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Wendy Sep 8th 2011 8:42 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes (Post 9609484)
Okay, my apologies. This has changed recently. My step-daughter is on P plates and lives in SA.

On L plates she couldn't do more than 80. Now, on Ps she can do 100 but is still limited to 100 if the speed limit is 110.

This really is one area of law that needs to be covered by federal law I reckon.

Ah, it could have changed. They did change some rules about a year ago, so that could be one of them.

It was 100 when I was on P's - that was just over 2 years ago :)

coolerkingcooler Sep 9th 2011 5:37 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9609502)
Ah, it could have changed. They did change some rules about a year ago, so that could be one of them.

It was 100 when I was on P's - that was just over 2 years ago :)

and they have to do donuts!!!


Cooler

chris955 Sep 9th 2011 5:44 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 
Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.

BadgeIsBack Sep 9th 2011 6:18 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9611560)
Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.

And you call other people self-righteous...

I'd say most Australian drivers are as good as British ones, unless you are living in redneck ville - or have an axe to grind.

I mean 'can't merge' - it's not in the nation's genes - you know.
Drivers in Melbourne seem to be able to merge quite happily - at the Wellington Road intersection anyhow...

I was thinking about undetaking the other day when I was driving - they undertake because they are allowed to. If anything, this causes double the opportunity for mishap or misunderstanding - IMHO. If it was outlawed, we would have very similar conditions to the UK with regards to apparent lane discipline.

chris955 Sep 9th 2011 6:19 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 
No I didn't.


Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9611599)
And you call other people self-righteous...


Alfresco Sep 9th 2011 6:29 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9609486)
It got lost along the way in the thread MP but they were talking about u-turns at traffic lights....can't do them in qld unless signed....in normal breaks in the road you can do them unless signed that you can't.

Yep.


Originally Posted by shussel (Post 9608959)
My husband got a fine in NSW when we first arrived because we did a u-turn at traffic lights. In the UK, you can do this if it's safe to do so. In NSW, you CAN'T do a u-turn unless there is a sign telling you it's permitted.

After he got that fine we wondered what else we didn't know so looked up the driving rules and regs on the RTA website (NSW traffic authority). Each state has a brochure.

Just an observation but in Sydney there aren't many roundabouts and the few that I encounter are very dangerous as noone seems to know what to do!


Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9608973)
This highlights one of the inter-state differences. In Vic, it's the same rule as the UK, you can do a U-turn unless signed that you can't.

I know they tried to nationalise the rules in the 90s and there has been some convergence but with some of the rules you can see the cost of changing would just outweigh the minimal benefits gained.


I guess a big one to mention is that you shouldn't park against the flow of traffic. That seems to catch quite a few.


Can you both clarify please this for your State.

In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?

HelenTD Sep 9th 2011 7:22 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 9611618)
In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?

Sounds like WA matches QLD, http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafeFull.pdf:

3.14.3 ‘U’ turns
You must not make a ‘U’ turn:
  • unless the turn can be made safely and without interfering with the movement of other traffic;
  • if there is a ‘NO U TURN’ sign;
  • at traffic control signals (unless there is a ‘U TURN PERMITTED’ sign); or on a freeway.

Remember, when making a ‘U’ turn, the correct procedure is to:
  • look in your rear view mirror;
  • indicate/signal your intentions;
  • give way to all pedestrians and traffic;
  • check for following traffic by glancing over your shoulder; and
  • turn only if it is safe to do so
.

3.10 Traffic CONTROL Signals
You cannot do a ‘U’ turn at an intersection with traffic control signals unless there is a ‘U TURN PERMITTED’ sign.

Failure to give way to a pedestrian or oncoming vehicle when turning at an intersection; or to a pedestrian or other vehicle when making a U turn: fine of 3 penalty units, 3 demerit points.

Wendy Sep 9th 2011 8:36 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9611560)
Basically it would appear that most Australian drivers are not actually very good at driving, have zero comprehension of the idea of lane discipline, can't merge, drive way too close and prefer to undertake than overtake. Apart from those few things they aren't too bad.....really.

So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!) :rolleyes:

moneypenny20 Sep 9th 2011 8:54 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9611753)
So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!) :rolleyes:

No, just the Australians. You can tell the nationality of all drivers apparently.

Wendy Sep 9th 2011 8:56 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9611768)
No, just the Australians. You can tell the nationality of all drivers apparently.

Ah, I see :blink:

What a load of crap :D

moneypenny20 Sep 9th 2011 9:02 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9611773)
Ah, I see :blink:

What a load of crap :D

Uh huh!

Rambi Sep 9th 2011 9:12 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 9611618)
Yep.






Can you both clarify please this for your State.

In QLD you can't do a U-Turn at traffic lights unless a sign says you can.

Anywhere else is ok unless a sign says you can't. (plus normal rules like U-Turning across a white line etc...)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Que...r/U-turns.aspx

Does this differ from other States?

In Vic you can do a U-turn at lights unless there is a sign that says you can't. :thumbup:

Alfresco Sep 9th 2011 9:29 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9611793)
In Vic you can do a U-turn at lights unless there is a sign that says you can't. :thumbup:

Cheers! :thumbup:

chris955 Sep 9th 2011 11:09 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 
I agree, it is ridiculous to think you can tell the nationality of a driver by looking at them :blink:


Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9611773)
Ah, I see :blink:

What a load of crap :D


chris955 Sep 9th 2011 11:12 pm

Re: Driving in Australia
 
Well I would have to think that it would be those who did their 'training' here. ;)


Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 9611753)
So is that just 'Australian' people or anyone who learns here? (including me!) :rolleyes:



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