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paulry Mar 29th 2009 1:58 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7433415)
Its a discussion that happens every few months - a subject dear to the hearts of many of us. Hang around a bit longer and you'll see it all over again soon.

It reminds me of a family reunion :D

Pollyana Mar 29th 2009 2:22 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 7433430)
It reminds me of a family reunion :D

Tis a bit isn't it - we all know the points on both sides, and we all know which posters will turn up :D

paulry Mar 29th 2009 2:29 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7433457)
Tis a bit isn't it - we all know the points on both sides, and we all know which posters will turn up :D

Yeah, and remember to serve them with plastic cups and paper plates :p

Amazulu Mar 29th 2009 2:35 pm

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The last person I expected to support DLS but there you go. Just goes to show that the rejection of DLS is not a foregone conclusion:

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...2-2761,00.html

framac67 Mar 29th 2009 3:04 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7433415)
Its a discussion that happens every few months - a subject dear to the hearts of many of us. Hang around a bit longer and you'll see it all over again soon.
Are you in Aus yet? If you come to Qld and suddenly find yourself with it pitch dark by 7.30 every night of ywear you might start to understand.

7.30 Polly.:confused: Try 6.30 in North Queensland and I'm still buggered why they don't want it.:confused:

ABCDiamond Mar 29th 2009 3:20 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by framac67 (Post 7433510)
7.30 Polly.:confused: Try 6.30 in North Queensland and I'm still buggered why they don't want it.:confused:

Probably because it wouldn't get light till nearer 7am in the morning.

eg:
Cairns: Longest day 22 Dec 2008 -
- Sunrise 5:42 AM - Sunset 6:50 PM
If you had DLS it would become
- Sunrise 6:42 AM - Sunset 7:50 PM

and Brisbane would change from:
- Sunrise 4:50 AM - Sunset 6:43 PM
to
- Sunrise 5:50 AM - Sunset 7:43 PM

You can see that the people in Brisbane would not be overely affected by the lost hour (of daylight) in the morning, but they would further north.

What some people forget, is that it is the Morning Daylight that many people are concerned about, when considering DLS.

I do however know some people that would actually be OK with DLS, but will vote against it, purely on the grounds that some others have insulted them for not wanting to change from being a morning person to an evening person.

moneypenny20 Mar 29th 2009 3:35 pm

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I haven't had to get up in the dark since leaving the UK and would hate it. British winters used to depress the hell out of me and even knowing the sun will be up and out all day, still wouldn't make up for opening the curtains and seeing only dark.

ozhappy981 Mar 29th 2009 3:35 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by nessyp (Post 7428386)
Best excuse I heard for not having daylight savings was that it faded their curtains and their kids were getting fat cos they were eating more, I ask you :rofl: :)

The best excuses I have heard were:

1. The lobsters get confused by daylight savings time. (Lobster fishing is allowed for one hour very early in the morning and how will the lobsters know to set their rolexes forward by an hour in spring? There is a great cartoon here, but I can't draw.

2. From a solar electricity farmer (you know: those with lots and lots of huge solar panels on their land, selling the electricity to Synergy): DST is costing me money, because I lose an hour of sunlight in the mornings while we have DST. (Because the clocks go forward in spring and it looks like you lose an hour ... but there are of course the same number of hours of sunlight in the day ...)

I think both of the above are priceless. Both were from the letters page in "The West Australian".

Pollyana Mar 29th 2009 7:19 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by framac67 (Post 7433510)
7.30 Polly.:confused: Try 6.30 in North Queensland and I'm still buggered why they don't want it.:confused:

I was going on best case in Brisbane, I have to admit :o

Originally Posted by ozhappy981 (Post 7433555)
The best excuses I have heard were:

1. The lobsters get confused by daylight savings time. (Lobster fishing is allowed for one hour very early in the morning and how will the lobsters know to set their rolexes forward by an hour in spring? There is a great cartoon here, but I can't draw.

2. From a solar electricity farmer (you know: those with lots and lots of huge solar panels on their land, selling the electricity to Synergy): DST is costing me money, because I lose an hour of sunlight in the mornings while we have DST. (Because the clocks go forward in spring and it looks like you lose an hour ... but there are of course the same number of hours of sunlight in the day ...)

I think both of the above are priceless. Both were from the letters page in "The West Australian".

Hadn't heard the one about solar panels, but I remember reading the lobster one. Wasn't that around the same time hat someone in WA objected on the grounds that "an hours extra daylight gives the locusts extra time to breed"? :eek:

bcworld Mar 29th 2009 8:27 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7433537)
Probably because it wouldn't get light till nearer 7am in the morning.

eg:
Cairns: Longest day 22 Dec 2008 -
- Sunrise 5:42 AM - Sunset 6:50 PM
If you had DLS it would become
- Sunrise 6:42 AM - Sunset 7:50 PM

and Brisbane would change from:
- Sunrise 4:50 AM - Sunset 6:43 PM
to
- Sunrise 5:50 AM - Sunset 7:43 PM

You can see that the people in Brisbane would not be overely affected by the lost hour (of daylight) in the morning, but they would further north.

Sunrise tomorrow in Melbourne is at 0733, presumably it is at a similar time in the rural areas of Victoria north of Melbourne where there are farmers etc - one wonders how people cope!?? ;) :p

ABCDiamond Mar 29th 2009 9:19 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 7434193)
one wonders how people cope!?? ;) :p

They way they always do, and the way they are used to it... and that is the point "the way they are used to it".

That is why migrants from the UK have a harder time changing, and would rather the local system change to suit them.

bcworld Mar 29th 2009 9:34 pm

Re: Daylight saving in WA
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7434303)
That is why migrants from the UK have a harder time changing, and would rather the local system change to suit them.

Well clearly some do, some don't - this thread is a point in case. And the same goes for Aussie interstate migrants, and also those Aussies living in the state they were born in.

robo43 Mar 30th 2009 12:14 am

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I work 12 hr shifts 6am - 6pm go to work in the dark come home in the dark if it wasnt for dls this would stretch into 9 months of the year. who's worried about what time it gets light when your at work.again at least with dls can get home have tea and then get out down beach to walk the dog.Also referendums dont work not democratic.unless you revisit the question every year

twhurl Mar 30th 2009 1:57 am

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referendums are a complete waste of time. Cater to the lowest common denominator.

Three Legs Mar 30th 2009 2:04 am

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Oh ... don't get me started.


Originally Posted by perksy (Post 7427981)
Am I right in thinking it ends tonight?



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