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marvinc Aug 31st 2006 2:13 am

Daylight hours
 
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D

bobbyftm Aug 31st 2006 8:10 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D

Found this website for queensland,hope it doesn't dampen your spirits !!!!
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...nomy.html?n=47
good luck with your choice bobby

shiels Aug 31st 2006 8:19 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D

We were on the Gold Coast a few weeks ago and it got dark there around 6pm!!!!!! Don't think it's much later in the summertime...... C x

jad n rich Aug 31st 2006 8:29 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D


Best you would get is melbourne just after 8.30 in summer. But then you dont get the nice winters say qld would get when the temps are more what people are looking for, winter 20 - 25. Victorias one of the states with a bit of a fly problem tho (no where near as bad a adelaide or perth) but still bad enough to not really want to sit outside most evenings when its hot anyway. Swarms of flies chasing your mouth, ears, eyes, food does not exactly replicate a UK summer evening.

Think the reason the hotter states dont have daylight saving is just that, too hot, aussies say by late afternoon youve had enough heat, let it get dark, in summer thats around 7 pm, cant quite fathom that tho, because in summer evenings often stay in the high 20's anyway, I suppose that is cool compare to daytime but its still sticky.


Of course you have the bonus tho, its light at 4.30 am in summer :eek: nice for the family especially if you have a couple of hyper tweenies who get up with sunbreak :D

annqldau Aug 31st 2006 8:35 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D

In the summer in Brisbane area it was still light enough to sit out about 8.30ish then quite a quick dusk happens a lot quicker than UK.

Just checked the link and def think they are setting it early as our child was out playing till about 8pm in the street in Dec/Jan.

jad n rich Aug 31st 2006 8:38 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by annqldau
In the summer in Brisbane area it was still light enough to sit out about 8.30ish then quite a quick dusk happens a lot quicker than UK.

Just checked the link and def think they are setting it early as our child was out playing till about 8pm in the street in Dec/Jan.


:confused: No daylight saving in brisbane, latest sunset is just before 7 but in peak summer its still light about 7.10

Southgate Aug 31st 2006 8:39 am

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I just wonder if you would ever get used to the fact that it would be dark, or nearly dark, when you get home from work every day. When do people mow the lawn, in the dark or at the crack of dawn ??

We're looking to move to Brisbane and this could be a worry.

jad n rich Aug 31st 2006 8:42 am

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Originally Posted by Southgate
I just wonder if you would ever get used to the fact that it would be dark, or nearly dark, when you get home from work every day. When do people mow the lawn, in the dark or at the crack of dawn ??

We're looking to move to Brisbane and this could be a worry.


You got it :D usually on sundays :mad: Not a lot of sleeping in here, unlesss you wear earmuffs :D

bobbyftm Aug 31st 2006 8:45 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by Southgate
I just wonder if you would ever get used to the fact that it would be dark, or nearly dark, when you get home from work every day. When do people mow the lawn, in the dark or at the crack of dawn ??

We're looking to move to Brisbane and this could be a worry.

Problem about mowing the grass will be partially solved if there's a water shortage. little water = little grass growth = little mowing !!! Hoorah :D

Southgate Aug 31st 2006 8:50 am

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Originally Posted by bobbyftm
Problem about mowing the grass will be partially solved if there's a water shortage. little water = little grass growth = little mowing !!! Hoorah :D

Yeah, I suppose. But I read posts of people going to the beach after work. This is obviously not possible in Queensland for the best part of the year.

Ozzidoc Aug 31st 2006 10:01 am

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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Victorias one of the states with a bit of a fly problem tho (no where near as bad a adelaide or perth) but still bad enough to not really want to sit outside most evenings when its hot anyway. Swarms of flies chasing your mouth, ears, eyes, food does not exactly replicate a UK summer evening.

Think the reason the hotter states dont have daylight saving is just that, too hot, aussies say by late afternoon youve had enough heat, let it get dark, in summer thats around 7 pm, cant quite fathom that tho, because in summer evenings often stay in the high 20's anyway, I suppose that is cool compare to daytime but its still sticky.

Flies aren't a problem everywhere in Vic. In Geelong, in the evening, you just had to be aware of mozzies.

Dusk - can be about 8.30 in summer, final sunset at 9pm (Geelong).

Tasmania would have even longer summer days, but shorter days in winter.

Nicstids Aug 31st 2006 10:07 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D

We haven't lived through a summer here yet (QLD) but what I have really liked is about the winter is that it has always been light (and usually sunny :D ) when I get up in the mornings at 6.30am for work. When I get home (about 5.30) it is only just getting dark. There is none of the getting up in the dark, getting home in the dark that you had in the winter in the UK :)

Wol Aug 31st 2006 10:23 am

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Just bear in mind that the further South you go - in summer - the longer the daylight hours are. So at the South pole it's daylight all round the clock. It follows that nearer the equator in round terms it gets more like 12 -12 hrs.

JAJ Aug 31st 2006 10:29 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by Southgate
I just wonder if you would ever get used to the fact that it would be dark, or nearly dark, when you get home from work every day. When do people mow the lawn, in the dark or at the crack of dawn ??

We're looking to move to Brisbane and this could be a worry.

You can always create your own "daylight saving" by getting up an hour earlier in the morning.

sassie Aug 31st 2006 10:30 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D


Tasmania is fairly similiar to the Uk. They have what is called "twilight" and during Summer, it's daylight up until about 9.30 ish, maybe a bit later.

ianandhelena Aug 31st 2006 10:30 am

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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Best you would get is melbourne just after 8.30 in summer.

better still is tassie, sunset at 8.50-8.55 in summer.

JAJ Aug 31st 2006 10:30 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

http://www.ga.gov.au/geodesy/astro/ gives you daylight hours.
You will then need to make your own adjustment for daylight saving time where it applies.

moneypenny20 Aug 31st 2006 11:18 am

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Can't say I've noticed it being a problem. Yes it gets dark early but life still goes on because it's still warm/hot. My girls have an hour and a half swimming lesson at 5:30 in an outside pool all year round - they just have stadium type lighting on the pool.

It's amazing how quickly you get used to the way of life.

BadgeIsBack Aug 31st 2006 12:42 pm

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich
Best you would get is melbourne just after 8.30 in summer. But then you dont get the nice winters say qld would get when the temps are more what people are looking for, winter 20 - 25. Victorias one of the states with a bit of a fly problem tho (no where near as bad a adelaide or perth) but still bad enough to not really want to sit outside most evenings when its hot anyway. Swarms of flies chasing your mouth, ears, eyes, food does not exactly replicate a UK summer evening.

Think the reason the hotter states dont have daylight saving is just that, too hot, aussies say by late afternoon youve had enough heat, let it get dark, in summer thats around 7 pm, cant quite fathom that tho, because in summer evenings often stay in the high 20's anyway, I suppose that is cool compare to daytime but its still sticky.


Of course you have the bonus tho, its light at 4.30 am in summer :eek: nice for the family especially if you have a couple of hyper tweenies who get up with sunbreak :D

Melbourne gets dark at 8.45 around the summer solstice. That is sunset times remember, you still get a bit more light for more.

Almost reason enough to make it a destination - lots of Poms complain about lack of light. I've realised I don't care how hot it is - warm enough, and light is what I enjoy the most. I'd trade 45 minutes off a British June day for a Melbourne summer and winter.

Flies or mossies not enough to warrant staying indoors on a summer's evening.
I don't know anyone who would stay inside all evening due to it.

jad n rich Aug 31st 2006 12:51 pm

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by Southgate
Yeah, I suppose. But I read posts of people going to the beach after work. This is obviously not possible in Queensland for the best part of the year.


Depends what you do, remember we all only work 2 hours a day in aus :D

You often have a dip after work, however evenings shark feeding time, wouldnt catch me swimming anywhere near dark anyway. We go in the morning many people get up and surf before work even if they start at 7 am. Remember its light just after 4 am in summer.

Pollyana Aug 31st 2006 2:26 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Depends what you do, remember we all only work 2 hours a day in aus :D

You often have a dip after work, however evenings shark feeding time, wouldnt catch me swimming anywhere near dark anyway. We go in the morning many people get up and surf before work even if they start at 7 am. Remember its light just after 4 am in summer.

Just as us night owls are going to bed :)

chels Aug 31st 2006 3:25 pm

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When I was back in England in June, I was constantly surprised by the amount of light in the evening. On a regular basis, I would look at my watch thinking it was about 5 or 6 pm (going by the light levels and my experience in Australia) and instead would find it was more like 9 pm!

It was lovely to have that extra light, but I wouldn't go back for that if it meant putting up with long, dark, cold winters :D

annqldau Sep 4th 2006 12:12 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich
:confused: No daylight saving in brisbane, latest sunset is just before 7 but in peak summer its still light about 7.10

I don't class it as dark until I can't see the sun so if it's still above the horizon to me it's still light. My son was def out playing still at seven last year at peak of summer.

mindblower Sep 4th 2006 5:51 am

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by marvinc
Hi, could anyone tell me what parts of Oz have light evenings. I read somewhere that some parts go dark very quickly from about 6pm.

At the moment in the UK it's nice light evenings but I am just loathing the 4pm dark afternoons starting :( and want to pick somewhere that can be enjoyed in the evening as well :D


Its one negative to moving isnt it.


Dave

ridds Sep 4th 2006 6:07 am

Re: Daylight hours
 
I'm going to miss the long UK twilight, but think that actually having weather warm enough to enjoy evenings outside (even if it is darker) is worth it.

When I lived on the GC I would go swimming after work (up to about 7pm).

marvinc Sep 4th 2006 7:54 am

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Thanks for all answers, I love the long light evenings in June especially but it'll only be a month or so now and then we are back to dark morning and dark afternoons so I know where I'd rather be (visa pending of course).

:rolleyes:

Crazy Diamond Sep 4th 2006 8:03 am

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Personally I love sitting out on long hot summer UK evenings until really late with all the garden lights and lanterns on.........................................

Unfortunately there isn't that many of those! :D

I'd love the thought of hot balmy evenings with the garden lights and lanterns on by about 7 or 8ish , means I can go to bed earlier! ;) :D

I'm always up at the crack of dawn anyway so I think Brisbane will suit me just fine. :)

jad n rich Sep 4th 2006 9:18 am

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Well 4 days into spring and 5 am this morning impossible to sleep as birds are so loud :eek: because its getting light. Another few weeks and that will be happening at 4 am. Probably the most irritating aspect of life in australia.


Dont think we will get daylight saving tho, further to the silly reasons aussies have against it like extra fading of the curtains :rolleyes: , one woman wrote into the paper saying it will cause road accidents :confused: another thinks we will use more water :D

Too right some days I 'dont get it" :D

JAJ Sep 4th 2006 10:26 am

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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Well 4 days into spring and 5 am this morning impossible to sleep as birds are so loud :eek: because its getting light. Another few weeks and that will be happening at 4 am. Probably the most irritating aspect of life in australia.

Some people just get up earlier to create their own "daylight saving". Have you talked to your employer about starting and finishing earlier in summer?



Dont think we will get daylight saving tho, further to the silly reasons aussies have against it
I thought it was mainly Queenslanders rather than Australians?

Hutch Sep 4th 2006 11:43 am

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I used to get up at about 8:00am look outside and wonder where the hell everyone was. Then one morning I went surfing at 6:00am and there everyone was - out power-walking, taking the pooch for a walk, walking into town, mowing the lawn. Got to the beach and there was about 80 people in the surf - most I'd seen prior to that had been 20 or so. So I just started changing my hours - going to bed a bit earlier and up a bit earlier. We have daylight savings here in NSW (29th of October is changeover day this year) but even then I can't say an extra hour or so's daylight in the middle of summer is of any great interest to me. Last summer we sat out every evening with a glass of something cool and it was great - didn't much like the Christmas Bugs much, but all the flies etc are easily dealt with by those zapping lights and a couple of citronella candles. :)

rugbymatt Sep 4th 2006 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by Hutch
I used to get up at about 8:00am look outside and wonder where the hell everyone was. Then one morning I went surfing at 6:00am and there everyone was - out power-walking, taking the pooch for a walk, walking into town, mowing the lawn. Got to the beach and there was about 80 people in the surf - most I'd seen prior to that had been 20 or so. So I just started changing my hours - going to bed a bit earlier and up a bit earlier. We have daylight savings here in NSW (29th of October is changeover day this year) but even then I can't say an extra hour or so's daylight in the middle of summer is of any great interest to me. Last summer we sat out every evening with a glass of something cool and it was great - didn't much like the Christmas Bugs much, but all the flies etc are easily dealt with by those zapping lights and a couple of citronella candles. :)


I love the way your always so practical hutch!

MartinLuther Sep 4th 2006 12:00 pm

Re: Daylight hours
 

Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
Melbourne gets dark at 8.45 around the summer solstice. That is sunset times remember, you still get a bit more light for more.

Almost reason enough to make it a destination - lots of Poms complain about lack of light. I've realised I don't care how hot it is - warm enough, and light is what I enjoy the most. I'd trade 45 minutes off a British June day for a Melbourne summer and winter.

Flies or mossies not enough to warrant staying indoors on a summer's evening.
I don't know anyone who would stay inside all evening due to it.

Got to agree with you. The extra 45 mins I used to get in London weren't worth it because it was still too cold to stay out on a June evening without wrapping up. By the time it had warmed up in July and August the 45 minutes were gone.

Going inside for flies and mozzies is for wimps. It's also not as bad as the banana benders would like people to believe. ;)

:)


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