|
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 7893867)
The rules have also been eased for "specialist professionals", who will still need four years of permanent residency but will need to have spent only 16 months in the country. Those who have petitioned the minister include airline pilots, oil rig workers and scientists. "The revamped requirements will create a fairer system for people who, due to circumstances beyond their control, are currently ineligible for citizenship," Senator Evans said. I don't see what the problem is? I'd have thought it was going to benefit an awful lot more people than just those who could represent Australia in a sporting event. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by Dreamy
(Post 7895376)
They still need to have 4 years in Aus (I take it that its the same rules as now, 4 years in the country, at least one of which is as PR, rather than the 4 years of PR it says in the article?)
I don't see what the problem is? I'd have thought it was going to benefit an awful lot more people than just those who could represent Australia in a sporting event. In some quite restricted circumstances, time outside Australia could be allowed, for those like international sportsmen and women. The change to the law in 2007 removed any scope for discretion if time physically outside Australia exceeded 25%, except for spouses of Australian citizens or those under 18. It's unclear why DIAC did this. They were strict on the discretion before, and were supported at the AAT. And no-one in Parliament was smart or engaged enough to spot the effect of the clause in the 2007 Bill. So, inevitably, DIAC need to change the law. The existing cases must have all been granted using the existing law + transitional provisions. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 7895539)
In some quite restricted circumstances, time outside Australia could be allowed, for those like international sportsmen and women. The change to the law in 2007 removed any scope for discretion if time physically outside Australia exceeded 25%, except for spouses of Australian citizens or those under 18.
It's unclear why DIAC did this. They were strict on the discretion before, and were supported at the AAT. And no-one in Parliament was smart or engaged enough to spot the effect of the clause in the 2007 Bill. My reading of the new rules (which could be wrong based on dodgy journalism) is that elite athletes will have a different basic requirement to everyone else i.e. 2 years vs 4 years. Why not 4 years with discretion applied at the end of that period - that would be a situation similar to pre 2007? |
Re: Easy Citizenship
As soon as wine drinking or talking bollocks become Olympic sports they will be kicking my door down.....
|
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 7895736)
As soon as wine drinking or talking bollocks become Olympic sports they will be kicking my door down.....
|
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 7895577)
Is it not a little different though in that before the 2007 act - the 2 year residency rule applied to ALL - with discretion allowed for special circumstances. Discretion I have no problem with as clearly touring athletes & airline pilots could never become citizens, not until they retired from their vocation anyway.
My reading of the new rules (which could be wrong based on dodgy journalism) is that elite athletes will have a different basic requirement to everyone else i.e. 2 years vs 4 years. Why not 4 years with discretion applied at the end of that period - that would be a situation similar to pre 2007? Other than that, your point is correct but it makes little practical distinction to the pre-2007 situation. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 7895539)
It's unclear why DIAC did this. They were strict on the discretion before, and were supported at the AAT. And no-one in Parliament was smart or engaged enough to spot the effect of the clause in the 2007 Bill.
The rules have also been eased for "specialist professionals", who will still need four years of permanent residency but will need to have spent only 16 months in the country. Those who have petitioned the minister include airline pilots, oil rig workers and scientists. "The revamped requirements will create a fairer system for people who, due to circumstances beyond their control, are currently ineligible for citizenship," Senator Evans said. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by ex_exile
(Post 7895964)
It was odd that no-one could see the problems caused by the removal of discression
This does make sense, I am having to watch my work travel days to be able to get in under the old legislation (2 years in OZ by 1/7/10) my role is defined as APAC so travelling throughout the region is required. I dont have a particularly high level position so others must have a similar or greater travel requirements just to hold down their job. Also, make sure you do the citizenship test asap, there will be a rush of people in May/June 2010. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 7896151)
Not surprising in the least - many if not most MPs do not have the life experience to understand what they vote on (or even ask the why question), and the small number that do are intimidated by the party machine.
Watch your days and be prepared to turn down travel if needed. As far as I am aware, the 2 year residence period was extended but the discretion on time outside Australia was not. Also, make sure you do the citizenship test asap, there will be a rush of people in May/June 2010. |
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 7895736)
As soon as wine drinking or talking bollocks become Olympic sports they will be kicking my door down.....
|
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by cypry
(Post 7896342)
Your a bloody politician then !!! ... LOL
|
Re: Easy Citizenship
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 7895923)
The 4 year residence rule doesn't apply to ALL ... there are exemptions for those in the defence forces (3 or 6 months),
|
| All times are GMT -12. The time now is 4:37 am. |
Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.