Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
Dec 17th 2008, 10:35 am
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
We were watching the parrots, it all happened so quickly, I do remember Rocky wetting himself though.
Talking of Rocky, he has chewed his council rego tag, so I spent $16 having a metal one engraved, which he promptly removed and buried in the garden.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
Talking of Rocky, he has chewed his council rego tag, so I spent $16 having a metal one engraved, which he promptly removed and buried in the garden.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
Happens with dogs too.
Dec 17th 2008, 10:54 am
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
It amazes me that some people (usually not dog owners) think breeds like Dobermans and Rotties are automatically bad, but fluffly, cuddly breeds wouldn't harm a fly.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.
It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle
Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
Dec 17th 2008, 11:14 am
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
It amazes me that some people (usually not dog owners) think breeds like Dobermans and Rotties are automatically bad, but fluffly, cuddly breeds wouldn't harm a fly.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.
It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle
Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
Cat bites are nasty, Ive ended up at the hospital a few times from cat bites when I worked at the vet.
My SIL let her kid pick up my cat Gordon up by his skin and Gordon hissed at her kid, as soon as I saw what happened I took the cat and put him in the bedroom.
Dec 17th 2008, 12:02 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
Right, I have reported it to the ranger, she said as I dont have his details they obviously cant do anything now but there are a few dobermans registered to the area and the complaint has officially been lodged for the record.
And for the record, she told me at this particular lake you cannot let your dog off the lead and risking the fines so your dog can have a good run is irresponsible.
She even said to me that unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that your dog will behave off the lead, she recommends caution even in the designated dog areas.
Now I wonder how many owners risk the fines in these regional parks and still call themselves good owners?
And for the record, she told me at this particular lake you cannot let your dog off the lead and risking the fines so your dog can have a good run is irresponsible.
She even said to me that unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that your dog will behave off the lead, she recommends caution even in the designated dog areas.
Now I wonder how many owners risk the fines in these regional parks and still call themselves good owners?
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Dec 17th 2008, 12:57 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
We were watching the parrots, it all happened so quickly, I do remember Rocky wetting himself though.
Talking of Rocky, he has chewed his council rego tag, so I spent $16 having a metal one engraved, which he promptly removed and buried in the garden.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
Talking of Rocky, he has chewed his council rego tag, so I spent $16 having a metal one engraved, which he promptly removed and buried in the garden.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
How on earth did Rocky get his metal one off let alone bury it!
Dec 17th 2008, 1:11 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
It amazes me that some people (usually not dog owners) think breeds like Dobermans and Rotties are automatically bad, but fluffly, cuddly breeds wouldn't harm a fly.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.
It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
Haven't lived with dogs myself since I left home many years ago but we always had quite a selection (brought up on a farm but they were definitely mollycoddled pets). My sister used to show dogs and at one stage had a Rottweiler, Airdale, Doberman and a Standard Poodle
Their tempers went in that order - the Rottie was soft as, but the poncy looking Poodle could snap at any time. She ended up having to rehome him to a place with no other dogs.It scares me to see parents let their children pet and harass strange dogs; kids don't know that just because the worst one will do is lick them to death, not all dogs will be the same. I don't even let one of my cats too close to little ones as I know she's shy and strikes out.
I do hate it when people let their dog run up to your dog as I get scared myself when a large dog of any breed comes up as I think how on earth can I do anything if it attacks my dog?
My children love dogs but I have always told them not to stroke a strange dog.We had children throwing themselves round our rotties neck with their parents there but lucky from them Ralph was gentle!I had to tell them their child should not do that!
I have a blue heeler rottie cross now and she will be smaller than a rottie and only has a rottie head so hopefully I will not get abuse.Most people look at Daisy and laugh as she looks so silly!
Dec 17th 2008, 1:49 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
God only knows how he got his metal one off, it was on two hoops and there is only one hoop left on his collar and the end of his leather collar has been chewed.
No doubt we shall find it one day....
Dec 17th 2008, 2:50 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
Yes, I always get anoyed when kids just run up and pat our dog on the head. She is fine, but lots of dogs arn't, especially when they have a hand coming from above. I have been pleasantly supprised by how many children in the last few years have asked first. It does seem to be getting more common.
My parents have a Belgian Shepard, and were at our house once in Manchester. He was in the back of the estate car, which is HIS area, where he feels safe (he loves that car). The local kids all came running up and before we could stop them one of them had jumped into the car and wrapped her arms around his neck. He gave a little growl, and then we removed said child. We had to then give that child the talk that her parents should have had, why you don't run up to strange dogs. Even if you know the dog not going into it's area without asking first,and certainly not chucking yourself on it. Could have been nasty if he was not such a nice dog.
Tiddlypom, we have had plenty of dominance scrapes, not sure why as ours doesn't look threatening to me, she doesn't go up to the other dogs, they come to her. They must be jelous of her stunning looks.
But she can live with a little snap, and it doesn't seem to bother her too much, but it is probably why she doesn't tend to go upto other dogs.
I realise that just because a dog has attacked another dog does not mean they will attack a child (and not having kids I am far more concerned that SHE would be attacked again anyway), BUT if your dog really has never attacked another dog like that and it is a huge shock to you, you would have to also assume the dog COULD snap in the same way if a child did something to upset them as you KNOW the dog is capable of it.
Anyway she is feeling much better today and is very keen now for a walk. She is letting me touch the wounds, which are healing amazingly well, so I will try a collar on her when her Daddy gets home and take her for a nice walk. She is still holding her ear at a funny angle though.
My parents have a Belgian Shepard, and were at our house once in Manchester. He was in the back of the estate car, which is HIS area, where he feels safe (he loves that car). The local kids all came running up and before we could stop them one of them had jumped into the car and wrapped her arms around his neck. He gave a little growl, and then we removed said child. We had to then give that child the talk that her parents should have had, why you don't run up to strange dogs. Even if you know the dog not going into it's area without asking first,and certainly not chucking yourself on it. Could have been nasty if he was not such a nice dog.
Tiddlypom, we have had plenty of dominance scrapes, not sure why as ours doesn't look threatening to me, she doesn't go up to the other dogs, they come to her. They must be jelous of her stunning looks.
But she can live with a little snap, and it doesn't seem to bother her too much, but it is probably why she doesn't tend to go upto other dogs. I realise that just because a dog has attacked another dog does not mean they will attack a child (and not having kids I am far more concerned that SHE would be attacked again anyway), BUT if your dog really has never attacked another dog like that and it is a huge shock to you, you would have to also assume the dog COULD snap in the same way if a child did something to upset them as you KNOW the dog is capable of it.
Anyway she is feeling much better today and is very keen now for a walk. She is letting me touch the wounds, which are healing amazingly well, so I will try a collar on her when her Daddy gets home and take her for a nice walk. She is still holding her ear at a funny angle though.
Dec 17th 2008, 3:07 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
Tiddlypom, we have had plenty of dominance scrapes, not sure why as ours doesn't look threatening to me, she doesn't go up to the other dogs, they come to her. They must be jelous of her stunning looks. But she can live with a little snap, and it doesn't seem to bother her too much, but it is probably why she doesn't tend to go upto other dogs.
But she can live with a little snap, and it doesn't seem to bother her too much, but it is probably why she doesn't tend to go upto other dogs.
She got in a full on dominance scrap with another dog the other week and really shocked me. Never saw her do that before... but as she gets older, it's like there's a rank they all seem to obey... it's weird.
, BUT if your dog really has never attacked another dog like that and it is a huge shock to you, you would have to also assume the dog COULD snap in the same way if a child did something to upset them as you KNOW the dog is capable of it.
Anyway she is feeling much better today and is very keen now for a walk. She is letting me touch the wounds, which are healing amazingly well, so I will try a collar on her when her Daddy gets home and take her for a nice walk. She is still holding her ear at a funny angle though.
Dec 17th 2008, 3:27 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
[QUOTE=TiddlyPom;7077921]Apparently most dogs hate being patted on the head. Scratching under the chin is much friendlier to the dog (apparently)
I was told(don't know if it is true) that it was quite aggressive to the dog to pat them on the head and that you should let them sniff your hand before stroking them.Also at the training classes we were told that it is rude in dog eyes to approach a dog head on,a friendly dog will approach from the side.It is odd because I have never noticed that before until we were told that and that is what Daisy will do at the dog beach!
I was told(don't know if it is true) that it was quite aggressive to the dog to pat them on the head and that you should let them sniff your hand before stroking them.Also at the training classes we were told that it is rude in dog eyes to approach a dog head on,a friendly dog will approach from the side.It is odd because I have never noticed that before until we were told that and that is what Daisy will do at the dog beach!
Dec 17th 2008, 3:29 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
I was told(don't know if it is true) that it was quite aggressive to the dog to pat them on the head and that you should let them sniff your hand before stroking them.Also at the training classes we were told that it is rude in dog eyes to approach a dog head on,a friendly dog will approach from the side.It is odd because I have never noticed that before until we were told that and that is what Daisy will do at the dog beach!
Dec 17th 2008, 3:53 pm
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Yes that's right - they really don't like it ... and dogs circle, esp when they're leaving each other after a fight, so if you get your dog after a fight, walk it in a big wide circle to dispense the agro... side on and no eye contact is your way of saying 'I'm no threat'.
Dec 18th 2008, 1:07 am
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
Talking of Rocky, he has chewed his council rego tag, so I spent $16 having a metal one engraved, which he promptly removed and buried in the garden.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
I now have to phone the ranger again, to request another tag which will be secured and taped to his collar so he cant reach it.
Em x
Dec 19th 2008, 2:02 am
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
I have read this post and did noy reply but I cannot help myself.
Human beings are unpredictable let alone dogs, the last thing a dog owner say's to you when "harmless" Fido bounds up to you is "don't worry he wont bite" as if they know ffs.
I personally do not like dogs that much although we had 2 when I was growing up and my 6 year old now wants one.I think that they should all be kept on a lead in public although there should be specific areas for dogs to be let off the lead. When I am around the lake or a park most of them are a nuisance either in the way or or running up to you and wanting to play.
Most dog owners are responsible but there are also a number who are not and they think the world revolves around their dog and everyone else should accomodate / like dogs, well we don't all like dogs so keep the bloody thing on a lead.
Sorry yes you should report it and any dog that attacks anyone or seriously harms another dog should be destroyed IMO.
Human beings are unpredictable let alone dogs, the last thing a dog owner say's to you when "harmless" Fido bounds up to you is "don't worry he wont bite" as if they know ffs.
I personally do not like dogs that much although we had 2 when I was growing up and my 6 year old now wants one.I think that they should all be kept on a lead in public although there should be specific areas for dogs to be let off the lead. When I am around the lake or a park most of them are a nuisance either in the way or or running up to you and wanting to play.
Most dog owners are responsible but there are also a number who are not and they think the world revolves around their dog and everyone else should accomodate / like dogs, well we don't all like dogs so keep the bloody thing on a lead.
Sorry yes you should report it and any dog that attacks anyone or seriously harms another dog should be destroyed IMO.
Dec 19th 2008, 12:09 pm
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Re: Dog attack, will reporting do anything?
I have read this post and did noy reply but I cannot help myself.
Human beings are unpredictable let alone dogs, the last thing a dog owner say's to you when "harmless" Fido bounds up to you is "don't worry he wont bite" as if they know ffs.
I personally do not like dogs that much although we had 2 when I was growing up and my 6 year old now wants one.I think that they should all be kept on a lead in public although there should be specific areas for dogs to be let off the lead. When I am around the lake or a park most of them are a nuisance either in the way or or running up to you and wanting to play.
Most dog owners are responsible but there are also a number who are not and they think the world revolves around their dog and everyone else should accomodate / like dogs, well we don't all like dogs so keep the bloody thing on a lead.
Sorry yes you should report it and any dog that attacks anyone or seriously harms another dog should be destroyed IMO.
Human beings are unpredictable let alone dogs, the last thing a dog owner say's to you when "harmless" Fido bounds up to you is "don't worry he wont bite" as if they know ffs.
I personally do not like dogs that much although we had 2 when I was growing up and my 6 year old now wants one.I think that they should all be kept on a lead in public although there should be specific areas for dogs to be let off the lead. When I am around the lake or a park most of them are a nuisance either in the way or or running up to you and wanting to play.
Most dog owners are responsible but there are also a number who are not and they think the world revolves around their dog and everyone else should accomodate / like dogs, well we don't all like dogs so keep the bloody thing on a lead.
Sorry yes you should report it and any dog that attacks anyone or seriously harms another dog should be destroyed IMO.
The ranger said to me last week that anyone who risks the fines to let their dog have a good run is an irresponsible owner. The rules are there for a reason.
What one dog owner perceives to be acceptable behaviour with their dog - jumping up/nipping could prove to be quite sacry to someone else.
