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Old Sep 8th 2011 | 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes
Okay, my apologies. This has changed recently. My step-daughter is on P plates and lives in SA.

On L plates she couldn't do more than 80. Now, on Ps she can do 100 but is still limited to 100 if the speed limit is 110.

This really is one area of law that needs to be covered by federal law I reckon.
Ah, it could have changed. They did change some rules about a year ago, so that could be one of them.

It was 100 when I was on P's - that was just over 2 years ago
 
Old Sep 9th 2011 | 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Wendy
Ah, it could have changed. They did change some rules about a year ago, so that could be one of them.

It was 100 when I was on P's - that was just over 2 years ago
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Old Sep 9th 2011 | 5:44 pm
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Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.
 
Old Sep 9th 2011 | 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955
Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.
And you call other people self-righteous...

I'd say most Australian drivers are as good as British ones, unless you are living in redneck ville - or have an axe to grind.

I mean 'can't merge' - it's not in the nation's genes - you know.
Drivers in Melbourne seem to be able to merge quite happily - at the Wellington Road intersection anyhow...

I was thinking about undetaking the other day when I was driving - they undertake because they are allowed to. If anything, this causes double the opportunity for mishap or misunderstanding - IMHO. If it was outlawed, we would have very similar conditions to the UK with regards to apparent lane discipline.
 
Old Sep 9th 2011 | 6:19 pm
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No I didn't.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
And you call other people self-righteous...
 
Old Sep 9th 2011 | 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by fish.01
It got lost along the way in the thread MP but they were talking about u-turns at traffic lights....can't do them in qld unless signed....in normal breaks in the road you can do them unless signed that you can't.
Yep.

Originally Posted by shussel
My husband got a fine in NSW when we first arrived because we did a u-turn at traffic lights. In the UK, you can do this if it's safe to do so. In NSW, you CAN'T do a u-turn unless there is a sign telling you it's permitted.

After he got that fine we wondered what else we didn't know so looked up the driving rules and regs on the RTA website (NSW traffic authority). Each state has a brochure.

Just an observation but in Sydney there aren't many roundabouts and the few that I encounter are very dangerous as noone seems to know what to do!
Originally Posted by Rambi
This highlights one of the inter-state differences. In Vic, it's the same rule as the UK, you can do a U-turn unless signed that you can't.

I know they tried to nationalise the rules in the 90s and there has been some convergence but with some of the rules you can see the cost of changing would just outweigh the minimal benefits gained.


I guess a big one to mention is that you shouldn't park against the flow of traffic. That seems to catch quite a few.

Can you both clarify please this for your State.

In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?

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Originally Posted by Alfresco
In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?
Sounds like WA matches QLD, http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafeFull.pdf:

3.14.3 ‘U’ turns
You must not make a ‘U’ turn:
  • unless the turn can be made safely and without interfering with the movement of other traffic;
  • if there is a ‘NO U TURN’ sign;
  • at traffic control signals (unless there is a ‘U TURN PERMITTED’ sign); or on a freeway.

Remember, when making a ‘U’ turn, the correct procedure is to:
  • look in your rear view mirror;
  • indicate/signal your intentions;
  • give way to all pedestrians and traffic;
  • check for following traffic by glancing over your shoulder; and
  • turn only if it is safe to do so
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3.10 Traffic CONTROL Signals
You cannot do a ‘U’ turn at an intersection with traffic control signals unless there is a ‘U TURN PERMITTED’ sign.

Failure to give way to a pedestrian or oncoming vehicle when turning at an intersection; or to a pedestrian or other vehicle when making a U turn: fine of 3 penalty units, 3 demerit points.
 
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Originally Posted by chris955
Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.
So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!)
 
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Originally Posted by Wendy
So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!)
No, just the Australians. You can tell the nationality of all drivers apparently.
 
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
No, just the Australians. You can tell the nationality of all drivers apparently.
Ah, I see

What a load of crap
 
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Originally Posted by Wendy
Ah, I see

What a load of crap
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
Yep.






Can you both clarify please this for your State.

In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?
In Vic you can do a U-turn at lights unless there is a sign that says you can't.
 
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Originally Posted by Rambi
In Vic you can do a U-turn at lights unless there is a sign that says you can't.
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I agree, it is ridiculous to think you can tell the nationality of a driver by looking at them

Originally Posted by Wendy
Ah, I see

What a load of crap
 
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Well I would have to think that it would be those who did their 'training' here.

Originally Posted by Wendy
So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!)
 


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