Education
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My daughter will have finished year 12 in uk and jsut completed her AS levels {first year of A levels} how do i find out if she can carry on with these or what points they will give her so she can go to Taff or uni in Brisbane? any help very grateful
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She could go to TAFE but I'm not sure they would qualify AS as anything...
Definitely not get into UNI
Better to go to school and do Year 11 and 12 here I say.
How old is your daughter?
Definitely not get into UNI
Better to go to school and do Year 11 and 12 here I say.
How old is your daughter?
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shes 17 and half and will have done her AS levels in may this year. But we cant wait another year to go ? why will they not count as anything?
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However there was a girl on one thread who good good enough grades at AS to do a conversion test and has started uni but not afaik one of the major unis. It would definitely be an advantage for her to do her A levels and she might well get into courses that she wouldnt get in to in UK with them. Perhaps she could stay and do them and then come out later. She shouldnt have any problems getting into TAFE with them because many TAFE courses have no prerequisites.
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Sorry to jump on this thread, my daughter is doing her A levels, she will complete 2nd yr nxt yr, will 3 A levels get her into uni in OZ?
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Here's the deal with VIC http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/vcere...lentquals.html
Tells you what the VCE is equal to in terms of A-levels and GCSEs. Year 12 VCE is 2 A-levels and 3 GCSEs.
Tells you what the VCE is equal to in terms of A-levels and GCSEs. Year 12 VCE is 2 A-levels and 3 GCSEs.
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A quote from the "Legislative guidelines for the Queensland Certificate of Education" under the "Equivalent overseas and interstate qualifications" section.
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United Kingdom (excluding Scotland)
Subjects assessed using General Certificate of Secondary Education (GCSE),
General Certificate of Education Advanced Subsidiary Level (AS-Level) or
General Certificate of Education Advanced Level (GCE A-Level) examinations.
Results for studies assessed by General Certificate of Education (GCSE) examinations can contribute up to six credits towards the QCE.
Subjects assessed using General Certificate of Secondary Education (GCSE),
General Certificate of Education Advanced Subsidiary Level (AS-Level) or
General Certificate of Education Advanced Level (GCE A-Level) examinations.
Results for studies assessed by General Certificate of Education (GCSE) examinations can contribute up to six credits towards the QCE.
Section 40 of the Regulation allows the Authority to decide, for the purpose of awarding the QCE, whether a qualification issued in a foreign country is equivalent to the QCE.
The Regulation states that the Authority may decide a qualification is equivalent to the QCE only if the Authority is satisfied that the qualification relates to a level of schooling that is equivalent to senior secondary education; and the extent of the studies contributing to the issue of the qualification is comparable to the extent of studies contributing to the issue of a QCE.
Section 40(3) requires the Authority to make a guideline stating any matters to which the Authority must have regard when deciding whether a qualification issued in a foreign country is equivalent to the QCE.
In making a decision about whether a qualification issued in a foreign country is equivalent to the QCE, the QSA will consider the information regarding equivalence available from at least two reference sources:
UK NARIC — the national agency, managed on behalf of the UK Government, which is responsible for providing information and expert opinion on vocational, academic and professional skills and qualifications from over 180 countries worldwide.........
The Regulation states that the Authority may decide a qualification is equivalent to the QCE only if the Authority is satisfied that the qualification relates to a level of schooling that is equivalent to senior secondary education; and the extent of the studies contributing to the issue of the qualification is comparable to the extent of studies contributing to the issue of a QCE.
Section 40(3) requires the Authority to make a guideline stating any matters to which the Authority must have regard when deciding whether a qualification issued in a foreign country is equivalent to the QCE.
In making a decision about whether a qualification issued in a foreign country is equivalent to the QCE, the QSA will consider the information regarding equivalence available from at least two reference sources:
UK NARIC — the national agency, managed on behalf of the UK Government, which is responsible for providing information and expert opinion on vocational, academic and professional skills and qualifications from over 180 countries worldwide.........
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hi all
i'm in the same position i have a 18 and 17 year old that have both done there AS levels (year 12) this year and will be finished by early june.
we have to emigrate at the end of june, we cannot wait any longer and am unsure as to what they are going to do in terms of their education! they are hoping to go to uni and my thoughts are that they would need to go to TAFE to do some kind of foundation course for uni.
is it possible for older children to do years 11 & 12 in the australian education system? where would they do this, in a high school with the younger children or in a college with older learners?
please help
jo
i'm in the same position i have a 18 and 17 year old that have both done there AS levels (year 12) this year and will be finished by early june.
we have to emigrate at the end of june, we cannot wait any longer and am unsure as to what they are going to do in terms of their education! they are hoping to go to uni and my thoughts are that they would need to go to TAFE to do some kind of foundation course for uni.
is it possible for older children to do years 11 & 12 in the australian education system? where would they do this, in a high school with the younger children or in a college with older learners?
please help
jo
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I just located this on one University website, although not a major uni.
EQUIVALENT TO (AUS) YEAR 11
UK GCE O level exam pass grades in 4 major subjects
EQUIVALENT TO (AUS) YEAR 12
UK GCE A level exam pass grades in 2 major subjects
UK GCE O level exam pass grades in 4 major subjects
EQUIVALENT TO (AUS) YEAR 12
UK GCE A level exam pass grades in 2 major subjects
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Comparative educational outcomes: UK/Australia
The Australian senior secondary program is often less specialised than a UK A-level program, and individual subjects may differ in content or depth.
The National Academic Recognition Information Centre for the United Kingdom (UK NARIC) advises that the senior secondary certificates of the Australian states and territories are generally considered to satisfy entrance requirements of British universities if a tertiary entrance score/rating at a specified level has been achieved.
It is a matter for individual UK universities to determine whether the Australian program meets the institution’s specific prerequisite subject requirements.
Australian universities regard UK A levels as a Year 12 qualification for admission purposes.
http://aei.gov.au/aei/cep/australia/...qualindicators
Australian Education International
The Australian senior secondary program is often less specialised than a UK A-level program, and individual subjects may differ in content or depth.
The National Academic Recognition Information Centre for the United Kingdom (UK NARIC) advises that the senior secondary certificates of the Australian states and territories are generally considered to satisfy entrance requirements of British universities if a tertiary entrance score/rating at a specified level has been achieved.
It is a matter for individual UK universities to determine whether the Australian program meets the institution’s specific prerequisite subject requirements.
Australian universities regard UK A levels as a Year 12 qualification for admission purposes.
http://aei.gov.au/aei/cep/australia/...qualindicators
Australian Education International
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This is what I would do in VIC.
Come here with AS levels, enter year 12 and do the VCE.
People in the UK may not realise that the system here is very flexible.
In the UK you choose your 3 'A' levels in lower six and that's it - there is no going back as you can't change the subjects you study in upper six unless you are superman!
In VIC it's not unusual for kids to choose something in year 12 (upper six) different to what they studied in year 11.
For instance, my daughter did chemistry in year 11 and I was hoping she would go on to do it in year 12. Note, the public exam in year 12 follows the year 12 syllabus and not both years as in the UK. She decided it was not for her and changed to Specialist Maths having discussed with her teacher whether she would cope.
You need to discuss with a local school the best choice of VCE (substitute your state's school certificate) based on your kid's existing knowledge and their career choice.
EDIT: try and get here before the end of year 11 so that they can make friends and do some cath-up, if needed, in the holiday. School year starts end Jan.
Ian
Come here with AS levels, enter year 12 and do the VCE.
People in the UK may not realise that the system here is very flexible.
In the UK you choose your 3 'A' levels in lower six and that's it - there is no going back as you can't change the subjects you study in upper six unless you are superman!
In VIC it's not unusual for kids to choose something in year 12 (upper six) different to what they studied in year 11.
For instance, my daughter did chemistry in year 11 and I was hoping she would go on to do it in year 12. Note, the public exam in year 12 follows the year 12 syllabus and not both years as in the UK. She decided it was not for her and changed to Specialist Maths having discussed with her teacher whether she would cope.
You need to discuss with a local school the best choice of VCE (substitute your state's school certificate) based on your kid's existing knowledge and their career choice.
EDIT: try and get here before the end of year 11 so that they can make friends and do some cath-up, if needed, in the holiday. School year starts end Jan.
Ian
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hi thanks for the reply. she will be 18 in sept and would have been going into year 13 here. do you mean go bak to school and do year 11 in australia?
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Year 12 is the important one for exams. We have VCE here in VIC whilst QLD has OP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overall_Position. You need to google.
Uni starts in March with school terms starting end Jan. School year finishes in December.
There must be a QLD SC teacher on the forum? Start a thread asking for one to ID their self?
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I don't want to confuse you - but here is another option. Many TAFE programs have articulation with universities. To put it simply it means that the university recognised the content of the TAFE program and gives them credits towards a degree.
The advantage of going through TAFE via an articulation program is it gives the student time to adjust to the differences between teaching in the UK and teaching here in Australia. Also they have smaller class sizes than in university and can provide more one-on-one attention if required. Sometimes this is good if they are dealing with the emotional upheaval of migrating.
Most TAFES run international programs and have international students (these are on student visas and pay international fees) and so are used to slotting in international students who have gained their qualifications from overseas. You can contact TAFE and they should be able to provide you with lots of information. Some of the colleges also have articulation programs.
I'd also contact a local school. They are usually very helpful and will put you in contact with their guidance/career officer. Most schools will have migrants and so are used to slotting them in - the only thing you have to remember is different states have different systems.
One thing to remember even though you are on PR you do have to pay course fees for TAFE unless you qualify for youth allowance etc - information on this is on the TAFE websites or Centrelink.
If you are unsure of what state highschool to contact I can give you the number of a local state school who has slotted pupils in with these qualifications. If you PM me I can give you their number. Even if you're not coming to their location they are very helpful. The school is in Brisbane.