Eu/eea/australia?
Sep 16th 2005, 6:37 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
English isn't my first language either but let's see if I can get this clarified for the OP, Smurtaza.
I think the OP wants to know why Australia does not have a visa-free work or travel arrangement with the EU.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Many countries in the EU, though not all, participate in the Shengen visa system. When travellers from outside the EU visit these Shengen states, they only have to apply for one visa and can travel visa-free in all the Shengen states. There are also non-EU countries (e.g. Australia) that have arrangements with the Shengen states so that visas aren't required for tourists for less than 90 days of travel in either direction.
An Australian passport is not seen as inferior or superior to a EU passport. It's just the way diplomatic relationships work. If country A gives country B visa-free access, country B does the same for country A. Simple as that.
When you say "India have signed economic contract with EU and trying very hard to get in EU", I hope you mean India wants to have some free-trade agreement with EU, not India wants to become a member of the UE?!
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Mrs JTL
P.S. Guys, please be gentle, unless of course this thread is a windup. It doesn't seem to be one though.
I think the OP wants to know why Australia does not have a visa-free work or travel arrangement with the EU.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Many countries in the EU, though not all, participate in the Shengen visa system. When travellers from outside the EU visit these Shengen states, they only have to apply for one visa and can travel visa-free in all the Shengen states. There are also non-EU countries (e.g. Australia) that have arrangements with the Shengen states so that visas aren't required for tourists for less than 90 days of travel in either direction.
An Australian passport is not seen as inferior or superior to a EU passport. It's just the way diplomatic relationships work. If country A gives country B visa-free access, country B does the same for country A. Simple as that.
When you say "India have signed economic contract with EU and trying very hard to get in EU", I hope you mean India wants to have some free-trade agreement with EU, not India wants to become a member of the UE?!
Cheers,
Mrs JTL
P.S. Guys, please be gentle, unless of course this thread is a windup. It doesn't seem to be one though.
Sep 16th 2005, 6:38 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by aussie73
l knew an Aussie who went on a holiday in Indonesia just after the BAli bombing and the locals waved matches and lighters in her face shouting
" burn Aussie burn".
" burn Aussie burn".
Sep 16th 2005, 6:40 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
English isn't my first language either but let's see if I can get this clarified for the OP, Smurtaza.
I think the OP wants to know why Australia does not have a visa-free work or travel arrangement with the EU.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Many countries in the EU, though not all, participate in the Shengen visa system. When travellers from outside the EU visit these Shengen states, they only have to apply for one visa and can travel visa-free in all the Shengen states. There are also non-EU countries (e.g. Australia) that have arrangements with the Shengen states so that visas aren't required for tourists for less than 90 days of travel in either direction.
An Australian passport is not seen as inferior or superior to a EU passport. It's just the way diplomatic relationships work. If country A gives country B visa-free access, country B does the same for country A. Simple as that.
When you say "India have signed economic contract with EU and trying very hard to get in EU", I hope you mean India wants to have some free-trade agreement with EU, not India wants to become a member of the UE?!
Cheers,
Mrs JTL
P.S. Guys, please be gentle, unless of course this thread is a windup. It doesn't seem to be one though.
I think the OP wants to know why Australia does not have a visa-free work or travel arrangement with the EU.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Many countries in the EU, though not all, participate in the Shengen visa system. When travellers from outside the EU visit these Shengen states, they only have to apply for one visa and can travel visa-free in all the Shengen states. There are also non-EU countries (e.g. Australia) that have arrangements with the Shengen states so that visas aren't required for tourists for less than 90 days of travel in either direction.
An Australian passport is not seen as inferior or superior to a EU passport. It's just the way diplomatic relationships work. If country A gives country B visa-free access, country B does the same for country A. Simple as that.
When you say "India have signed economic contract with EU and trying very hard to get in EU", I hope you mean India wants to have some free-trade agreement with EU, not India wants to become a member of the UE?!
Cheers,
Mrs JTL
P.S. Guys, please be gentle, unless of course this thread is a windup. It doesn't seem to be one though.
Sep 16th 2005, 6:44 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by aussie73
l heard a story about an Aussie who went on a holiday in Indonesia just after the BAli bombing and some of the locals waved matches and lighters in her face shouting " burn Aussie burn".
Yep - could imagine that in parts of Jakarta. Couldn't see it happening in Bali though.
Sep 16th 2005, 9:42 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by steve99
Where were you 30mins ago when we needed you
Mrs JTL
P.S. And it took me a few hours to type this response too...
Sep 16th 2005, 9:52 am
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What a corker of a thread. Made my day. There really are some nutters out there, its not just on Little Britain!
Sep 16th 2005, 9:57 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Sep 16th 2005, 10:03 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by Steve G
Sep 17th 2005, 6:27 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by smurtaza
How about travelling to UK,USA,Canada or EU/EEA as Australian.Does an Australian(Australian passport holder) need to apply for a short trip visa to these countries?
Sep 17th 2005, 9:39 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by NKSK
This isn't the fault of the Australian government. It's the responsibility of the EU to decide to offer (or not) a EU wide visa to Australians. To me it just shows up the deficiencies of the EU system. A visa for one EU country should be transferable to all EU countries.
Why? The EU is not a country.
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Sep 17th 2005, 9:41 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by NKSK
There will be very little benefit over and above a EU passport.
If you don't have a EU passport then an Australian passport will give you entry to many more countries without the need for a visa.
If you don't have a EU passport then an Australian passport will give you entry to many more countries without the need for a visa.
There is no such thing as an "EU passport". The EU is not a country and does not issue passports.
Jeremy
Sep 19th 2005, 7:30 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
I think the OP wants to know why Australia does not have a visa-free work or travel arrangement with the EU.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Smurtaza - the travel or work visa arrangement is almost always a reciprical relationship. Australian passport holders need a visa to visit some European countries, and likewise some Europeans need a visa (or an ETA) to visit Australia.
Sep 19th 2005, 7:43 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by smurtaza
A person born in Australian need a visa to goto Europe(or travel to Europe) or Britian but a person born in EEA/EU country doesn't need any visa or anything.
Although German is language for Germany and Spanish is for Spain.
The person born in EU/EEA can live, work in any European country on his EEA/EU passport using same currency.Why?????Why Australia unfit to be considered for such previliges, although, its one the most favourite places of british people to live and work.
Although German is language for Germany and Spanish is for Spain.
The person born in EU/EEA can live, work in any European country on his EEA/EU passport using same currency.Why?????Why Australia unfit to be considered for such previliges, although, its one the most favourite places of british people to live and work.
Err I notice you are from Coburg as well, Well the Aussie passport is ok for this european suburb eh
Seriously though, I think the answer is Australia in the whole scheme of things is probably as sort after destination by people wanting to live in a country as is most countrys of europe.
IE: Australia is a very popular place to live, and the benefits of that are enough.
Sep 19th 2005, 7:46 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by CPW
I can't think of one EU or EEA country for which Australians need a visa for short-term stays as a visitor - out of interest, are they are any? Those European countries that have such a requirement for Australian passport holders are all (as far as I know) outside the EU/EEA (e.g. Roumania, Russia, the Ukraine (I think) and so on).
No you just need proof of return, I think the same applies to Canada and the US, not sure on that one.
Sep 19th 2005, 8:06 am
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Re: Eu/eea/australia?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
No you just need proof of return, I think the same applies to Canada and the US, not sure on that one.
In overall terms, an Australian passport is, at the present time, a pretty good document for world travel, it has to be said, allowing as it does visa-free travel to all of the EU/EEA, most of North America, much of south-east Asia, Japan, South Africa, and so on and so on.