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DeadVim Mar 7th 2011 6:45 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Weebie (Post 9225047)
Most Australians I know wouldn't work in a government position. It some corporate circles it's a very bad stigma to haev attached to you.

Maybe that says more about the Australians you know and the 'corporate circles' than perceived problems with public service.

DeadVim Mar 7th 2011 6:47 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9225049)
Are you for real?

My OH, MIL and a wide circle of their friends are all public servants, they don't seem mightily bothered.

Given the tortuous selection process the quality of worker may even be better than the private sector ...

I reckon he's got Sheenitis.

Amazulu Mar 7th 2011 6:51 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9225056)
I reckon he's got Sheenitis.

he's winning

Amazulu Mar 7th 2011 6:52 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Weebie (Post 9225041)
No it doesn't, but in many parts of Australia it does. Anyone who's spent significant time in major centers should be aware that this isn't disputable.

But again, who cares what people think about where you live? This is a non-issue. I certainly don't want to be associated with people who think this is important.

Rambi Mar 7th 2011 7:17 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 9224740)
...

The USA started with a few hundred settlers who wanted to be free.

....

It's funny how many people think that. It was (or still is) propaganda peddled by the North to assert their hegemony over the South after the civil war.

Rambi Mar 7th 2011 7:19 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 9224917)
The inferiority complex used to be really prominent.. Best example was when you got off a plane, someone very quickly would ask, sometimes within 10 mins "What do you think of Australia" ? That happens far far less these days, When that question is no longer asked the complex will be over.
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I reckon it's a bit of an in-joke with the journos now. You can hear them laughing before the question has finished. It's funny to see the confused look on the face of the latest celebs. :D

mulben Mar 7th 2011 7:45 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Weebie (Post 9224979)

In cities like Sydney, Melbourne and Perth your location is very important and thus you won't find Australians living in nice new houses in the outer ring

Australian Population approx 22million
Numbers who can live inner city, maybe at a push 300,000

Your proposition is bizarre .

sonlymewalter Mar 7th 2011 7:52 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 
its horses for courses. Some people would hate to live in the city some love it. Some like old houses, some new. Some like to live out on acerage, some don't.

No right, no wrong. Just different:thumbup:

Kim67 Mar 7th 2011 7:59 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by mulben (Post 9225145)
Australian Population approx 22million
Numbers who can live inner city, maybe at a push 300,000

Your proposition is bizarre .

That's why the prices are so high - most desirable location.

In Weebie's defence, most of what he says is pretty accurate regarding the most sought after places for Aussies to live, and as I've said on here before, I can see why those choices wouldn't necessarily be the one's made by non born and bred aussies. That's not to say that he's correct that we look down on people that live in other places, it's just that a lot of aussies look at the place they live as an investment and try not to get emotionally attached to it. I really don't care where my mates live, but I do care where I live myself, not because of snobbery, but because living in an inner city suburb gives easy access to all the things that are important to my family.

The Public Service is traditionally a career you get into to sit on your backside and work your way up by being a bit of a lazy kiss arse type (I should know, I worked with a lot of them when I was a lowly PA in the public service for years - it's the way I liked it, nine day fortnight, flexi time, long service after seven years and pro rata after your first lot). Banking was traditionally the same, you were a Bank Johnny if you had no other choices in life. Things have changed over the years with more Graduates entering these industries, but the stigma still remains.

ozzieeagle Mar 7th 2011 11:16 pm

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 
Australias Economy will definitely be bigger than the UK's in my lifetime... so will they be insignificant then ? I"m in my 50's Fact is Aus is on the way up... and the UK... is probably stagnating at best.

Vegemite Kids Mar 8th 2011 12:41 am

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Weebie (Post 9225047)
Most Australians I know wouldn't work in a government position. In some corporate circles it's a very bad stigma to have attached to you. So I wouldn't base your view as accurate because of a few of your government colleagues think differently.


Now dont go getting too excited Weebie, but for the first time ever ............




I am actually going to agree with you :eek::D:eek:





Dont know if its all throughout Australia but its definately rampant in Perth.

sonlymewalter Mar 8th 2011 12:47 am

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by Vegemite Kids (Post 9225593)
Now dont go getting too excited Weebie, but for the first time ever ............

I am actually going to agree with you :eek::D:eek:

Dont know if its all throughout Australia but its definately rampant in Perth.

That's bazaar mate cos during times of recession its one of the sure ways of keeping a job especially with a pension, a 9 to 5 mentality, training and development and networking. Thepay is usally a lot less than the private sector but in a recession the private sector expects a pound of flesh:eek:

It's also really hard to get into government jobs too:unsure:

aussietobe Mar 8th 2011 1:02 am

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by phat-dave (Post 9220277)
ha ha ha, isn't this the truth. I'm Aussie born and bred and when I lived in Canada and US this was very much the case... never heard anything about Australia in the papers, television or radio.

All the UK papers have dedicated journalists in Australia to report on what is happening Down Under. Check out the dailymail... there was even a story about Tony Abbott's "shit happens" comment in there.

How many countries feature prominantly in other countries news? perhaps only one - the US? Or maybe China? How often do you hear about Spain or France or Thailand or Canada? I never hear much about them at all and I read Aussie, English and American online newspapers.

Vegemite Kids Mar 8th 2011 1:08 am

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9225054)
Maybe that says more about the Australians you know and the 'corporate circles' than perceived problems with public service.


(based on my experiences) ... sadly not. That attitude truly is rampant here and its not limited to aussies. I've seen it from brits and Norwegians as well.

Vegemite Kids Mar 8th 2011 1:11 am

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9225606)
That's bazaar mate cos during times of recession its one of the sure ways of keeping a job especially with a pension, a 9 to 5 mentality, training and development and networking. Thepay is usally a lot less than the private sector but in a recession the private sector expects a pound of flesh:eek:

It's also really hard to get into government jobs too:unsure:


I know. I agree. Its crazy. but I've been seeing it for the last 7 years and its not changing one iota. Even the 'oldtimers' that went through the last big bust in Perth and had no work for a year or so have this attitude.


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