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BadgeIsBack Oct 26th 2011 10:52 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 9698171)
Yes, I guess in either country you can shop around for cheaper items.
However, when you both work full time it's nice to be able to do it all under one roof.

I didn't put shampoo etc on because I got bored, it took ages to do :blink:

There's no alcohol on the shopping lists because Coles don't do it, and I deliberately left off bananas as i didn't want to skew the results :lol:

What I really want is for some clever mathematician type to give an informed view on the comparison :thumbsup:

Unless you are spending sterling, for God's sake, don't look at the fx rate;look at it as an exercise in what things cost as a portion of your income - your buying power...

Bix Oct 26th 2011 10:57 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 
Did anyone see the comparison recently of the Australian supermarkets store prices against their online prices?

It was a bit of an eye opener and I think that both Coles and Woolworths were charging more for goods purchased online.

Kapri Oct 26th 2011 10:57 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9698253)
Unless you are spending sterling, for God's sake, don't look at the fx rate;look at it as an exercise in what things cost as a portion of your income - your buying power...

Of course not.
That's why I wanted some feedback about the best way to compare. Exchange rate is clearly not a good way to do it :)

Kapri Oct 26th 2011 10:59 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 9698258)
Did anyone see the comparison recently of the Australian supermarkets store prices against their online prices?

It was a bit of an eye opener and I think that both Coles and Woolworths were charging more for goods purchased online.

I know in the Uk prices can vary according to area.
The online coles shop was using a North Brisbane post code if that helps :unsure:

koalakim Oct 26th 2011 11:20 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 
Loo paper maybe cheaper but it's not such good quality :D

Keep up the Amazon account as books are stupidly expensive here unless you can get one of the 5 for $25 deals but then they may not be books you'd choose to read! I should really try the ibooks but looking at a computer screen all day I like to read on paper at night, plus a book won't get damaged when I fall asleep reading it! Also I find a lot of the books I like aren't sold here (fluffy chick lit as that's about as much as I can concentrate on these days) so I get all those from Amazon. I miss browsing the book sections in the supermarkets.

As for the UK....well we too had a pretty good life in the UK but there were a lot of things happening to society which we weren't keen on but it's happening here now! Whatever happens in the UK we get it a few years later, there are a lot more stories in the news now about bashings, issues with society etc etc - I think all the Daily Mail journos have come out here! We just wanted to try something different.....and boy has it been different!

DeadVim Oct 26th 2011 11:27 pm

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9698167)
that you have too much time on your hands

Sometimes it pays for me to read the previous posts.

+1 ;)

It's a hell of a bus fare to the nearest Tesco so what does it matter?

GarryP Oct 27th 2011 12:22 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 9697876)
I tried to put in like-for-like using own brand where possible.

My Coles basket came to $202.75
My Tesco basket came to £91.70 although there would be a couple of BOGOF's to come off at checkout.

What do people think?

For fun I pulled your numbers into Excel, fixed it up for the major quantity differences (eg BOGOF = divide by 2, multiply price when quantities different). I also put milk in, which seemed to get lost off the Tesco column, and Bolognese sauce off the Coles column.

As a result I get:
Tesco £91.06
Coles $197.61

Converting the Tesco prices
Current Exchange rate: $136.10 31% cheaper in UK
At old assumed 2.2 rate: $195.70 1% cheaper in UK

Lining them up 1 for 1 and taking the true exchange rate we get this list of worst to best:

Code:

Sorbent Clean & Fresh Personal Toilet Wipes 40 pack    281.11%
Cabbage Drumhead Whole 1 each                          224.93%
Bertolli Classico Olive Oil 500mL                      180.00%
Onions Brown Prepacked 2kg                              176.52%
Coles Disinfectant Pine 750mL                          159.49%
Coles Bread Wholemeal Sliced 700g                      149.46%
Coles Chicken Breast Sliced Twin Pack 100g              143.79%
Riviana Basmati Rice                                    136.82%
Yoplait Go-Gurt Yogurt Tubes 70g x 8 Pack              135.70%
Coles Pasta Sauce Bolognese 500g                        124.40%
Coles sensitive fabric softener 500ml                  117.86%
Mushrooms Cup Prepacked 200g                            108.10%
Apples Royal Gala Prepacked 1kg 1 each                  104.71%
Capsicum Red loose approx. 320g each                    98.15%
Coles Mayonnaise 385g                                    96.79%
Barilla Pasta Spaghetti No. 5 500g                      80.66%
Heinz Baked Beans in Tomato Sauce 420g                  79.74%
Coles Baby Spinach Prepacked 150g                        75.07%
Coles Onions Australian Chopped Frozen 500g              73.86%
Coles Smart Buy Dishwashing Tablets 3 in 1 30 pack      72.04%
Vaalia Yoghurt Passionfruit Low Fat 4 pack              71.24%
Cucumber Green 1 each                                    61.76%
Potatoes                                                61.36%
Mandarins Kids Pack 700g                                60.13%
Coles Ultra Mould Cleaner 500mL                          58.87%
Kraft Basil & Herb Pasta Salad Dressing 300mL            53.53%
Coles Cereal Special Flakes 500g                        50.86%
Coles Butcher Sausages Pork 560g                        50.33%
Tomatoes Cherry Prepacked 250g x2                        49.02%
Coles Beef Mince 4 Star 500g                            48.54%
Coles Spread Sunflower 500g                              45.97%
Dynamo Laundry Liquid Ultra Concentrate Regular 1L      44.95%
Grapes Red Seedless approx. 800g                        36.78%
Coles Peas Australian Frozen 1kg                        35.39%
Arnott's Chocolate Biscuits Tim Tam 200g                34.64%
Continental Asian Tonight Sauce Thai Sweet Chilli 520g  30.72%
Coles Eggs Free Range 6 pack 350g                        30.72%
Potatoes Sweet Gold Prepacked 1kg                        18.76%
Coles Oats Quick Original 10 pack                        17.32%
Coles Milk Lite Bottle 3L                                12.69%
Carrots Fresh Prepacked 1kg                              7.84%
Ingham Chicken Breast Tenders Frozen 400g                7.50%
Coles Chicken Breast Fillet Skin Off 4 pack approx. 900g  6.86%
Avocado Hass 1 each                                      0.74%
Coles Garbage Bags Drawstring 20 pack                    -1.14%
Coles Foil Wrap Aluminium 10m x 30cm 1 each              -6.70%
Broccoli loose approx. 340g each                        -9.71%
Birds Eye Fish Fillets Steamed G&S Onion Frozen 360    -12.42%
Coles Smart Buy Bleach Lemon 2L                        -16.99%
Coles Peanut Butter Crunchy No Added Salt 375g          -18.99%
Coles Toilet Cleaner Gel Bleach 700mL                  -19.93%
Coles Toilet Tissue 4 Ply Print 8 pack                  -21.53%
Continental Chicken Tonight Simmer Sauce Cacciatore 500g-25.73%

I think you may find that a true comparison is confused by the non-totally equivalent items, but it's interesting to see where the really overpriced items are.

spartacus Oct 27th 2011 1:09 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9698253)
Unless you are spending sterling, for God's sake, don't look at the fx rate;look at it as an exercise in what things cost as a portion of your income - your buying power...

Save your breath mate, no-one's listening.

DeadVim Oct 27th 2011 1:09 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 9698258)
Did anyone see the comparison recently of the Australian supermarkets store prices against their online prices?

It was a bit of an eye opener and I think that both Coles and Woolworths were charging more for goods purchased online.

Yup, I heard about that, there was a thread somewhere here.

I think we even had a Coles/Woolies employee posting trying to justify it.

It's all a big ball of meh to me.

When I'm battling some as yet unknown terminal disease at some as yet unknown point in the future at least I will not look back and think 'I'm glad I did that spreadsheet grocery shopping comparison'.

I think I may take a walk, it's brightening up ...

irishbloo Oct 27th 2011 1:27 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9698383)
Yup, I heard about that, there was a thread somewhere here.

I think we even had a Coles/Woolies employee posting trying to justify it.

It's all a big ball of meh to me.

When I'm battling some as yet unknown terminal disease at some as yet unknown point in the future at least I will not look back and think 'I'm glad I did that spreadsheet grocery shopping comparison'.

I think I may take a walk, it's brightening up ...

I am resting in bed with a very sore back.Even though it hurts to laugh I just had to with your comment.:D:thumbsup:

JustBecause Oct 27th 2011 2:25 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 
If you have the time & inclination here you can deffo get better deals by going to several different places to get your groceries, esp with the help of the avalanche of junk mail from the retailers advertising what is on offer. Personally tho, & with kids, I would much prefer to go to a giant Tesco where I can get everything in one go, plus have the pharmacy on hand, the clothing & some other smaller shops right there.

In the UK I would also occasionally use market stalls for cheap fruit & veg plus local farm shops for seasonal stuff & to feel saintly that I was buying local! I do miss these options here in Oz but obviously farm shops are not going to work in the suburban sprawl. The markets here are quite good but just have a different vibe.

Turban Explorer Oct 27th 2011 2:28 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 9698348)
For fun I pulled your numbers into Excel, fixed it up for the major quantity differences (eg BOGOF = divide by 2, multiply price when quantities different). I also put milk in, which seemed to get lost off the Tesco column, and Bolognese sauce off the Coles column.

As a result I get:
Tesco £91.06
Coles $197.61

Converting the Tesco prices
Current Exchange rate: $136.10 31% cheaper in UK
At old assumed 2.2 rate: $195.70 1% cheaper in UK

Lining them up 1 for 1 and taking the true exchange rate we get this list of worst to best:

Code:

Sorbent Clean & Fresh Personal Toilet Wipes 40 pack    281.11%
Cabbage Drumhead Whole 1 each                          224.93%
Bertolli Classico Olive Oil 500mL                      180.00%
Onions Brown Prepacked 2kg                              176.52%
Coles Disinfectant Pine 750mL                          159.49%
Coles Bread Wholemeal Sliced 700g                      149.46%
Coles Chicken Breast Sliced Twin Pack 100g              143.79%
Riviana Basmati Rice                                    136.82%
Yoplait Go-Gurt Yogurt Tubes 70g x 8 Pack              135.70%
Coles Pasta Sauce Bolognese 500g                        124.40%
Coles sensitive fabric softener 500ml                  117.86%
Mushrooms Cup Prepacked 200g                            108.10%
Apples Royal Gala Prepacked 1kg 1 each                  104.71%
Capsicum Red loose approx. 320g each                    98.15%
Coles Mayonnaise 385g                                    96.79%
Barilla Pasta Spaghetti No. 5 500g                      80.66%
Heinz Baked Beans in Tomato Sauce 420g                  79.74%
Coles Baby Spinach Prepacked 150g                        75.07%
Coles Onions Australian Chopped Frozen 500g              73.86%
Coles Smart Buy Dishwashing Tablets 3 in 1 30 pack      72.04%
Vaalia Yoghurt Passionfruit Low Fat 4 pack              71.24%
Cucumber Green 1 each                                    61.76%
Potatoes                                                61.36%
Mandarins Kids Pack 700g                                60.13%
Coles Ultra Mould Cleaner 500mL                          58.87%
Kraft Basil & Herb Pasta Salad Dressing 300mL            53.53%
Coles Cereal Special Flakes 500g                        50.86%
Coles Butcher Sausages Pork 560g                        50.33%
Tomatoes Cherry Prepacked 250g x2                        49.02%
Coles Beef Mince 4 Star 500g                            48.54%
Coles Spread Sunflower 500g                              45.97%
Dynamo Laundry Liquid Ultra Concentrate Regular 1L      44.95%
Grapes Red Seedless approx. 800g                        36.78%
Coles Peas Australian Frozen 1kg                        35.39%
Arnott's Chocolate Biscuits Tim Tam 200g                34.64%
Continental Asian Tonight Sauce Thai Sweet Chilli 520g  30.72%
Coles Eggs Free Range 6 pack 350g                        30.72%
Potatoes Sweet Gold Prepacked 1kg                        18.76%
Coles Oats Quick Original 10 pack                        17.32%
Coles Milk Lite Bottle 3L                                12.69%
Carrots Fresh Prepacked 1kg                              7.84%
Ingham Chicken Breast Tenders Frozen 400g                7.50%
Coles Chicken Breast Fillet Skin Off 4 pack approx. 900g  6.86%
Avocado Hass 1 each                                      0.74%
Coles Garbage Bags Drawstring 20 pack                    -1.14%
Coles Foil Wrap Aluminium 10m x 30cm 1 each              -6.70%
Broccoli loose approx. 340g each                        -9.71%
Birds Eye Fish Fillets Steamed G&S Onion Frozen 360    -12.42%
Coles Smart Buy Bleach Lemon 2L                        -16.99%
Coles Peanut Butter Crunchy No Added Salt 375g          -18.99%
Coles Toilet Cleaner Gel Bleach 700mL                  -19.93%
Coles Toilet Tissue 4 Ply Print 8 pack                  -21.53%
Continental Chicken Tonight Simmer Sauce Cacciatore 500g-25.73%

I i think you may find that a true comparison is confused by the non-totally equivalent items, but it's interesting to see where the really overpriced items
are.

Have you added the 'gone off/moldy/tastes like shit' weighting to Coles' fruit 'n' veg?

Moreover, shouldn't we use the 90 day moving average over the last 2
decades factoring in a standard deviation for regional hub pricing measurements. I'm in my white coat busy correlating the data on two whirring mainframes.

Amazulu Oct 27th 2011 2:34 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by JustBecause (Post 9698447)
If you have the time & inclination here you can deffo get better deals by going to several different places to get your groceries, esp with the help of the avalanche of junk mail from the retailers advertising what is on offer. Personally tho, & with kids, I would much prefer to go to a giant Tesco where I can get everything in one go, plus have the pharmacy on hand, the clothing & some other smaller shops right there.

In the UK I would also occasionally use market stalls for cheap fruit & veg plus local farm shops for seasonal stuff & to feel saintly that I was buying local! I do miss these options here in Oz but obviously farm shops are not going to work in the suburban sprawl. The markets here are quite good but just have a different vibe.

There are farm shops (markets selling local produce) here in Perth. I'd be surprised if this was not the case in Sydney.

JustBecause Oct 27th 2011 2:41 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9698460)
There are farm shops (markets selling local produce) here in Perth. I'd be surprised if this was not the case in Sydney.

Well, there aren't any farms. I think the retailers come up from the coast or down from the mountains but it's not on the farm itself, with a nice tea room as well!! I was probably a bit spoilt at our last location in the UK as it was in Berks so semi-rural with twee farm shops everywhere.

DeadVim Oct 27th 2011 2:44 am

Re: Coles vs Tesco - I have done online shops
 

Originally Posted by irishbloo (Post 9698398)
I am resting in bed with a very sore back.Even though it hurts to laugh I just had to with your comment.:D:thumbsup:

:D It's quite nice out ... very mild in comparison to recent days.

I would try to plan my grocery budget to the nearest 5% but I just know there would be something bigger and entirely unexpected arriving that would knock it all into a cocked-hat.

Life is like that.

Hope the back is better soon :)


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