Dont speed in NSW!!!
May 28th 2009, 2:30 am
#31
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
My Mrs gets more than her fair share of speeding tickets - the last was for $700 and just like the OP the nice copper actually let her off a couple of K's which would otherwise have meant a ban.
I've even had to pretend I was driving once when she was pinged by a speed camera so she wouldn't lose here license. That's true love!
I've even had to pretend I was driving once when she was pinged by a speed camera so she wouldn't lose here license. That's true love!
May 28th 2009, 2:44 am
#32
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
Slight exaggeration - Louie is completely correct and I agree with him/her.
Speeding does not kill. Inapproapriate use of speed kills. Big difference. Any decent driver known the limits of themselves and their car and the conditions - and that means schools etc should be rigoursly enforced for speeding. How come I NEVER see a camera around my kids schools, yet on the open roads when people are more likely to, and where it is safe to do so, the cops are there lying in wait? Because they catch people to raise cash where they can and because they know they can - two cops raking in $10,000 a day is far better than two cops, by a school, raking in $1000 a day. Figures are made up but the gist is there.
143 in an 80 may be excessive but if it was an open road, middle of the night, no cars, dry, clear etc etc it was perfectly safe.
Likewise, the argument of speed limits, while needed of course, basically says that at 80 kph you'll not kill anyone and are safe - but hit 81 and you deserve to die you evil person as you are speeding.
Common sense needs to be applied.
As some of the recent visitors here stated 'wipe off 5, add on 1' (one being the middle finger)... like the UK, a load of nonsense spouted to justify the continually increasing speeding fines...
Speeding does not kill. Inapproapriate use of speed kills. Big difference. Any decent driver known the limits of themselves and their car and the conditions - and that means schools etc should be rigoursly enforced for speeding. How come I NEVER see a camera around my kids schools, yet on the open roads when people are more likely to, and where it is safe to do so, the cops are there lying in wait? Because they catch people to raise cash where they can and because they know they can - two cops raking in $10,000 a day is far better than two cops, by a school, raking in $1000 a day. Figures are made up but the gist is there.
143 in an 80 may be excessive but if it was an open road, middle of the night, no cars, dry, clear etc etc it was perfectly safe.
Likewise, the argument of speed limits, while needed of course, basically says that at 80 kph you'll not kill anyone and are safe - but hit 81 and you deserve to die you evil person as you are speeding.
Common sense needs to be applied.
As some of the recent visitors here stated 'wipe off 5, add on 1' (one being the middle finger)... like the UK, a load of nonsense spouted to justify the continually increasing speeding fines...
Common sense does need to be applied I would agree. Common sense tells me that if I choose to willingly and knowingly exceed a speed limit I deserve everything I get and then some.
May 28th 2009, 3:16 am
#33
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
Maybe the continued increase in speeding fines is directly proportionate to idiots who still think that 143kph in an 80 limit is safe because "the roads are clear, no cars, dry" etc...
Common sense does need to be applied I would agree. Common sense tells me that if I choose to willingly and knowingly exceed a speed limit I deserve everything I get and then some.
Common sense does need to be applied I would agree. Common sense tells me that if I choose to willingly and knowingly exceed a speed limit I deserve everything I get and then some.
Its almost as though some people want to re-write the driving laws to suit themselves and it beggars belief.
I have heard the old saying from some of my colleagues 'Oh the speed limits are crap/unsafe, I can control speed, Oh whats a cow/sheep/person doing in that country lane' The usual shit that gets spouted.
The laws are there for a reason and as you say, if people choose to pick their own speed that they like instead of abiding by the law then they cannot complain about the penalty if they are caught.
Or perhaps they have their own 'special powers' to control speed, ones that dont need to take into consideration stopping distances.
I wonder how many of those people that believe that speeding is acceptable, would change their opinion if one day perhaps their son/daughter/husband/wife was walking down one of those 'quiet country roads' and was taken out by someone with his own rules for speeding.
Or perhaps they might, just might be of the belief that 'they shouldnt have been there in the first place'.
Somehow I doubt it.
May 28th 2009, 3:36 am
#34
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
The current speed limits are a relic of the days when cars had drum brakes and bubble tyres. I have no issue whatsoever with reduced speed limits in built up areas, in fact I wouldn't complain if the standard 50kph in towns was dropped further. But out on the freeway, 100kph is a ludicrously slow speed limit which takes no account of the fact that cars have changed dramatically over the last 30 years.
May 28th 2009, 6:32 am
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
The current speed limits are a relic of the days when cars had drum brakes and bubble tyres. I have no issue whatsoever with reduced speed limits in built up areas, in fact I wouldn't complain if the standard 50kph in towns was dropped further. But out on the freeway, 100kph is a ludicrously slow speed limit which takes no account of the fact that cars have changed dramatically over the last 30 years.
Barney
May 28th 2009, 7:33 am
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
Some cars might have changed over the past 30 years but there is a hell of a lot of Shite vehicles still out there that should have be shipped off to the scrap yard years ago. If the states introduced strict inspections (and I mean strict) that would enable all the rust buckets to be taken out of circulation, then prehaps the speed limits might be addressed.
Barney
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The main reason for speed limits is that most people over estimate their ability to control a car.
May 28th 2009, 7:36 am
#37
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
But it's all irrelevant. The rules is the rules and them that enforces the rules are in charge. If someone gets caught, they get fined regardless of whether the speed limit is considered outdated or if the car is top spec.
May 28th 2009, 8:48 am
#38
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
They sit in our driveway just to catch people, so sneaky 
May 28th 2009, 9:42 am
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
I would not be using that sort of inspection as proof of roadworthiness when buying a vehicle.
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May 28th 2009, 9:53 am
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
I am fuming with my WORST HALF at the moment, a few weeks ago he got a sppeding fine for about $320, (caught by police with a radar) i was angry, but paid and let it go................breathe...breathe
Tonight he comes home with a fine for $621, and a 3 month ban!!!!!! ( again police with radar, they let him off a km, otherwise it would of been over been $1600 and a 6 month ban) he was doing 124 in an 80 zone,.......believe me no excuse, i am so annoyed, the main part of his job is driving!!!!!! so now i am going to have to get our 4 year old up at god knows what time and take him to work (if they keep him on!!!!!!)
I am most angry at the speeding and that he could of killed someone and he selfishness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
argggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Please Please dont speed, for the one and only reason that it kills people, if you get a fine, then good its what u deserve, which is exactly what i said to my WORSE half!!
Tonight he comes home with a fine for $621, and a 3 month ban!!!!!! ( again police with radar, they let him off a km, otherwise it would of been over been $1600 and a 6 month ban) he was doing 124 in an 80 zone,.......believe me no excuse, i am so annoyed, the main part of his job is driving!!!!!! so now i am going to have to get our 4 year old up at god knows what time and take him to work (if they keep him on!!!!!!)
I am most angry at the speeding and that he could of killed someone and he selfishness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
argggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Please Please dont speed, for the one and only reason that it kills people, if you get a fine, then good its what u deserve, which is exactly what i said to my WORSE half!!
May 28th 2009, 9:54 am
#41
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
It's the rule in the UK. They just don't enforce it. I would suggest you pick up a copy of your state's driving rules. There's a few that can catch you out.
May 28th 2009, 10:01 am
#42
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
Pulling out when you are parking against the flow is dangerous that is why the rule was made. You cannot see from the drivers side clearly enough particularly if you have large vehicles in front and behind to pull out safely across 2 lanes of traffic.
May 28th 2009, 10:48 am
#43
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
I thought it was to make the roads look neat and uniform 
May 28th 2009, 12:15 pm
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
I stay with my vehicle when getting inspected and I can assure you that the vehicle inspections in NSW are not worth the paper they are written on. The inspector only really checks the VIN and Engine numbers. Visual check on tyres and lights and a quick brake/road test.
I would not be using that sort of inspection as proof of roadworthiness when buying a vehicle.
Barney
I would not be using that sort of inspection as proof of roadworthiness when buying a vehicle.
Barney
May 28th 2009, 12:21 pm
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Re: Dont speed in NSW!!!
Not much as a % of the total speeding fines...
04 May 2009
Figures seen by the Daily Telegraph show a total of 14.7 million speeding tickets have been handed out since 1997, raising some £840 million in the process
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...every-day.html
What about this comment...
That $20M mentioned earlier was Net after expenses, the gross figure was £112.2M
04 May 2009
Figures seen by the Daily Telegraph show a total of 14.7 million speeding tickets have been handed out since 1997, raising some £840 million in the process
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...every-day.html
What about this comment...
That $20M mentioned earlier was Net after expenses, the gross figure was £112.2M
- CDM