Clean' premises before leaving for 24 hours and flea sprayed with recommened spays and then they have to be signed fit for travel within 24 hours hour of flight . Then they nearly always want you to be in the country of destination before the dogs arrive this in its self can be a logistical night mare as flights for animals can be fully booked on all carriers for up to three months . I am sure you will find that the only approved airline to A.U. for animals are British Airways these days although they change that one like the weather. hope this helps
chrissb:beer:

Teddybex Jun 15th 2004 3:25 am

Re: FRiggin PET carriers
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Where abouts in Brissy arya heading m8 ??
Hiya. We're not sure yet, hoping to travel round a bit. We'll be staying in Sydney while our dog is in quarantine and then heading for Brisbane. What about you? Any recommendations?

steve-n-jo Jun 15th 2004 4:12 am

Re: FRiggin PET carriers
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Bloody prices for exporting pets has nrly doubled !!!!!!

WHats goin on ARgghhhhhhhh


Just had prices thru from various places and Airpets want 10 GRAND !!

for 4 bleedin dogs, ok they are newfoundlands, but MAD!!!!!!

Anyone any experience of sending them DIY, and if so how dya get prices for flights etc for pets??


Steve
We found the prices so expensive...we had too get shot of the dog (bitch)...a lovely pedigree doberman....she was lovely the best pet we ever had...


but for the prices we were quoted it was a toss up between a down payment on a boat and keeping our trusty friend....

sadly for the dog (bitch) it came up heads...:( :(

Oh well life must go on.....just hope the boats decent so we can name it after her !!:D

irishmolly Jun 15th 2004 4:21 am


Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Hi Larissa

Apparently we are told all shipping costs for pets are set to skyrocket from Sept 1st 2004 !!! Ill check out that link thanks :)
Timber,

Where did you read that the charges are going up from 1st Sept ?

If this is true, that is bloody ridiculous, it costs about £2500 for 2 adults and 2 kids to Brisbane yet my Weimeraner dog costs nearly as much :scared: the dog takes up much less room and certainly eats less - wheres the logic ?

This is certainly rip-off society.

callé Jun 15th 2004 5:05 am

Fogmeister, thanks heaps for the loads of information. I think, no, I KNOW that my biggest worry in all this stuff is that my doggies get through it alright. its comforting to read that they have one caretaker to pay attention to them. its still going to be tough for mine though. Cocoa sleeps right next to 'mummy' every night.:(

debsvirgo Jun 15th 2004 5:21 am


Originally posted by irishmolly
Timber,

Where did you read that the charges are going up from 1st Sept ?

If this is true, that is bloody ridiculous, it costs about £2500 for 2 adults and 2 kids to Brisbane yet my Weimeraner dog costs nearly as much :scared: the dog takes up much less room and certainly eats less - wheres the logic ?

This is certainly rip-off society.
Hi its Mrs Timber here

Ryslip kenels said 1st sept they go up by 25%
Airpets said they have just doubled!!!
Golden arrow say sept

I tend to beleive Ryslip so even if you fly in september so long as your flight is booked for pooch before 1st sept thats ok you will miss the price increase.

regards

Debs

MELANIE6 Jun 15th 2004 8:19 am


Originally posted by debsvirgo
Hi its Mrs Timber here

Ryslip kenels said 1st sept they go up by 25%
Airpets said they have just doubled!!!
Golden arrow say sept

I tend to beleive Ryslip so even if you fly in september so long as your flight is booked for pooch before 1st sept thats ok you will miss the price increase.

regards

Debs
Hi there, for what its worth I'm using Air Supply for my dog and 2 cats, and their prices went up 1st June - had to pay 200. deposit on 31st May to secure old price - so beware.

Salli Jun 24th 2004 4:03 am


Originally posted by debsvirgo
Hi its Mrs Timber here

Ryslip kenels said 1st sept they go up by 25%
Airpets said they have just doubled!!!
Golden arrow say sept

I tend to beleive Ryslip so even if you fly in september so long as your flight is booked for pooch before 1st sept thats ok you will miss the price increase.

regards

Debs
Hi there, do you have the details for Ryslip?

Thanks so much

Sazzle Jun 24th 2004 6:06 am

We are taking our dog to NZ.

She is costing 2300 through Golden Arrow.

About 30% more thru Airpets. Also, Golden Arrow give you a kit for all the Vet bits, with dates and instructions.. its fool proof, and its in the price.

As I recall the more expensive Airpets quote EXCLUDED the vet work. which makes them even more expensive.

Only drawback was we have to get the dog to Shropshire. NP.

JayDeee Jun 24th 2004 11:25 am

Re: FRiggin PET carriers
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Thanks for reply, we have spoken to Golden Arrow and await a quote from them.

Re bugs and stuff, thats a prelim check via Vets, and has nothing to do with the pet carrier.
Also Pet passports dont apply one way to Australia

Also quarantine is excluded from MOST if not all shipping costs.

Pick up costs other side have also little bearing on prices quoted UK>

So really and truthfully you didnt quite get the GIST of my post :)

But thanks anyway

Hi

In answer to your question, If you know all the rules as to the pets health, quaranty rules etc then this might help you.

Feel like a bit of an eejit for saying this as I have said it soo many times on this forum but " the airline I work for have quoted me a price of £200=-£400 ( I was very general with my question but UK to LA costs no more than £200) to fly a cat to OZ (this is general public price not staff price)

If you feel that you know enough of the rules with sending an animal to Oz then this will prob work out for you. ring around the airlines that fly to where you are moving to and get there cargo dept (this is the part of the company who will transport your pet)

You could save a hell of a lot of money dong a DIY job.


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