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Old Jul 5th 2007, 7:04 am
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We are hoping to move before the end of the year can any one give us some rough ideas for cost of living in the NSW area.

We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.

What are rough costs for
renting a house
Water bill
electricity / gas bill
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
House insurance
school fees for 4 children
average food bill
Any rough figures would be helpful. Also any other bills that would be NSW specific.


Thank you
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Originally Posted by HFamily
We are hoping to move before the end of the year can any one give us some rough ideas for cost of living in the NSW area.

We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.

What are rough costs for
renting a house
Water bill
electricity / gas bill
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
House insurance
school fees for 4 children
average food bill
Any rough figures would be helpful. Also any other bills that would be NSW specific.


Thank you
Where in NSW?

It's quite a large place.
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Originally Posted by HFamily
We are hoping to move before the end of the year can any one give us some rough ideas for cost of living in the NSW area.

We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.


What are rough costs for
renting a house
Water bill
electricity / gas bill
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
House insurance
school fees for 4 children
average food bill
Any rough figures would be helpful. Also any other bills that would be NSW specific.


Thank you
If you rent then the landlord is responsible for council tax (rates here )

School fees will depends on what visa you have, whether they go to public or private school, and which school they go to.
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What are rough costs for
renting a house >> We have rented for three years now at $720pw, $750 pw and now $370pw. It obviously depends where you are.
Water bill>> Can't say - the landlord pays the water bill here and our new build is only being occupied this week. However, we've been paying rates on the plot for 12 months during the build and the water for the last three quarters was $731 (no occupancy, just building water)
electricity / gas bill>> Last 12 months electricity $1160 and gas $571
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)>> $1599 this year
House insurance >> $1165 - just insured this week!
school fees for 4 children>> No idea
average food bill >> Roughly comparable overall, but last year I did a comparison with typical items with someone on this forum in the UK and Oz was about 11% more on the same basket. Some disagreed but I only reported as we found!

Everyone's costings are different and don't read too muc into someone else's figures.

(BTW, our numbers are for a couple, no children)
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We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.

What are rough costs for
renting a house
- check out www.domain.com.au : rental prices vary hugely by state and suburb (e.g. Mona Vale, 4 bed house - $795 pw, $1,000 pw, $1,500 pw, $1,500 pw v. Penrith $220 pw, $350 pw, $495 pw, $650 pw). Really need to decide on a suburb first and take it from there
Water bill
- sorry, can't comment
electricity / gas bill
- sorry, can't comment
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
- sorry, can't comment
House insurance
- sorry, can't comment
school fees for 4 children
- Re. School Fees, we looked at a few schools on our validation/recce visit earlier in the year. I'm sure there are specific threads on this, but in our experience, we saw prices around the following:
1st child - $1,000 p.a.
2nd child - 20% discount
3rd child - 50% discount
4th child - no charge (Catholic schools - probably explains this!)
Additional charges:
$600 p.a. per family for Building and Maintenance Levy
$675 p.a. per child Admin/School Education Fee
average food bill
- sorry, can't comment


HTH.

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Thanks to all, for the information.

The area of the office would be Wetherill Park, NSW 2164.

Looking for a family area not to far from this location.
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we saw prices around the following:

1st child - $1,000 p.a.
2nd child - 20% discount
3rd child - 50% discount
4th child - no charge (Catholic schools - probably explains this!)

funny that! Made me smile at 6am
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Originally Posted by HFamily
We are hoping to move before the end of the year can any one give us some rough ideas for cost of living in the NSW area.

We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.

What are rough costs for
renting a house
Water bill
electricity / gas bill
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
House insurance
school fees for 4 children
average food bill
Any rough figures would be helpful. Also any other bills that would be NSW specific.


Thank you
Rent for a 4-5 bed hse in Wetherill Park area approx $350-550 per wk
Water bill- n/a
Elec/gas- depends completely on your consumption but allow approx $400-600 per quarter
House insurance- varies acc to amount of contents but allow approx $1K p/a
School fees- will vary depending on which school (state, private, independent)
Av food bill- I spend approx $300 per wk and I have a family of 5
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thanks for this.

We would be looking for the children to go to state school, we can not afford private at this time.

just waiting games now.:curse:
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Originally Posted by HFamily
Thanks to all, for the information.

The area of the office would be Wetherill Park, NSW 2164.

Looking for a family area not to far from this location.
Are you sure that you want to live in this area? It's not the nicest of places.
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Are you sure that you want to live in this area? It's not the nicest of places.

This is where the office is, can you suggest an area within easy traveling distance. I have no idea what any of the areas are like, penrith, richmond,bankstown, narellen, winsdor ?

One friend did also give the same feedback as yourself.

I would prefer to be slightly out of the city, being a bit of a country bumpkin.

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This is where the office is, can you suggest an area within easy traveling distance. I have no idea what any of the areas are like, penrith, richmond,bankstown, narellen, winsdor ?

One friend did also give the same feedback as yourself.

I would prefer to be slightly out of the city, being a bit of a country bumpkin.

Thanks
To be honest, I haven't lived in Sydney for years so I haven't a clue about travelling times/road system etc....they've been updated since I lived there. There may well be parts of those suburbs that are nice, and they have probably improved over the years as professionals found that these were some of the areas that they could actually afford to buy in. I dont know Narellen at all. Parts of Penrith are rough, but I think that there are also nice parts. Bankstown, in my opinion, is PURE suburbia.....good cinema complex though. Windsor/Richmond: further out.....much longer travel times. (Or rather it used to be).

Anyone got any better advice for these folks?

Good luck with everything!
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Originally Posted by HFamily
We are hoping to move before the end of the year can any one give us some rough ideas for cost of living in the NSW area.

We are a family of 6, 4 children of school age.

What are rough costs for
renting a house
Water bill
electricity / gas bill
council tax (not sure of the term in Australia)
House insurance
school fees for 4 children
average food bill
Any rough figures would be helpful. Also any other bills that would be NSW specific.


Thank you

Living with parents-in-law currently, western subs of Brisbane.

Taking a rental at the beginning of August - $330 per week for a 3-bed plus study.

For Brisbane the water bill is rolled in with the council rates. Just had a look at MIL's for the quarter just gone, comes to $375 (was paying 400GBP per quarter previously!).

Electric - around $400 per quarter but more in the summer for aircon.

Gas - No gas

School fees - depend on school and location. We're looking at a school nearby for $6000 per annum.

Petrol - roughly half what you pay in the UK ($1.10 per litre)

Car insurance - $350 per annum for a Magna Station Wagon plus rego (& CTP) about $350 for 6 months.

Food costs - horses for courses. Eating out and other entertainments, you'll probably pay the same in dollars as you do in GBP. Weekend just gone, three kids, two adults - meal and cinema, roughly $90, wouold have been 90GBP in UK.

Hope this helps.

All the best

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Expect to get stung on school uniforms etc. You have to buy the books/pens etc and all the uniforms, and mostly at the school's prices. There's a sport and formal uniform which you wear on different school days.

$450 for our two.. and then add $100+ for the books.
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Originally Posted by HFamily
This is where the office is, can you suggest an area within easy traveling distance. I have no idea what any of the areas are like, penrith, richmond,bankstown, narellen, winsdor ?

One friend did also give the same feedback as yourself.

I would prefer to be slightly out of the city, being a bit of a country bumpkin.

Thanks
Penrith area has a mix of suburbs. Some are perfectly fine, some you might want to avoid. Richmond and Windsor ARE a long way away from most parts of Sydney. You don't really need to go that far out to get decent housing.

Narellan is another new-build area which is very reasonably-priced. It's almost the same distance away as Windsor, though.

Closer in is the Hills District (Baulkham Hills, Castle Hill, Kellyville etc). This area is well established, perfectly respectable, great for families and has a mix of brand new and older housing. And not too long a commute from Wetherell Park.
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