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Bix Aug 3rd 2004 8:56 am

Re: Do Ozzies hate us?
 

Originally posted by kala
I was just thinking the same Bundy, He really shouldn't have married me if he hates me.

Kala
Don't worry girls - they needed HOUSEwives :D

JayDeee Aug 3rd 2004 9:13 am

Re: Do Ozzies hate us?
 

Originally posted by Bix
Don't worry girls - they needed HOUSEwives :D

OOOh you cheeky **** u, anyway I love washing up etc xxxx

Pollyana Aug 3rd 2004 9:15 am


they needed HOUSEwives
After all, they can't get the Aussie women to do the housework.....

Three men were sitting together bragging about how they had given their new wives duties.
The first man had married a woman from Albania, and bragged that he had told his wife she was going to do all the dishes and house cleaning that needed done at their house. He said that it took a couple days but on the third day he came home to a clean house and the dishes were all washed and put away.

The second man had married a woman from Korea. He bragged that he had given his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes, and the cooking. He told them that the first day he didn't see any results, but the next day it was better. By the third day, his house was clean, the dishes were done, and he had a huge dinner on the table.
The third man had married an Australian girl. He boasted that he told her that her duties were to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed, laundry washed and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything, but by the third day most of the swelling had gone down and he could see a little out of his left eye. .......

:D

kong Aug 3rd 2004 10:14 am

Re: Do Ozzies hate us?
 

Originally posted by 65 million
Hi all,

Anybody already in the workplace down-under. What does the average Aussie make of us pommies/brits moving over to their country. My work colleague reckons they hate us. I'm not so sure thats true.

What are your experiences with them good or bad?:eek:
To be honest, only a few Aussies (and Kiwis) REALLY hate us.

It is more of a morbid curiousity, due to the strong historical links between the two nations. After all a lot of Aussies can trace their familly history to Blighty, such as having living British parents/Grandparents, or know if they were decended from free or convict settlers. Our flag is still in the corner of theirs and Lizzie is head of state and on their coins.

Aussies love to compare Aus with the UK, they like to have "one up" on the POMS. Usually through sport, or by constantly asking you what you think of Australia (they are pissed off if you do not arse lick about how great it is).

I believe that the fascination is due to insecurity about the fact that we saw their country as only fit for low life prisoners and they are desperate to show what a mistake "we" made by staying in "cold shitty England".

The Aussie sense of humour involves a lot of piss taking, especially at POMS, they do not like it in return however!!

mlbonner Aug 3rd 2004 10:22 am

Re: Do Ozzies hate us?
 

Originally posted by kong
To be honest, only a few Aussies (and Kiwis) REALLY hate us.

It is more of a morbid curiousity, due to the strong historical links between the two nations. After all a lot of Aussies can trace their familly history to Blighty, such as having living British parents/Grandparents, or know if they were decended from free or convict settlers. Our flag is still in the corner of theirs and Lizzie is head of state and on their coins.

Aussies love to compare Aus with the UK, they like to have "one up" on the POMS. Usually through sport, or by constantly asking you what you think of Australia (they are pissed off if you do not arse lick about how great it is).

I believe that the fascination is due to insecurity about the fact that we saw their country as only fit for low life prisoners and they are desperate to show what a mistake "we" made by staying in "cold shitty England".

The Aussie sense of humour involves a lot of piss taking, especially at POMS, they do not like it in return however!!

From the people I know here I'd say this was true (doesnt stop me taking the p'ss though :D ;))

Badge Aug 3rd 2004 11:06 am

Re: Do Ozzies hate us?
 
Kong mate

this is great. This is what we want to see. Criticism in your own words.


Originally posted by kong
To be honest, only a few Aussies (and Kiwis) REALLY hate us.

It is more of a morbid curiousity, due to the strong historical links between the two nations. After all a lot of Aussies can trace their familly history to Blighty, such as having living British parents/Grandparents, or know if they were decended from free or convict settlers. Our flag is still in the corner of theirs and Lizzie is head of state and on their coins.

Aussies love to compare Aus with the UK, they like to have "one up" on the POMS. Usually through sport, or by constantly asking you what you think of Australia (they are pissed off if you do not arse lick about how great it is).

I believe that the fascination is due to insecurity about the fact that we saw their country as only fit for low life prisoners and they are desperate to show what a mistake "we" made by staying in "cold shitty England".

The Aussie sense of humour involves a lot of piss taking, especially at POMS, they do not like it in return however!!
I think you have it about right - in the main it is a piss take and that's about it. If you are a certain type of Pom then you will REALLY get it; otherwise the jokes will stop eventually.

I think the insecurity/cultural cringe is fading now. The convict past was a long time ago. Now its more who can win the sport!!

BM

JAJ Aug 3rd 2004 11:09 am


Originally posted by davidclifford
Under Australian law, employers have to prove that they have made every effort to find an appropriate Australian before they are allowed to employ a non-Aussie for a post. That's why there are more jobs for migrants in in-demand occupations, where appropriately-qualified or experienced nationals are difficult to find.
You may be talking about employer sponsored migration, where what you say is 'sort-of' right. Employers wishing to sponsor for PR must 'test' the labour market to prove they can't recruit locally - but a 'local' in this context could be a PR or NZ citizen just as much as an Australian citizen.

This requirement is normally waived if the job is on the Migration Occupations in Demand List (MODL).

Other than that there is absolutely *no* requirement for employers to give preference to Australian citizens over permanent residents.

The exception is the federal government, but even here PRs can be recruited on an exceptional basis. Usually with the proviso that they get citizenship as soon as eligible.



According to my wife it is true, however, that 'anti-pom' sentiments do exist and she says she's been discriminated against in occasional interviews even though she was a PR. It didn't happen often, though.
No *reputable* Australian employer will hire an Australian citizen over a PR unless there is a very good reason (eg security related work for the federal government).

However, on a personal level, the fact that a British person has taken Australian citizenship does impress the average Australian recruiter more than someone who remains just a PR.

Jeremy

Badge Aug 3rd 2004 3:00 pm


Originally posted by JAJ

However, on a personal level, the fact that a British person has taken Australian citizenship does impress the average Australian recruiter more than someone who remains just a PR.

Jeremy
Indeed, if you omit your place of birth on the CV they need never know you are a Pom until the interview (depending on if you get to actually talk to them or not).

BM

renth Aug 3rd 2004 3:05 pm


Originally posted by badgersmount
Indeed, if you omit your place of birth on the CV they need never know you are a Pom until the interview (depending on if you get to actually talk to them or not).

BM
My colleague, form Victoria laughed when I showed him this thread.

He told me he's harbouring a secret hatred of me.

JAJ Aug 3rd 2004 3:06 pm

Educational background may give the game away in a lot of cases though.

Jeremy


Originally posted by badgersmount
Indeed, if you omit your place of birth on the CV they need never know you are a Pom until the interview (depending on if you get to actually talk to them or not).

BM

Badge Aug 3rd 2004 3:12 pm


Originally posted by JAJ
Educational background may give the game away in a lot of cases though.

Jeremy
oops...
:p

as you were....as you were..

gedge Aug 3rd 2004 3:27 pm

It seems that in the IT market, every second person is a pom anyway.
Last time I was here i worked for a pom. This time the reporting line goes pom>dane>pom>pom.
Where are the aussies? In the UK probably.

joh117 Aug 3rd 2004 3:28 pm


Originally posted by 65 million
Is there any truth in the general statement that many Australians would rather give the jobs to other Australians?:confused:

I think some places are like that but luckily not all. Thankfully my employer sees me as some one with a brain that can think and run rings around some of my collegues. I am being asked to question the way things are done and make changes.

I guess it depends on each individual company.

I was told by a girl in HR for a company that the employer thinks you can't possibly know what you are doing as surely in the UK (a million miles away) they must do things differently.

I think MS Word/Excel is the same the world round if you get my drift

Jo

Peter Aug 3rd 2004 3:59 pm

Looks like I'm the only Australian that's posted here so far. My take on this? We don't care about the British until they cross our path. For the same reasons, we don't care about Tanzanians.

Suffice it to say, this would be the attitude of most people around the world.

You guys are flattering yourselves thinking us "ozzies" notice you more than they should. ;)

RichS Aug 3rd 2004 4:07 pm

No question some folk do actively dislike you for being English. So what, you'll get that anywhere.

There are some very tiresome statements that you get a bit tired of correcting all the time:

1. It isn't -5 and dark all year long in England (and no weather is not the be all and end all of what makes a country good/bad)

2. No we don't just have to pay $10 to become residents here, we are subjected to the same controls etc as anyone else - this one does cause some unrest I've noticed as there is still a preconception that we get in easier than others.

I think Aussies tend to go for the all encompassing generalisation wherever possible, and don't react too well if you correct them at any stage.


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