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Amazulu Mar 31st 2019 9:04 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12663620)
Well, it's not yachting from marina to marina, but it's also not sitting around the house day after day. Seems ok if you like road travel and camping.


Yes, it's obviously popular but not for me.

I do fancy travelling around North America for a few months by road - we'll probably do that a few times. I'm actually seriously contemplating doing a Phd when I retire, so kind of shows you my way of thinking when it comes to my latter years!

Shard Mar 31st 2019 9:32 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12663636)
Yes, it's obviously popular but not for me.

I do fancy travelling around North America for a few months by road - we'll probably do that a few times. I'm actually seriously contemplating doing a Phd when I retire, so kind of shows you my way of thinking when it comes to my latter years!

What would you do your PhD in? It's a good idea if your brain is up for it. I enjoy life long learning, but I wouldn't necessarily take another degree program.

spouse of scouse Mar 31st 2019 9:51 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12663610)
I love travelling and camping and want to see all of Australia but that whole Grey Nomad story just looks pretty shit to me - your life's basically over

No thanks!

Travelling, camping and seeing all of Australia is the same experience whether you're 20, 40 or 60+. 'Grey nomads' are just older (usually retired) people who now have the freedom and financial security to travel for longer stretches of time. They often keep their home and return to it either intermittently or permanently when they've finished their Australian travels. None of that precludes travel to other countries, for shorter or longer periods. Not sure how that equates to 'life over'.

Amazulu Mar 31st 2019 11:56 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12663657)
Travelling, camping and seeing all of Australia is the same experience whether you're 20, 40 or 60+. 'Grey nomads' are just older (usually retired) people who now have the freedom and financial security to travel for longer stretches of time. They often keep their home and return to it either intermittently or permanently when they've finished their Australian travels. None of that precludes travel to other countries, for shorter or longer periods. Not sure how that equates to 'life over'.

Each to their own

For me it would be

Amazulu Mar 31st 2019 12:02 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12663648)
What would you do your PhD in? It's a good idea if your brain is up for it. I enjoy life long learning, but I wouldn't necessarily take another degree program.

Something around economics or history of economics. I'm fascinated by the subject and studying it at a high level has completely changed my way of thinking. I want to know more

I'm also keen to do another Masters - at the LSE this time, but the acceptance rate is around 10%, so I'd have to up my game to get in

spouse of scouse Mar 31st 2019 12:21 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12663684)
Each to their own

For me it would be

I agree with you entirely, to each their own. Was just puzzled why you feel that a (for example) 6 month trip around Oz when you're older equates to your life being over. My older sister did a caravan trip like that a few years ago, didn't get quite all the way around but travelled to a range of diverse places in Oz. Since she's been back, she's spent 5 months travelling around the UK and Europe and has been on several shorter trips of 6 weeks - 2 months each to Crete, Hungary, Canada, New Zealand and Scotland. She's no sooner back and she's off again, she has a great life!

Although she has sufficient income to fund her travels, she owns a property in Mount Lawley that she sometimes rents out on a short term/holiday accommodation basis which is a great topper-upper of the retirement funds.

carcajou Mar 31st 2019 12:47 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 
As others noted it is doable and is a "thing" here especially for retirees. As Troubadour noted the road is not pure coastal it does go inland quite a bit in parts. The road is Highway 1. It's something like 15,000 kms long.

Shard Mar 31st 2019 1:01 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12663687)
Something around economics or history of economics. I'm fascinated by the subject and studying it at a high level has completely changed my way of thinking. I want to know more

I'm also keen to do another Masters - at the LSE this time, but the acceptance rate is around 10%, so I'd have to up my game to get in

It's a fascinating field but probably better to study when you're younger and can apply it to current events and/or work. Not sure how open LSE would be to retirees joining their PhD program, guessing not very.

Amazulu Mar 31st 2019 1:25 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12663705)
It's a fascinating field but probably better to study when you're younger and can apply it to current events and/or work. Not sure how open LSE would be to retirees joining their PhD program, guessing not very.

It would be a Masters at LSE. A PhD there be impossible

I don't care if I don't use it for work - not one iota, it's about doing it for me and getting knowledge into my noggin!

Gordon Barlow Mar 31st 2019 6:19 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 
You've certainly got to love driving, anyone who's intending to travel long distances in Oz. There's not always much to see along the way. Years ago, my wife and I were part of a ten-car two-week safari from Perth up to Port Hedland on the inland route via Meekatharra and Marble Bar, and back along the coast road via Carnavon and Geraldton. A few sites worth seeing, but not many. We were glad to have done the trip, for the experience. We had come to Perth from Melbourne on the train - much more comfortable, and just as interesting! She had been to Alice Springs and Ayer's Rock in her youth, by train and bus; and I'd driven with a friend from Brisbane down to northern Victoria - again, interesting, but heavy work behind the wheel.

Nothing to compare with travelling in Europe, using the same amount of time and energy. There (from London to Ankara, and back via Prague and Moscow) we saw more wonderful things each day than we saw in any two weeks in Oz. My advice to oldies is to give Australia a miss, especially if you want to drive everywhere.

the troubadour Apr 1st 2019 1:11 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 
Indeed travelling around OZ is a long hard slog, in my book with a minimum return for cost and time involved. Very glad to have done, what have done, but frankly there are far more interesting places to while away one's time in retirement. Probably better in various aspects to do when younger and become part of the back packer party scene.
Still fine for an escape when older for a shorter duration, but you would have to be keen to spend many months 'on the road ' , for that basically is what it is.
Not sure why anyone would bother with a PHD in the age either. All that work requiring submitting requiring time and discipline. Far better be wilder. . This time of life is one where personal freedom is at a maximum best use it. Providing health allows, one has a final stab at living and freedom before frailty sets in and chances of living a life doing what ever evaporate. Plenty of adventures out in our world other than a somewhat mundane transverse of the roads of Australia or indeed returning to school. Lots of opportunity out there to undertake new adventures and learn things never contemplated before and go out with a blast in a mountain retreat in Tibet rather than a nursing home in Bendigo.

the troubadour Apr 1st 2019 1:21 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 12663844)
You've certainly got to love driving, anyone who's intending to travel long distances in Oz. There's not always much to see along the way. Years ago, my wife and I were part of a ten-car two-week safari from Perth up to Port Hedland on the inland route via Meekatharra and Marble Bar, and back along the coast road via Carnavon and Geraldton. A few sites worth seeing, but not many. We were glad to have done the trip, for the experience. We had come to Perth from Melbourne on the train - much more comfortable, and just as interesting! She had been to Alice Springs and Ayer's Rock in her youth, by train and bus; and I'd driven with a friend from Brisbane down to northern Victoria - again, interesting, but heavy work behind the wheel.

Nothing to compare with travelling in Europe, using the same amount of time and energy. There (from London to Ankara, and back via Prague and Moscow) we saw more wonderful things each day than we saw in any two weeks in Oz. My advice to oldies is to give Australia a miss, especially if you want to drive everywhere.

My thoughts pretty much. Nice to have done it, but wouldn't bother again as hardly on the list of most memorable places seen or travel feats achieved. It doesn't compare at all with Europe or indeed the other countries.
More Aussie ageing are indeed giving the 'grey nomad' thing a mess. Cruising, seems to occupy the time of many, but hardly necessary adds to their worldliness, but have met a few interesting retired Aussie couples travelling in Asia. Full of beans and life. That doesn't include the hordes of retired Aussie men living in retirement in Vung Tau in Vietnam (plus other locations in Thailand)of course, who seem to drink from early morning to late night with a possible 'whore' break 'if able' and not particularly 'wholesome' characters to be around, by any stretch of the imagination.

Amazulu Apr 1st 2019 10:16 pm

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12663688)
I agree with you entirely, to each their own. Was just puzzled why you feel that a (for example) 6 month trip around Oz when you're older equates to your life being over. My older sister did a caravan trip like that a few years ago, didn't get quite all the way around but travelled to a range of diverse places in Oz. Since she's been back, she's spent 5 months travelling around the UK and Europe and has been on several shorter trips of 6 weeks - 2 months each to Crete, Hungary, Canada, New Zealand and Scotland. She's no sooner back and she's off again, she has a great life!

Although she has sufficient income to fund her travels, she owns a property in Mount Lawley that she sometimes rents out on a short term/holiday accommodation basis which is a great topper-upper of the retirement funds.

Cool

spouse of scouse Apr 2nd 2019 3:39 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12664516)
Cool

You could multi-task, keep up with your studies through LSE online while travelling through North America :thumbup:

ozzieeagle Apr 2nd 2019 10:16 am

Re: Driving around Australia
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12663657)
Travelling, camping and seeing all of Australia is the same experience whether you're 20, 40 or 60+. 'Grey nomads' are just older (usually retired) people who now have the freedom and financial security to travel for longer stretches of time. They often keep their home and return to it either intermittently or permanently when they've finished their Australian travels. None of that precludes travel to other countries, for shorter or longer periods. Not sure how that equates to 'life over'.

Quite right... We start our grey nomad apprenticeship on Friday id say.... Should be camping somewhere on the Sturt Highway close to the SA border friday night. ... Coober pedy will be our first 3 day camp... Then on further North..... Vans got the all clear.. Pick it back up tomorrow.. Pack it up over the next coupla days.


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