Filling in a pool
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:14 pm
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Re: Filling in a pool
Call local pool construction companies.
Ask them what they do with their earth and woudl they like to dump it.
If they use subcontract excavation people then call them and ask them the same.
Also you could try excavation and earth moving companies. They have spare earth a lot of the time.
You do though need to have a clue or otherwise you need to pay someone to backfill your pool - the earth needs to be compacted and the drainage needs to be considered.
Are you selling your fencing?
Ask them what they do with their earth and woudl they like to dump it.
If they use subcontract excavation people then call them and ask them the same.
Also you could try excavation and earth moving companies. They have spare earth a lot of the time.
You do though need to have a clue or otherwise you need to pay someone to backfill your pool - the earth needs to be compacted and the drainage needs to be considered.
Are you selling your fencing?
The fencing follows the property perimeter so will remain.
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:21 pm
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That's only required if there are small children around right?
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:25 pm
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No..
Every Pool needs fully compliant fencing.
http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/building/p...cing-laws.html
Penalties of up to $12,375 and on-the-spot fines of up to $525 can be imposed on pool owners if their pool fence does not comply with the law.
Every Pool needs fully compliant fencing.
http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/building/p...cing-laws.html
Penalties of up to $12,375 and on-the-spot fines of up to $525 can be imposed on pool owners if their pool fence does not comply with the law.
Last edited by ABCDiamond; Jan 5th 2009 at 11:27 pm. Reason: added link
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:26 pm
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Re: Filling in a pool
Hmm that's not what I was told but I am willing to accept that you are right. When did this become law as I bought this place in March?
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:41 pm
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Talking about pool fencing...
How many of you are within the law with your fence ?
Can you answer YES to this question?
or this one:
I'm not sure I'd pass inspection, without moving a few things out of the 1.2 metre range.
How many of you are within the law with your fence ?
Can you answer YES to this question?
My pool fence is at least 1.2 metres away from any object that would allow a child to climb over the fence—BBQs, trees, rocks, shrubs, furniture, etc.
I never prop open or tie back my pool gate, or otherwise obstruct it from automatically closing.
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:52 pm
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I can answer yes and yes.
Reading the pdf at the link you posted it seems that older pools have relaxed regulations. Mine was built some time ago so I need to ring the council to find out.
Reading the pdf at the link you posted it seems that older pools have relaxed regulations. Mine was built some time ago so I need to ring the council to find out.
Jan 5th 2009 | 11:59 pm
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However, mandatory pool fences came in in 1991.
If your pool was built before 1991, and all windows that are within the fencing, are protected, ie "a child cannot get through them", and the door is a protected door, ie: self closing, and with handles above a certain height, then an outside perimeter fence that otherwise complies, including self closing gates, with approved catches above a certain height, may be sufficient.
Page 8 of this PDF file: http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/resources/..._lo.pdf#page=8
Jan 6th 2009 | 12:01 am
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Re: Filling in a pool
I've just done some digging on this, and found that quite a few people think that a fence may not be needed if it was built before a certain date, or if they have no children, etc.
However, mandatory pool fences came in in 1991.
If your pool was built before 1991, and all windows that are within the fencing, are protected, ie "a child cannot get through them", and the door is a protected door, ie: self closing, and with handles above a certain height, then an outside perimeter fence that otherwise complies, including self closing gates, with approved catches above a certain height, may be sufficient.
Page 8 of this PDF file: http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/resources/..._lo.pdf#page=8
However, mandatory pool fences came in in 1991.
If your pool was built before 1991, and all windows that are within the fencing, are protected, ie "a child cannot get through them", and the door is a protected door, ie: self closing, and with handles above a certain height, then an outside perimeter fence that otherwise complies, including self closing gates, with approved catches above a certain height, may be sufficient.
Page 8 of this PDF file: http://www.dip.qld.gov.au/resources/..._lo.pdf#page=8
Jan 6th 2009 | 12:21 am
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A courier mail newspaper article has this quote:
Was it the Real Estate agent who told you it wasn't required ?
I remember looking at a house in 2003, and the pool didn't have a fence, and we were told something similar by the agent.
Fence laws 'misunderstood'
A POOR understanding of pool fence laws and misconceptions about how they apply to everyone are the most common reasons given for inadequate safety fencing, council inspectors say.
Reasons commonly given for safety fence breaches include:
• A pool fence is not needed if there are no children living in the house.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...016679,00.html
A POOR understanding of pool fence laws and misconceptions about how they apply to everyone are the most common reasons given for inadequate safety fencing, council inspectors say.
Reasons commonly given for safety fence breaches include:
• A pool fence is not needed if there are no children living in the house.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...016679,00.html
I remember looking at a house in 2003, and the pool didn't have a fence, and we were told something similar by the agent.
Jan 6th 2009 | 12:24 am
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They didn't say anything about it and they knew we were new to Australia - don't know how that stands as a defence. It's my (local) friends who said I wouldn't need one.
Jan 6th 2009 | 8:23 am
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regulation or no regulations, I would never be without a fence - you just see kids dying all the time. Not just the owners children either, kids retrieving balls from next door etc. It is such a high risk and just not worth it.
also the regulations are in place - you have a pool, you do need a fence. Except if you have the very cool auto closing, auto locking doors that constitute a fence.
Viv
also the regulations are in place - you have a pool, you do need a fence. Except if you have the very cool auto closing, auto locking doors that constitute a fence.
Viv
Jan 6th 2009 | 9:21 am
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regulation or no regulations, I would never be without a fence - you just see kids dying all the time. Not just the owners children either, kids retrieving balls from next door etc. It is such a high risk and just not worth it.
also the regulations are in place - you have a pool, you do need a fence. Except if you have the very cool auto closing, auto locking doors that constitute a fence.
Viv
also the regulations are in place - you have a pool, you do need a fence. Except if you have the very cool auto closing, auto locking doors that constitute a fence.
Viv
Jan 6th 2009 | 1:33 pm
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I have to move a big pot, must admit i'd never thought of it until a friend mentioned maybe DD could climb over...
Jan 9th 2009 | 10:16 am
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Re: Filling in a pool
I was speaking to a pool consultant who showed me these self closing, self locking doors that are apparently ok. I will double check this with coucil.
This is not for my main house, I have a workshop in the garden that we are turning into a studio flat and it will be straight onto the pool.
It has two sets of double doors one onto the garden and one onto the pool and therefore can be considered an entry - if only the one set of doors were onto the pool it would be ok.
I really dont want to fence around the pool side doors as it wont be as nice so am considering just permanently closing one set of doors. I have a guy coming to talk about the door closign things but I wont be able to stretch the budget to that - we have so many things that would need to be done before that.
Vivienne
This is not for my main house, I have a workshop in the garden that we are turning into a studio flat and it will be straight onto the pool.
It has two sets of double doors one onto the garden and one onto the pool and therefore can be considered an entry - if only the one set of doors were onto the pool it would be ok.
I really dont want to fence around the pool side doors as it wont be as nice so am considering just permanently closing one set of doors. I have a guy coming to talk about the door closign things but I wont be able to stretch the budget to that - we have so many things that would need to be done before that.
Vivienne
