Dilema
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Dilema
I'd like to hear from anyone who has been in this situation or similar ...
Due to our middle son's heart condition we may only get 6 months to validate rather than the usual year and therefore we'd need to validate then return here to sell up etc.
Our dilema is this, our eldest son is currently doing is first year of the 2 year GCSE studies and we were wondering if (a) once we get back from validating should we hold fast in the UK until July 2008 so that he can take his GCSEs or (b) get over to Oz asap so that he can get into the Oz education system as soon as possible.
Has anyone else been in this situation and what did you do? Whatever your decision, do/did you feel you made the right one?
Thanks
Karen
Due to our middle son's heart condition we may only get 6 months to validate rather than the usual year and therefore we'd need to validate then return here to sell up etc.
Our dilema is this, our eldest son is currently doing is first year of the 2 year GCSE studies and we were wondering if (a) once we get back from validating should we hold fast in the UK until July 2008 so that he can take his GCSEs or (b) get over to Oz asap so that he can get into the Oz education system as soon as possible.
Has anyone else been in this situation and what did you do? Whatever your decision, do/did you feel you made the right one?
Thanks
Karen
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Re: Dilema
This may sound like a negative post but it's not.
The move is all about timing.
My cousin moved to Oz when she was 16 and she had a really really difficult time. She was too old for school, too young to work so for 6 months, whilst she waited for the school year to start (so she could go to college) she was really miserable and friendless.
It's important that you consider what the family can do when they get out there. My aunt and uncle got jobs, the younger brother started school, made lots of new friends and loved Oz from the minute he arrived. So it was only the 16 year old who felt a bit lost.
16 is a funny age to move so be careful and try to go when either the school term is not too far off or go before the GCSEs so your son will have the opportunity to go to school in Australia and do the ozzie qualifications.
The move is all about timing.
My cousin moved to Oz when she was 16 and she had a really really difficult time. She was too old for school, too young to work so for 6 months, whilst she waited for the school year to start (so she could go to college) she was really miserable and friendless.
It's important that you consider what the family can do when they get out there. My aunt and uncle got jobs, the younger brother started school, made lots of new friends and loved Oz from the minute he arrived. So it was only the 16 year old who felt a bit lost.
16 is a funny age to move so be careful and try to go when either the school term is not too far off or go before the GCSEs so your son will have the opportunity to go to school in Australia and do the ozzie qualifications.
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Another idea - Have you any idea how long you (and your son) will stay in Australia? If it is intended to be a permanent move then it might make more sense for your son to achieve Australian qualifications, whilst also making friends that may remain mates for life.
If it is only for a few years, then GCSEs might be the best thing for him.
Is there any reason to think that he would benefit from a fresh start? Is he happy in the UK?
Do whatever YOU think is best for HIM. (Speaking from personal experience, I wish my parents had given me less choice about my schooling. They were in a much better position to judge it all than I was! If I could go back and change it I would not make the same decisions again.)
If it is only for a few years, then GCSEs might be the best thing for him.
Is there any reason to think that he would benefit from a fresh start? Is he happy in the UK?
Do whatever YOU think is best for HIM. (Speaking from personal experience, I wish my parents had given me less choice about my schooling. They were in a much better position to judge it all than I was! If I could go back and change it I would not make the same decisions again.)
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Many thanks to you both for your replies
We definitely intend to make the move to Oz a permanent one but I guess you never truly know what is going to happen when you emigrate. We all know only too well how it sometimes isn't all its cracked up to be and then a return to the UK would be inevitable.
I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Kind regards
Karen
We definitely intend to make the move to Oz a permanent one but I guess you never truly know what is going to happen when you emigrate. We all know only too well how it sometimes isn't all its cracked up to be and then a return to the UK would be inevitable.
I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Kind regards
Karen
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Re: Dilema
Originally Posted by TheColebecks
Many thanks to you both for your replies
We definitely intend to make the move to Oz a permanent one but I guess you never truly know what is going to happen when you emigrate. We all know only too well how it sometimes isn't all its cracked up to be and then a return to the UK would be inevitable.
I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Kind regards
Karen
We definitely intend to make the move to Oz a permanent one but I guess you never truly know what is going to happen when you emigrate. We all know only too well how it sometimes isn't all its cracked up to be and then a return to the UK would be inevitable.
I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Kind regards
Karen
In Aus they stay at school till they are 18 so he managed to get the right school results therefore not having GCSE's was of no detriment.
In summary he managed to meet good friends at school, he learned to fit in with the cultural differences and he managed to gain good school results so not taking GCSE's was of no detriment.
Good luck
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We came out here just before our lad was able to take his GCSE's and have no regrets. He started school here in Aus at 15 1/2 and after a difficult time settling in he then made some really good Aussie mates.
In Aus they stay at school till they are 18 so he managed to get the right school results therefore not having GCSE's was of no detriment.
In summary he managed to meet good friends at school, he learned to fit in with the cultural differences and he managed to gain good school results so not taking GCSE's was of no detriment.
Good luck
In Aus they stay at school till they are 18 so he managed to get the right school results therefore not having GCSE's was of no detriment.
In summary he managed to meet good friends at school, he learned to fit in with the cultural differences and he managed to gain good school results so not taking GCSE's was of no detriment.
Good luck
I know this issue will be a personal thing for us/Sam in the end but hearing other peoples views and experiences really does help to see the big picture.
Thanks again.
Kind regards
Karen x
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I don't know how common IB is in Oz, but if there was a school there that offered it then it is probably the best internationally-recognised qualification.
The only problem with taking him to Oz for exams is that if he were to return then his quals might not be recongnised - but then plenty of Aussies come to the UK, so I don't think it's an insurmountable problem.
There would be significant advantages in taking him asap (IMO) in that he would have a chance to make some really good mates whilst at school - it would be much harder for him as an 18 year old, missing his UK mates and having no obvious way to make new friends in Oz.
The only problem with taking him to Oz for exams is that if he were to return then his quals might not be recongnised - but then plenty of Aussies come to the UK, so I don't think it's an insurmountable problem.
There would be significant advantages in taking him asap (IMO) in that he would have a chance to make some really good mates whilst at school - it would be much harder for him as an 18 year old, missing his UK mates and having no obvious way to make new friends in Oz.
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Re: Dilema
Hi Karen
Most people I know who have children this age would recommend coming over as soon as possible so the teenagers can make friends at school. My son had just started his GCSE's in Year 10 and then went straight into Year 10 again here. It has worked well for him as he has made friends easily and has adapted very well.
My friend's son was 17 years old when they emigrated. He had got good grades in his GCSE's in the UK and went straight into Year 12 here. Years 11 and 12 are the senior years here and at the end you can achieve an OP score that is required if you want to go to University. His school gave him some OP points for the GCSE's he had already achieved, so he still got a fairly good OP score (I have heard that some schools may not be happy to let a pupil just complete one year of senior school). However, the main problem with bringing older teenagers over is that this boy had a girlfriend and he has now gone back to the UK as he was missing her so much.
Hope everything works out well for you.
Kathy
Most people I know who have children this age would recommend coming over as soon as possible so the teenagers can make friends at school. My son had just started his GCSE's in Year 10 and then went straight into Year 10 again here. It has worked well for him as he has made friends easily and has adapted very well.
My friend's son was 17 years old when they emigrated. He had got good grades in his GCSE's in the UK and went straight into Year 12 here. Years 11 and 12 are the senior years here and at the end you can achieve an OP score that is required if you want to go to University. His school gave him some OP points for the GCSE's he had already achieved, so he still got a fairly good OP score (I have heard that some schools may not be happy to let a pupil just complete one year of senior school). However, the main problem with bringing older teenagers over is that this boy had a girlfriend and he has now gone back to the UK as he was missing her so much.
Hope everything works out well for you.
Kathy
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I don't know how common IB is in Oz, but if there was a school there that offered it then it is probably the best internationally-recognised qualification.
The only problem with taking him to Oz for exams is that if he were to return then his quals might not be recongnised - but then plenty of Aussies come to the UK, so I don't think it's an insurmountable problem.
There would be significant advantages in taking him asap (IMO) in that he would have a chance to make some really good mates whilst at school - it would be much harder for him as an 18 year old, missing his UK mates and having no obvious way to make new friends in Oz.
The only problem with taking him to Oz for exams is that if he were to return then his quals might not be recongnised - but then plenty of Aussies come to the UK, so I don't think it's an insurmountable problem.
There would be significant advantages in taking him asap (IMO) in that he would have a chance to make some really good mates whilst at school - it would be much harder for him as an 18 year old, missing his UK mates and having no obvious way to make new friends in Oz.
Just a thought the other way are GCSE's recognised in Oz.
Sarah
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esperanza - Can I ask what 'IB' is that you mention in your post, its not something I am familiar with.
Thanks
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It's common in Europe and is becoming more popular in the UK.
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I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Personally I think you should go with your gut instinct - You know your son better than anyone.
Our son will have been in secondary school here for one term when we plan to move but I want to get there for the beginning of the school year as I think that's the easiest time to fit in rather than when the class friendships have already formed. Good luck to you....
Personally I think you should go with your gut instinct - You know your son better than anyone.
Our son will have been in secondary school here for one term when we plan to move but I want to get there for the beginning of the school year as I think that's the easiest time to fit in rather than when the class friendships have already formed. Good luck to you....
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Re: Dilema
I am erring more to the option of getting out there asap to get everyone settled into the new way of life but if anyone has another spin on this type of issue we'd really appreciate your views.
Personally I think you should go with your gut instinct - You know your son better than anyone.
Our son will have been in secondary school here for one term when we plan to move but I want to get there for the beginning of the school year as I think that's the easiest time to fit in rather than when the class friendships have already formed. Good luck to you....
Personally I think you should go with your gut instinct - You know your son better than anyone.
Our son will have been in secondary school here for one term when we plan to move but I want to get there for the beginning of the school year as I think that's the easiest time to fit in rather than when the class friendships have already formed. Good luck to you....
We'd like to get out there for the start of the school year too for the same reason as yourselves, try and make the transition as smooth as possible for the boys.
Good luck
Karen
p.s. we're only about 30 mins from Northampton
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p.s. we're only about 30 mins from Northampton [/QUOTE]
Whereabouts are you? We are on the A508 from Stony Stratford to Northampton.
When you planning on leaving this happy land?
Whereabouts are you? We are on the A508 from Stony Stratford to Northampton.
When you planning on leaving this happy land?