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Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 10:45 am

Day Light Saving Perth
 
Now that DLS is going to be trialled again in Perth for the next 3 years starting in December, what am I going to do about my fading curtains, kids that wont sleep, cows which milk will go off...........

Scossie Oct 24th 2006 11:00 am

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Now that DLS is going to be trialled again in Perth for the next 3 years starting in December, what am I going to do about my fading curtains, kids that wont sleep, cows which milk will go off...........

And we'll get an extra hours drinking time before the fireworks on Australia Day!:beer:

Can't start them at 8 o'clock now. Nobody will see them!!!

DebraH Oct 24th 2006 11:03 am

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I only caught part of this on the news yesterday - is there going to be a trial? and I heard something about the 1st dec. can't get the local tv news as our aerial still isn't sorted :D

Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by Scossie
And we'll get an extra hours drinking time before the fireworks on Australia Day!:beer:

Can't start them at 8 o'clock now. Nobody will see them!!!

Wont see them at 9 either :D

Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by DebraH
I only caught part of this on the news yesterday - is there going to be a trial? and I heard something about the 1st dec. can't get the local tv news as our aerial still isn't sorted :D


Yes the trial will be for 3 years and start beginning of December this year.

Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 11:29 am

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We had fixtured a Day/Night game this season for our cricket on January 6th. Now with DLS in i think it will be a Day/Day game

MartinLuther Oct 24th 2006 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Yes the trial will be for 3 years and start beginning of December this year.

Is it worth it for 1 month of the year :D

moneypenny20 Oct 24th 2006 11:42 am

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Apparently our dear Premier over here has said that we definitely won't be getting it, not because of the cows or the chickens, not even because god forbid our curtains and furniture will fade but because we will all get more skin cancer from having one more hour of sunshine :rolleyes:

Amazulu Oct 24th 2006 11:48 am

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Originally Posted by moneypen20
Apparently our dear Premier over here has said that we definitely won't be getting it, not because of the cows or the chickens, not even because god forbid our curtains and furniture will fade but because we will all get more skin cancer from having one more hour of sunshine :rolleyes:

I still can't believe a man in his position has come out with this. Scary.
I'm glad it's happening in WA, but why the need for a 3 year trial?. Seems there is an obsession with referendums here. We elect government to make decisions on our behalf, why do we need a referendum. Just get on with it.
Already Farmers are complaining. If DLS is such a problem, how the hell have farmers in NSW, Vic & S. Australia managed for all these years?

MartinLuther Oct 24th 2006 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu
I still can't believe a man in his position has come out with this. Scary.
I'm glad it's happening in WA, but why the need for a 3 year trial?. Seems there is an obsession with referendums here. We elect government to make decisions on our behalf, why do we need a referendum. Just get on with it.
Already Farmers are complaining. If DLS is such a problem, how the hell have farmers in NSW, Vic & S. Australia managed for all these years?

I always find the objection from farmers strange. Surely they set their own working hours so for 99% of the stuff they do it shouldn't matter whether DLS is in or not.

:)

NickyC Oct 24th 2006 12:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu
I still can't believe a man in his position has come out with this. Scary.

It's not such a daft a thing to say. If everyone in QLD sticks to their normal waking/sleeping hours then they WILL get an extra hour of daylight during their waking hours (which is the whole point of doing it) and they COULD get more skin cancer.

It's only the people who currently get up at 4.30am (or whenever the sun rises) that wouldn't be affected by any change.

Amazulu Oct 24th 2006 12:28 pm

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Originally Posted by nickyc
It's not such a daft a thing to say. If everyone in QLD sticks to their normal waking/sleeping hours then they WILL get an extra hour of daylight during their waking hours (which is the whole point of doing it) and they COULD get more skin cancer.

It's only the people who currently get up at 4.30am (or whenever the sun rises) that wouldn't be affected by any change.

The problem with sun/skin cancer is at it's worst during the middle of the day. An extra hour of sunshine at the end of the day is not going to be a problem. So it is a daft thing to say.

nightnurse2 Oct 24th 2006 12:33 pm

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Will we be turning the clocks forward then in December?
Does anyone have the date?
Tracey

Amazulu Oct 24th 2006 12:45 pm

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Originally Posted by nightnurse2
Will we be turning the clocks forward then in December?
Does anyone have the date?
Tracey

1 hour forward on 3rd December.

Ransi Oct 24th 2006 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by nightnurse2
Will we be turning the clocks forward then in December?
Does anyone have the date?
Tracey

Forward on the first

Amazulu Oct 24th 2006 12:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Ransi
Forward on the first

Sunday the third.

Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by nickyc
It's only the people who currently get up at 4.30am (or whenever the sun rises) that wouldn't be affected by any change.

Sure they would! By your reasoning, they would be exposed to one LESS hour of sunlight and therefore would have a lesser chance of getting skin cancer. A reason to bring on the DLS, I think LOL :p

Siren

nightnurse2 Oct 24th 2006 12:52 pm

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So which is it then!
The first or the third?
Am getting mightily confused, never know what day it is, now I won't know what time either :confused:
Tracey

Amazulu Oct 24th 2006 12:54 pm

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Originally Posted by nightnurse2
So which is it then!
The first or the third?
Am getting mightily confused, never know what day it is, now I won't know what time either :confused:
Tracey

3rd.

rossifumi Oct 24th 2006 1:04 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20
Apparently our dear Premier over here has said that we definitely won't be getting it, not because of the cows or the chickens, not even because god forbid our curtains and furniture will fade but because we will all get more skin cancer from having one more hour of sunshine :rolleyes:

Did I scream at the radio yesterday when I heard this. Absolutely ****in pathetic!

I had better watch that sun, if only I had a mind of my own. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

NickyC Oct 24th 2006 1:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Sure they would! By your reasoning, they would be exposed to one LESS hour of sunlight and therefore would have a lesser chance of getting skin cancer. A reason to bring on the DLS, I think LOL :p

Siren

No. People who get up at 4.30 am (when the sun rises) and go to bed at say 9.30 pm (three hours after the sun has set) already experience the full amount of daylight that is currently available.

If they continue to do this after daylight saving is introduced (when the sun will be rising at 5.30pm), they'll still continue to experience the full amount of available daylight, so are unaffected by the change. Changing the clocks will make no difference to the amount of daylight they get during their waking hours.

It's only the people who are currently missing out on daylight because they're in bed asleep that will benefit from the change.

Ransi Oct 24th 2006 1:33 pm

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Originally Posted by nightnurse2
So which is it then!
The first or the third?
Am getting mightily confused, never know what day it is, now I won't know what time either :confused:
Tracey

Im confused now too....news last night said 1st...I've tried doing a search for it now and it just says early Dec :confused:

Pollyana Oct 24th 2006 2:08 pm

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Originally Posted by rossifumi
Did I scream at the radio yesterday when I heard this. Absolutely ****in pathetic!

Yep :mad:

Originally Posted by rossifumi
I had better watch that sun, if only I had a mind of my own. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now c'mon, you've lived in Qld long enough to know you're not allowed one of those, they are dangerous :rolleyes:

rossifumi Oct 24th 2006 2:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Yep :mad:

Now c'mon, you've lived in Qld long enough to know you're not allowed one of those, they are dangerous :rolleyes:

Yes....sorry.

BadgeIsBack Oct 24th 2006 3:28 pm

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Originally Posted by nickyc

It's only the people who are currently missing out on daylight because they're in bed asleep that will benefit from the change.

Indeed - which let's be honest, is a lot of people - bar farmers (primary producers) and some tradies.

Currently, arguably a tradie can't start too early anyhow due to noise of machinery.

BadgeIsBack Oct 24th 2006 3:31 pm

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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
I always find the objection from farmers strange. Surely they set their own working hours so for 99% of the stuff they do it shouldn't matter whether DLS is in or not.

:)

All depends what their suppliers and contacts are doing at certain parts of their day I suppose.

Nomore Oct 24th 2006 3:58 pm

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can't see an extra hour making much of a difference!! anyway we all did it back in the UK so it shouldn't affect us that much.
I'm all for trying it out ;)

Siren & Brian Oct 24th 2006 4:19 pm

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Originally Posted by nickyc
No. People who get up at 4.30 am (when the sun rises) and go to bed at say 9.30 pm (three hours after the sun has set) already experience the full amount of daylight that is currently available.

If they continue to do this after daylight saving is introduced (when the sun will be rising at 5.30pm), they'll still continue to experience the full amount of available daylight, so are unaffected by the change. Changing the clocks will make no difference to the amount of daylight they get during their waking hours.

It's only the people who are currently missing out on daylight because they're in bed asleep that will benefit from the change.

Touche;) Having lived with DLS all my life, I personally prefer the extra hour of light in the evening but then.... I'm not an early riser. Those who say, go for an ocean swim or surf or a run at 5 before work might find DLS annoying.

Siren

Muzza04 Oct 24th 2006 4:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Touche;) Having lived with DLS all my life, I personally prefer the extra hour of light in the evening but then.... I'm not an early riser. Those who say, go for an ocean swim or surf or a run at 5 before work might find DLS annoying.

Siren


Golfers will be happy.....an extra 3 or 4 holes to play after work. :D

NickyC Oct 24th 2006 5:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Touche;) Having lived with DLS all my life, I personally prefer the extra hour of light in the evening but then.... I'm not an early riser. Those who say, go for an ocean swim or surf or a run at 5 before work might find DLS annoying.

Siren

Not an early riser, either - but luckily we have daylight saving here so no issue for me ;) .

I can understand both sides of the argument. I can see that Perth (and the rest of SW WA) and Brisbane (and the rest of SE QLD) would definitely benefit - it's just that the remainder of those huge states won't. There's absolutely no point whatever in Cairns or Broome, for example, having daylight saving. Logical solution would be for the southern parts of WA and QLD to have it and the rest, not - but I can't really see that happening.

MartinLuther Oct 25th 2006 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
All depends what their suppliers and contacts are doing at certain parts of their day I suppose.

I can see your point but most of them (feed suppliers, marts, wool exchanges) could also remain on farmer time. And all the farmers I know have no time to watch TV (apparently) so there's no problem there either.

Cheers
ML (farmer's son) :)


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