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macas Jan 9th 2009 7:36 am

Costs
 
Been offered a job in Melbourne. I have been told that when i start the visa process could be there in 3 months time. Wages 46,000 dollars per annum plus overtime. Problem being to achieve this we would have to get a loan to get the family to australia. Does anybody think this is worth getting into debt for taking into consideration cost of living and things seem to be the same as here. Also medical insurence and house renting to pay for. It's a massive decision to make and the move has got to be better for the 2 kids. Current thinking is the economic downturn in UK will only get worse. Where i work just paid off a load of people and there could be more to go if things don't pick, I will probably be in that list. Any help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks macas.

Wendy Jan 9th 2009 7:44 am

Re: Costs
 

Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144255)
Been offered a job in Melbourne. I have been told that when i start the visa process could be there in 3 months time. Wages 46,000 dollars per annum plus overtime. Problem being to achieve this we would have to get a loan to get the family to australia. Does anybody think this is worth getting into debt for taking into consideration cost of living and things seem to be the same as here. Also medical insurence and house renting to pay for. It's a massive decision to make and the move has got to be better for the 2 kids. Current thinking is the economic downturn in UK will only get worse. Where i work just paid off a load of people and there could be more to go if things don't pick, I will probably be in that list. Any help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks macas.


Is this a Permanent or Temporary Visa?

Grayling Jan 9th 2009 7:45 am

Re: Costs
 

Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144255)
Been offered a job in Melbourne. I have been told that when i start the visa process could be there in 3 months time. Wages 46,000 dollars per annum plus overtime. Problem being to achieve this we would have to get a loan to get the family to australia. Does anybody think this is worth getting into debt for taking into consideration cost of living and things seem to be the same as here. Also medical insurence and house renting to pay for. It's a massive decision to make and the move has got to be better for the 2 kids. Current thinking is the economic downturn in UK will only get worse. Where i work just paid off a load of people and there could be more to go if things don't pick, I will probably be in that list. Any help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks macas.

$46000 is not a particularly big salary to support a family on.

G

macas Jan 9th 2009 8:01 am

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Temporary then apply for a permanent one when we get there. I read that usually changes once your in work. I was on about that equivlent on 3 shifts in this country. Down to 1 shift now so on less.

Wendy Jan 9th 2009 8:10 am

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Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144305)
Temporary then apply for a permanent one when we get there. I read that usually changes once your in work. I was on about that equivlent on 3 shifts in this country. Down to 1 shift now so on less.

I think in your position I would ask that it is put in writing that a PR visa will be applied for once you get here - say within 6 months. I would also ask that they help you apply for Living Away From Home Allowance (LAFHA) which will boost your wages considerably until you can get assistance from Centrelink.

I am in total agreement with Grayling, $46,000 isn't a lot of money and without either LAFHA or a PR visa which would allow you to at least claim family tax benefit and/or rent assistance then I would tell them to get lost.

Even though things look bad where you are right now, at least you are familiar with things, you can get help from the Governement if needed and you have the support of family if it gets really bad - here you won't have any of that and you will more than likely struggle on that wage.

I don't want to put you off, but you should know that on that wage it will be very hard here. :)

macas Jan 9th 2009 8:25 am

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How long would a permanent residency visa take once we got there. I will e-mail them those points. That's interesting i would have not known about that. Thanks.

kporte Jan 9th 2009 8:34 am

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7144275)
$46000 is not a particularly big salary to support a family on.

G

agreed. I find myself agreeing with G a fair bit these days, which is disconcerting;)

Wendy Jan 9th 2009 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144343)
How long would a permanent residency visa take once we got there. I will e-mail them those points. That's interesting i would have not known about that. Thanks.

It depends really. Which one and which skills assessment, both these affect the processing times.

Here's some reading for you on both the 457 and LAFHA.

457's - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/

LAFHA - http://www.brainbox.com.au/brainbox/...5?opendocument


Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7144352)
agreed. I find myself agreeing with G a fair bit these days, which is disconcerting;)


It is isn't it :ohmy: :D

Pollyana Jan 9th 2009 9:00 am

Re: Costs
 

Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144255)
Been offered a job in Melbourne. I have been told that when i start the visa process could be there in 3 months time. Wages 46,000 dollars per annum plus overtime. Problem being to achieve this we would have to get a loan to get the family to australia. Does anybody think this is worth getting into debt for taking into consideration cost of living and things seem to be the same as here. Also medical insurence and house renting to pay for. It's a massive decision to make and the move has got to be better for the 2 kids. Current thinking is the economic downturn in UK will only get worse. Where i work just paid off a load of people and there could be more to go if things don't pick, I will probably be in that list. Any help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks macas.

When you say you would need a loan to get here, presumably that would be the only money you have.
You will need to pay for accommodation, including a deposit once you find a rental. You'll either have to pay for shipping or pay for new household goods. Even if your kids are in State edcation they will need uniforms, books, money for subs to everything. All the little charges add up - transport, either public or buying a car for instance?
Plus you will be paying off a loan in £s while earning $s - thats a blow to the pocket in itself (I know, I've done it)

$46k isn't a lot for a family anyway, but if you are trying to pay set-up costs as well as normal living costs, you would probably find it very very hard.

macas Jan 9th 2009 9:06 am

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The Children are only 2 and 5 weeks so school stuff is not an option. It is getting harder now th think this is a good idea.

Geelong Gent Jan 9th 2009 9:19 am

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What vocation are you in?

Be worth thinking about the possibilities outside the sponsoring company. On the basis of what happens should that employer fold/discontinue with your services? Being in Australia with 28 days too get another job or vacate - and how would you then return home?

Plenty of ways to save some money but if you are borrowing to get here too begin with how do you manage once you are here?

macas Jan 9th 2009 9:26 am

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I am a fabricator / welder (Boilermaker)

Mrs Jackaroo Jan 9th 2009 11:07 pm

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I totally agree with Polly. $46k isnt a huge salary but obviously with overtime you could probably increase that considerably. My concern though would be having to repay a loan in order to set yoursevles up, aswell as the every day living costs. My husband was on the same salary when we first moved across almost 3 years ago and things were tight thats for sure. When you first arrive you seem to be spending money hand over fist and we were lucky enough to not have any other loan outgoings etc.

Its a tough choice thats for sure! Good luck with whatever you decide!

wildmark Jan 10th 2009 12:00 am

Re: Costs
 

Originally Posted by macas (Post 7144255)
Been offered a job in Melbourne. I have been told that when i start the visa process could be there in 3 months time. Wages 46,000 dollars per annum plus overtime. Problem being to achieve this we would have to get a loan to get the family to australia. Does anybody think this is worth getting into debt for taking into consideration cost of living and things seem to be the same as here. Also medical insurence and house renting to pay for. It's a massive decision to make and the move has got to be better for the 2 kids. Current thinking is the economic downturn in UK will only get worse. Where i work just paid off a load of people and there could be more to go if things don't pick, I will probably be in that list. Any help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks macas.


Are you going to pay the loan back, I assume you will get the loan in the UK???

macas Jan 10th 2009 12:21 am

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Yes that was the idea of the thread. If we were going to be repaying a loan would we survive. I have asked about a relocation package. And we will not be going down the loan route. I will apply for a permanent residence visa and see what happens. Thanks guys.


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